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I like CBT but I'm a lesbian! - 11/24/2014 11:55:02 PM   
merrybee


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I have a pretty puzzling contradiction in my kinks. Normally, I'm submissive and I fantasize about being spanked (by women). However, when I go to watch porn at times I tend to gravitate towards cbt and chastity videos involving men. I love the way they look in those cock cages. However, in real life I have no interest in men and I find the idea of intercourse with a man offputting.

I'm very unsure about my sexuality, first of all because I'm attracted to women- there's no question about that and look at them with a much less critical eye, and secondly because it seems like I'm attracted to men when they're submissive and in a completely one sided way. For example I'd be pretty into doing cbt with a man and playing with him, even fucking him with a strap on but I wouldn't want him to touch me or reciprocate.

Also, I tend to be very selectively attracted to men. I don't want male attention directed at me, in fact when men hit on me I get very nervous. I'd definitely be the one who would have to make the first move. I have a tendency to like men who have small penises (I think they're REALLY cute) and are a bit more on the androgynous side. Unfortunately most men that look like that seem to be gay. (dang)

I guess this isn't really a question, but I'd like to know if there are any other gals at there who feel like I do and how you tend to label yourselves. Keep in mind, I'm only 21 and I consider my sexuality and gender identity a work in progress.

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RE: I like CBT but I'm a lesbian! - 11/25/2014 12:42:31 AM   
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Your first post! Welcome to the forums!

With that out of the way - relax. Your problem does not exist. You're experimenting and seeing what you like. You seem to be settling comfortably into being a somewhat-bi switch that is sub to women and Domme to men, and you like men that are femme-ish.

Your only "issue" is that the labels are not quite up to describing you. That's the label's fault, not yours. Enjoy.



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RE: I like CBT but I'm a lesbian! - 11/25/2014 1:43:35 AM   
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The interesting thing about porn that I was reading a few days ago was the premise that watching porn in the studies of men with this indulgence had a strong correlation to erectile dysfunction. The reason this phenomenon occurred the researchers concluded was due to needing a more intense arousal over time. The men in the study were observed carrying out their usual practices of watching porn. Those men who masturbated to the porn were more inclined, over time, to find themselves watching porn outside of the realm of their preferences for sex in real life. Researchers also observed that frequency to which those men who required masturbation while observing porn developed an aversion to real life sexual intercourse and/or were unable to perform real sex to completion or exhibited total impotence in real life over time.

They qualified these observations by monitoring the pituitary glands of the brain which are responsible for releasing the hormones for arousal and copulation. The findings revealed that the aforementioned men's dependency on porn increased the requirement for stimulation to the point that visuals that individuals would never indulge in for real life had more arousing effect if the gender and sex act were taboo to the viewers normal experience. In extreme cases, even gender became less desirable to the more taboo bestiality.

Of course these are extremes and what one prefers in the visual or the mind can very well differ from the real sexual experience that we are willing to engage in the physical form. I am sure some will confess to what appears to be a contradiction to their sexual preference with some embarrassment or confusion. However, it may very well be quite explainable by the chemicals released in the brain.

I watched porn while experiencing a drought in the women that I desired to have sex with. Masturbation eventually joined the porn watching experience until it became less satiating to cum from viewing heterosexual porn. As my porn viewing developed for other tastes in porn genre it progressed like this: lesbian, Domme, Queening, Strapon, Shemale, Shemale Domme, male bondage and male rape, and then caning (no gender required, no sex required). If I would have allowed these development to progress even further it was definitely headed to cock torture, forced catheter insertions while tied up. I actually did porn searches for this progression. As the genre got further from my real life experiences, the introduction to a newer more taboo porn genre would produce the most intense ejaculations and required less time in which to complete the masturbation. I realized not that my preferences were changing but that I had more free time to complete other real life tasks, like drinking, the more I indulged this methodology. I willfully would override my aversions and hard limits of genre to get the job done quicker and more intensely.

The trouble with this pattern that I indulge is that I was inadvertently reducing my libido, stamina and need for real touch. Of course none of this applies to you, but I am wondering if the explanation of what one thinks does not necessarily have to be harmonious to what one does. In addition, I have a small penis That may be more relevant to one aspect of your odd attractions. I prefer lesbian or bi women to heterosexual women. I think it speaks to my perceptions of inadequacy and what would be more suitable. What would be a better fit. My desire to top a female has diminished as well. What's the use? I am just making some confessions rather than similar comparisons. Your fantasies may have nothing to do with convenience or inadequacy. This is just another perspective before people come in here and tell you that you are confused or in denial. I think we have fantasies for reasons that allow us to be other than what we can experience in real life -or why else would we need fantasy if it mirrored real life. Some do have more extremes than others in fantasy, but I think we all experience some small degree of taboo satiation or reward to enhance arousal.

