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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 6:08:23 PM

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No. Most these places don't offer salad bars, it's the salads they make only. Though I suppose you could ask for just plain lettuce and cheese an stuff.

If you go like, "I got a dietary requirement, can I just have a salad with lettuce and grilled chicken?" Something like that. I think most places can make it happen. I don't know, over here, if the kitchen got the ingredients, they can make it.

If you can choose to have low fat protein instead of cheese as your salad accompaniment, it would seriously be better. I eat cheese, but I eat it like, once a month max. No Asian food has cheese. And sometimes I go for months without cheese at all. I realise one of the things why Asian people are generally so small is most traditional ones do not even like the taste of cheese, and that's completely omitted from their diet. But I grew to love cheese, so I can't resist and will indulge occasionally. Put me in a cheese buffet with cheeses from all over the world and I would go crazy and on cheese bingeing! But really needs to be something taken in moderation.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 6:11:36 PM

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Buying your own food and making things yourself LGH- is cheaper in the long run.

Just so you know, also, Ruby Tuesday, Pizza Hut, Subway are all places that let you design your own salad. I can name more too. Saladworks isn't nationwide yet, I don't believe- but they rock my socks.

I want a saladworks salad right now.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 6:19:33 PM

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What's the view here on poly saturated fat versus saturated fat, now that most poly saturated products have newly discovered to also contain trans fat that is worst than saturated fat?

Over here, there is a trend to dump polysaturated fat and go back to saturated. Good old animal lard, for health reasons.

That is one issue I am confuse about. It's almost like, all margarine and vegetable oils are evil now.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 8:06:07 PM

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I read about them, and some of their about us and what happens at meetings seriously rub me wrong. Like opening the meeting with serenity prayer.

The 12 steps for example,

We admitted we were powerless over food — that our lives had become unmanageable

Um, no I am not powerless over food, no my life is not unmanagable, and if it was, it's not cuz food.

Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

Uh, no, I haven't. I don't believe in a higher power of any kind.

Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him

Uh no. I don't even believve in God.

Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

Again, I don't believe in god

Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character

Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings

Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out

"Barf, gag me with a spoon"

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I have heard Overeaters Anonymous is an effective 12 step group and also offers fellowship which might be very helpful for you.

Look them up.

They should be everywhere, there must be a group close to you. If you can't get to it, someone can probably pick you up if you can call their office.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 8:09:21 PM

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I read about them, and some of their about us and what happens at meetings seriously rub me wrong.

We admitted we were powerless over food — that our lives had become unmanageable

Um, no I am not powerless over food, no my life is not unmanagable, and if it was, it's not cuz food.
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

I have heard Overeaters Anonymous is an effective 12 step group and also offers fellowship which might be very helpful for you.

Look them up.

They should be everywhere, there must be a group close to you. If you can't get to it, someone can probably pick you up if you can call their office.

I considered joining them...BUT they are very religious...and that is just not my game. However, if you're throwing around addiction...then that implies powerless...a NEED for food. You know?

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 8:29:04 PM

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ok, true, Yes, I crave this shit like crazy, yes I obsess about food, yes I have an inappropriate bond to food, I use it as a treat, it's a reward and it makes me happy. But the word powerless, I dunno it rubs wrong. It feels like to me, like you're just gonna lay down and accept it. That I can't fight the feelings. And if my life is out of control, it's because I am, at this point unable to take care of myself due to mental issues, not food.

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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

I read about them, and some of their about us and what happens at meetings seriously rub me wrong.

We admitted we were powerless over food — that our lives had become unmanageable

Um, no I am not powerless over food, no my life is not unmanagable, and if it was, it's not cuz food.
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

I have heard Overeaters Anonymous is an effective 12 step group and also offers fellowship which might be very helpful for you.

Look them up.

They should be everywhere, there must be a group close to you. If you can't get to it, someone can probably pick you up if you can call their office.

I considered joining them...BUT they are very religious...and that is just not my game. However, if you're throwing around addiction...then that implies powerless...a NEED for food. You know?

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 8:49:40 PM

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I read about them, and some of their about us and what happens at meetings seriously rub me wrong. Like opening the meeting with serenity prayer.

Geez!!! It's religious!! I would be out of there within the first serenity prayer! Ha!

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We admitted we were powerless over food — that our lives had become unmanageable

Okay, I understand this part IF the person was still in denial about having an over eating problem but if a person already acknowledges that and need help to fix this disorder, how does continuance of thinking that we are powerless over food help?

I agree LGH, that is not a helpful group to join at all unless you believe in the "greater power".

