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BitYakin -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/10/2014 11:23:12 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
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Those are steel frame with brick veneer.
What part of 17 years as a Re broker in 2 states looking inside hundreds if not thousands of homes did you not read?
Solid masonry homes are problematic when it comes to running utilities. I had one in Miami.
That is why most site built homes and all manufactured homes (about 20 to 25% of the new sales in the US) are wood based.
I didn't even notice the last two lines of your post the first two tickled me so much, but I'll address them now
are you saying wood frame houses do not have a solid masonry foundation? cinder bock, concrete and in older houses lime stone stones? if you contend they are not then what are their foundations? they just lay the beams in the dirt? make some kind of WOODEN foundation?
I have never anyplace seen such a thing
and here is WHY I bring this up, you say its problematic regarding utilities, but utilities enter a house threw the foundation 99% of the time, so it has ZERO bearing on what the house it made of...
the REASON most houses are made of wood is because wood is cheaper and the labor is less skilled and again CHEAPER and its FASTER again a money saver
in other words wood is NOW preferable cause houses made today are cheap and inferior
lil story, when I was working building townhomes in the Denver Colorado area we were required to test our water lines with 100 lbs of air pressure, we'd roll a small 120 volt compressor in and start it up, no matter where you were in the WHOLE BUILDING you could feel the viberation of it running
talk about JUNK PILES! I commented if they gave me one instead of pay I'd put it up for sale the next day!
maybe I misunderstood what you meant by solid masonry buildings being problematic regarding utilities, please clarify HOW SO?
I have been involved with the total gut rehab of aprox a dozen solid brick homes over the past couple years, and I didn't have a problem running my drains or water lines, and I didn't hear the heating cooling guy bitching nor the electricians
I have replaced the main waterline from the street to inside the house maybe 100 times, every time threw a masonry foundation, only once do I remember a problem, we had to bore under a garage where they had filled under it with 1" minus gravel and the bore was a BITCH, the gravel kept throwing the bore of our mark.
cause the boring bit to want to walk off up or down or to one side or the other
99% of the time we do a core hole saw in the foundation, dig a hole at the meter/tee head and use a water auger to bore a hole between them, connect copper to the boring rod and pull it back threw the hole and connect the ends
1/2 day job most times...
when I first started doing them we charged bout 600 bucks now days it runs bout 2 grand...
please don't preach your expertise to me, I have been involved in rehabs and remodels of 100 year old homes, been involved in new construction of town houses in Colorado and the building of a 13 story Marriot residence inn in SA Texas
you'll NEVER guess what the walls of that 13 story Marriot was made of, hell I'll tell ya, freaking Styrofoam, that's right 2" thick styrofoam with a cement paste smeared on it, I could cut threw it with a decent hunting knife
now THAT'S a veneer!
I can do a rolled lead joint, and wipe a lead cup joint, lead caulk cast iron pipe, work with copper, iron or plastic waterline systems
I can plan a drain waste and vent system and complete potable water system and price the material cost to within a 100 dollars in my head (in my area, cost/codes vary from area to area)
feel free to quiz me...
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