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RE: I like CBT but I'm a lesbian! - 11/25/2014 5:27:16 PM   
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Welcome to the forums. I can't relate to your experience but I know that you aren't alone if that helps. Good luck finding where you fit.


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RE: I like CBT but I'm a lesbian! - 11/26/2014 11:53:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: merrybee
I have a pretty puzzling contradiction in my kinks. Normally, I'm submissive and I fantasize about being spanked (by women). However, when I go to watch porn at times I tend to gravitate towards cbt and chastity videos involving men. I love the way they look in those cock cages. However, in real life I have no interest in men and I find the idea of intercourse with a man offputting.

If we tweak the genders a bit, this situation is extremely common. The vast majority of dominant women in the scene have a primary male partner with whom they are vanilla or submissive. They then recruit a secondary partner, or a stable of partners, who are submissive to them. Maybe that is due to a biological drive of a woman to feel safe and protected at home; maybe it's due to social programming; maybe both. Whatever the reason, it's very similar to the fact that women almost always date, and marry, sideways or up, economically.

You like being sub in a personal, romantic relationship, but you like power over male sexuality in a non-romantic relationship. No reason you can't do both. But also, you might find that there's a particular person you're willing to make an exception for, because you love them so much -- a woman you want to dom, or a man you decide to be romantic with. That's the exciting thing about moving fantasies into the real world.

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RE: I like CBT but I'm a lesbian! - 11/26/2014 8:28:31 PM   
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From my perspective, as noted in plum red:
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

The vast majority of dominant women in the scene have a primary male partner with whom they are vanilla or submissive.

Straight (unprofessional) lifestyle Dommes have a primary male partner with whom they are both vanilla and Dominant.
(What you are referring to, Red, is more applicable to BDSM Top providers who may not be Dominant women and be more of a S/switch to begin with.)


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They then recruit a secondary partner, or a stable of partners, who are submissive to them.

They may recruit a secondary partner, or a stable of partners, who are submissive to them, either as non-sexual service subs or to fill a sexual and/or BDSM need that their primary partner does not provide (much more common when the lifestyle Domme is bisexual).
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You like being sub in a personal, romantic relationship, but you like power over male sexuality in a non-romantic relationship. No reason you can't do both. But also, you might find that there's a particular person you're willing to make an exception for, because you love them so much -- a woman you want to dom, or a man you decide to be romantic with. That's the exciting thing about moving fantasies into the real world.

Being as young as you are OP, the sky is the limit, as long as you don't box yourself in.

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Whatever the reason, it's very similar to the fact that women almost always date, and marry, sideways or up, economically.

With arranged marriages, yes. However, I have heard of women who have either gotten themselves disowned, disinherited, looked down upon, or become the female relative we don't discuss at family gatherings. Also war changes things. During wartime, these conventionalities no longer apply.

Example 1 - My ex-husband's paternal grandmother was an heir to the Gillette fortune. She fell in love with and eloped with a "common" working man, his paternal grandfather. She was disinherited as a result and lived to regret her rash actions. At a very young age, their three children were raised in foster homes the rest of their childhood lives.

Example 2 - A niece of mine met a man on the Internet, back when that sort of thing was frowned upon. She ran off to be with this man in another part of the country, who had basically nothing, leaving her two small preschool-age daughters with relatives. She never returned to reclaim her abandoned children, and went on to have a baby with this man and ended up on welfare. She was disowned by her father, a brother-in-law of mine, and I have no further news.

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RE: I like CBT but I'm a lesbian! - 11/27/2014 11:23:25 AM   
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There are other drives for topping and bottoming than the sexual. I know straight women who will top other women. Straight men who will top other men. Gay men who will top women. They just enjoy topping.

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RE: I like CBT but I'm a lesbian! - 12/14/2014 1:09:59 AM   
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Wow, i have been into self CBT my whole life, and that i was lucky enough to find two Dommes i could give my cock and balls too for Their evil but appreciated abuse.

It would be a perfect relationship to have a Lesbian Friend or two that were into CBT so we all could get what we want and Need.

i truly loved experiencing the pains for Their fun and pleasure, and i know loved it too.

So, how could it be a bad thing if everyone wins.

They may not have been Lesbians, but I did not have sex with Them.


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RE: I like CBT but I'm a lesbian! - 12/14/2014 9:39:25 AM   
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I'm with DarkSteven... I don't think you have as much of a problem as you might think. I don't imagine it would be all that difficult to find a gay man who would enjoy being pegged and have his cock and balls tortured by a friendgirl who wants nothing in return. Play on!!!

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