For me, every time when I think about having to give up food or moderate the amounts of it, I just turn to exercising more! For you LGH, maybe if you can find something you enjoy, like do you like dancing? A Zumba workout youtube video to follow might be fun. I personally hate dancing, but I have girlfriends who uses dancing to lose weight as they love to dance. For me I hit plateau very easily as I've been athlete all my life but for those who never works out, I find that, just a little exercise, just dancing or walking everyday, just getting a little more physical activity into your life, really helps move those pounds down real fast. On top of that, for diabetic, it would really make a difference too and improve blood sugar levels. But you got to find something fun or it would be torture.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 8:59:48 PM

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I like just dance, a video game. It's easy and very fun(to me)

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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

I read about them, and some of their about us and what happens at meetings seriously rub me wrong. Like opening the meeting with serenity prayer.

Geez!!! It's religious!! I would be out of there within the first serenity prayer! Ha!

quote:

We admitted we were powerless over food — that our lives had become unmanageable

Okay, I understand this part IF the person was still in denial about having an over eating problem but if a person already acknowledges that and need help to fix this disorder, how does continuance of thinking that we are powerless over food help?

I agree LGH, that is not a helpful group to join at all unless you believe in the "greater power".

For me, every time when I think about having to give up food or moderate the amounts of it, I just turn to exercising more! For you LGH, maybe if you can find something you enjoy, like do you like dancing? A Zumba workout youtube video to follow might be fun. I personally hate dancing, but I have girlfriends who uses dancing to lose weight as they love to dance. For me I hit plateau very easily as I've been athlete all my life but for those who never works out, I find that, just a little exercise, just dancing or walking everyday, just getting a little more physical activity into your life, really helps move those pounds down real fast. On top of that, for diabetic, it would really make a difference too and improve blood sugar levels. But you got to find something fun or it would be torture.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 9:00:33 PM

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Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character
Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings

lololololol, sorry, this brings back old memories, I came from a Christian school. And every freaking morning, while we were standing and roasting in the hot sun without shade, like 32 degrees to us, 89 degrees to Americans, but it's the mantra every morning, to remove defects of our characters. And the morning prayer would go on forever!!! About how sinful we were, and how we need forgiveness!
Oh man! I am so glad I am out of that crap!

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 9:02:22 PM

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I like just dance, a video game. It's easy and very fun(to me)

Is that the one you physically dance to tap on all mat on the floor? If that is the one, keep doing that, every day or twice a day if you can! Don't even think about weight, I think your heart will get stronger and your health will get so much better.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 9:10:25 PM

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No, that's dance dance revolution, just Dance, you follow the moves of the dancer on the screen, and the better you follow the moves, the higher the score you get. Some of the songs are really funny, like cotton eyed Joe, and who let the dog's out. You can really get into it and forget it's exertion!

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I like just dance, a video game. It's easy and very fun(to me)

Is that the one you physically dance to tap on all mat on the floor? If that is the one, keep doing that, every day or twice a day if you can! Don't even think about weight, I think your heart will get stronger and your health will get so much better.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 9:35:55 PM

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No, that's dance dance revolution, just Dance, you follow the moves of the dancer on the screen, and the better you follow the moves, the higher the score you get. Some of the songs are really funny, like cotton eyed Joe, and who let the dog's out. You can really get into it and forget it's exertion!

As long as it makes you physically dance, it's a damn good game to keep playing!! You can even start like a clique of friends, go on the internet to form your own group to play this with. Keeps the motivation up to keep doing it.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/3/2014 9:51:55 PM

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Oooooh

5 cucumbers for a dollar, brocolie heads for 88 cents a pound, apples 49 cents a pound, oranges 3 for 99 cents. I onow what we are doing tomorrow!

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/4/2014 2:20:43 PM

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I went shopping!5 huge cucumbers, they were just a dollar, 5 huge heads of broccoli, each one having about 5 heads each,6 avocados, 3 red huge bell peppers, a huge stock of celery, 4 apples, a bag of cuties, a bag of carrots. And a case of water.

And , I wento to a store that price matched, so I got the hot dogs and balogney for daddy for 88 cents a piece instead of 1.85

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/5/2014 4:47:37 AM

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I haven't read the entire thread and this is probably no longer relevant. Still, I'm going to say this. Once upon a time, quite a long time ago, I ate a lot of fast food. About 6 years ago, I started wanting to get healthier. It has been a process. A long term, going on 5 years now process. First, I started out making my portions smaller. No more super sizing anything. Then I started ordering ONLY from the value menu. Then I gave up soda and would ask for a water cup. Then I read somewhere about how disgusting the food processing was and all the crap in the fast food that wasn't even food and I quit eating there all together (except extremely rare under duress times.) The few times in the last 2 years that I've had fast food, I absolutely found it disgusting. Your tastes change, if you let them.

I've lost over 50 pounds. In the last 7 months I've been able to ride my bike or walk a total of 750 miles. Yesterday I joined a fitness club for the first time. It has all taken time, and it has been a process. I say this to encourage, not to brag. Although I am proud of what I've accomplished and not above bragging. Finally, all that to say; find simple ways to improve your situation that are doable for you, then as you find yourself doing those new ways out of habit, build on your success with another simple and doable change.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/5/2014 10:06:32 AM

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/5/2014 10:30:39 AM

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For me, every time when I think about having to give up food or moderate the amounts of it, I just turn to exercising more! For you LGH, maybe if you can find something you enjoy, like do you like dancing? A Zumba workout youtube video to follow might be fun.

Good advice... I just had a thought...ounch!!! When I quit smoking I needed an incentive to help me not pick up that butt. I figured how much I would save by not buying cigs and went out and bought on time a toy...at the time it was a calculator...lol I am dating myself... But back then they were new as Iphone 6's and expensive. Playing with it helped keep my mind off of smoking and I told myself if I went back top smoking I would give up the toy... It worked!

So maybe you could decide to knock 50$ a month off the food bill...and spend that money on something to occupy your time and stave off the hunger.

Sorry directed at LittleGirlHeart

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/5/2014 6:35:55 PM

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Yes. Apply that money to fresh snacks and such, or something fun like a trip!

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Good advice... I just had a thought...ounch!!! When I quit smoking I needed an incentive to help me not pick up that butt. I figured how much I would save by not buying cigs and went out and bought on time a toy...at the time it was a calculator...lol I am dating myself... But back then they were new as Iphone 6's and expensive. Playing with it helped keep my mind off of smoking and I told myself if I went back top smoking I would give up the toy... It worked!

So maybe you could decide to knock 50$ a month off the food bill...and spend that money on something to occupy your time and stave off the hunger.

Sorry directed at LittleGirlHeart

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/6/2014 7:52:20 PM

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I haven't read the entire thread and this is probably no longer relevant. Still, I'm going to say this. Once upon a time, quite a long time ago, I ate a lot of fast food. About 6 years ago, I started wanting to get healthier. It has been a process. A long term, going on 5 years now process. First, I started out making my portions smaller. No more super sizing anything. Then I started ordering ONLY from the value menu. Then I gave up soda and would ask for a water cup. Then I read somewhere about how disgusting the food processing was and all the crap in the fast food that wasn't even food and I quit eating there all together (except extremely rare under duress times.) The few times in the last 2 years that I've had fast food, I absolutely found it disgusting. Your tastes change, if you let them.

I've lost over 50 pounds. In the last 7 months I've been able to ride my bike or walk a total of 750 miles. Yesterday I joined a fitness club for the first time. It has all taken time, and it has been a process. I say this to encourage, not to brag. Although I am proud of what I've accomplished and not above bragging. Finally, all that to say; find simple ways to improve your situation that are doable for you, then as you find yourself doing those new ways out of habit, build on your success with another simple and doable change.

^ This!

It is a process. I had a very similar experience to WinsomeDefiance. It started almost three years ago and it started with small changes. Then the changes became bigger and now I can't imagine eating any other way. I lost over 40lbs. Once that happened I looked at my goals and made the appropriate changes. I stopped staring at the scale and started looking at my body and the changes to my body.

I don't think there is any quick fix and fads and diets probably won't work. If you can't keep them up in the long run then it simply doesn't make sense to be on them. I never say I can't have something I like or want. I did for awhile and it was a big fat fail. I ended up binging more than anything. I just try to limit what I have and how many days I have it. I can honestly say that for the first time in my life I have found a happy balance with what I'm eating that I am no longer constantly craving sugar. All those fast foods, greasy foods, and unhealthy foods that I used to eat literally make me sick.

Also for me it isn't just how I eat, but how I move my body. Specifically how I workout.

Start with something small. The thing is, if you never try you will never succeed.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/6/2014 7:58:34 PM

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at the time it was a calculator...lol I am dating myself... But back then they were new as Iphone 6's and expensive.

LOL indeed!

I still remember when my grandfather got a calculator. It was as wide as a dessert plate and at least an inch think. The keys were huge. And it plugged in! Still, we admired and coveted it.

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