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Bhruic -> RE: com·mu·ni·ca·tion: An Improved Definition (Thoughts On Communication, Part I) (12/5/2014 1:27:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I am very clear in my communications with a partner.

If they fail to understand, it their inability to want to understand or they purposely act dense because the topic is not to their liking.


I can't see the world like this. I rarely assume that someone WANTS to misunderstand me or act dense. If I were to assume that, they would not be a partner.

Then, As the dominant, I feel it is my responsibility to not only be clear, but to make sure things get done the way I see fit, because it is the best choice (in my view) for me, my partner, and our relationship.



I can see this happening though... and not maliciously. Sometimes a sub will not want to disappoint by indicating that they either do not understand, or that something does not particularly appeal, or that - willing - they would still find something hard to bring themselves to do... so they don't communicate that.

Surely it is the Dominant's responsibility to address these issues once they become apparent, and ensure that their instructions are understood and carried out... But at the point of communication (or lack thereof) it may not always be clear what is happening.

I find this frustrating when it happens, but I realize it is largely up to me, as the Dominant, to find ways to address and resolve such communication problems... but it is also her responsibility, as the sub, to have the courage - and confidence in our relationship - to speak up.




GoddessManko -> RE: com·mu·ni·ca·tion: An Improved Definition (Thoughts On Communication, Part I) (12/5/2014 1:39:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

You know who I LOVE to watch? Evangelicals on TV. They are amazing, master manipulators.

Of course, they target their audience carefully. What they do with words is nothing short of miracles, for sure. *smiles*


Pandering to someone I can do with little effort, might be part of my issue, I refuse to, LOL! If I did I would be in San Fran right now married to a Saudi and attending charity events like the demure stepford wife. But it would be extremely painful for me unfortunately. I'm all about authenticity.




BecomingV -> RE: com·mu·ni·ca·tion: An Improved Definition (Thoughts On Communication, Part I) (12/5/2014 1:47:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

Did I understand your question and answer it?

I noticed I was following my pattern, after writing my answer, so illustrated it in this color and italic style. *smiles*



Thank you! Yes, you did. [:)]

Sorry about your divorce horror and congratulations on pulling benefits out of the crisis. :) And, yes, creative visualization is a whole lot easier than that!




Kaliko -> RE: com·mu·ni·ca·tion: An Improved Definition (Thoughts On Communication, Part I) (12/5/2014 2:27:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Bhruic

All too often I will think that I am communicating effectively with my partner, only to realize later, when appropriate feedback is evidently lacking, that I was really only talking. The information was not being absorbed, and so no actual communication ended up taking place.



I have done that and have even gone a step further and taken his silence to be tacit approval. Ha. That was a mistake.


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

However, sometimes people simply have incompatible communication styles. For example, The Man likes to explain things fully and have me ask questions afterward. However, unless I can take notes, I'm not going to remember all the questions. So his choice is between hearing himself think out loud or allowing me to ask questions as he goes. Because that's my style. And for me to understand, I need to clear as I go.



I have learned that when I tell stories, I feel compelled to provide a whole bunch of back story before I even get to the story and apparently, it's not necessary. I've been told this by multiple people, so I do try to watch it. (In fact even when posting here, I will usually delete about 2/3 of what I originally write before I post.) It's like I have this weird compulsion to cover, up-front, any piece of the story that could possibly leave the other party having to follow up about. I just don't know how to talk any other way. That's my communication style. But sometimes I think I confuse (and annoy) people with too much extra information.




DesFIP -> RE: com·mu·ni·ca·tion: An Improved Definition (Thoughts On Communication, Part I) (12/5/2014 2:42:01 PM)

I do that also, and yes, other people find it confusing.

Oddly enough, the one place this is a good thing is online. Because it eliminates the op adding another post three pages in that changes their original question. Since frequently, people don't have time to read every post before responding.

I would like to give a funny example of miscommunication though.
Some years ago the Phillies made it to the playoffs. The Man was out of town and couldn't get the game. He asked me to record it. I responded that I couldn't because the house was dark that night. He took that to mean that the game was blacked out in our area, not understanding the theater term I had used.




GoddessManko -> RE: com·mu·ni·ca·tion: An Improved Definition (Thoughts On Communication, Part I) (12/5/2014 3:30:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

I have learned that when I tell stories, I feel compelled to provide a whole bunch of back story before I even get to the story and apparently, it's not necessary. I've been told this by multiple people, so I do try to watch it. (In fact even when posting here, I will usually delete about 2/3 of what I originally write before I post.) It's like I have this weird compulsion to cover, up-front, any piece of the story that could possibly leave the other party having to follow up about. I just don't know how to talk any other way. That's my communication style. But sometimes I think I confuse (and annoy) people with too much extra information.


I'm sort of the same way at times. In fact, it's pretty bad. I only realize afterward I might be taken as being facetious. I have those moments more often than I'd like, especially lately. I speak very "matter of factedly" sometimes. Also sadism doesn't help, without a really good outlet, it creeps into places I don't want it to.




NookieNotes -> RE: com·mu·ni·ca·tion: An Improved Definition (Thoughts On Communication, Part I) (12/5/2014 10:49:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Bhruic

Surely it is the Dominant's responsibility to address these issues once they become apparent, and ensure that their instructions are understood and carried out... But at the point of communication (or lack thereof) it may not always be clear what is happening.

I find this frustrating when it happens, but I realize it is largely up to me, as the Dominant, to find ways to address and resolve such communication problems... but it is also her responsibility, as the sub, to have the courage - and confidence in our relationship - to speak up.


Agreed.

I also see it as my responsibility as the dominant to find out what would make the s feel comfortable and secure bringing it up next time.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

Pandering to someone I can do with little effort, might be part of my issue, I refuse to, LOL! If I did I would be in San Fran right now married to a Saudi and attending charity events like the demure stepford wife. But it would be extremely painful for me unfortunately. I'm all about authenticity.


LOL! Oh, I agree. Not my thing. Still fascinating to watch the skill.


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ORIGINAL: BecomingV


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

Did I understand your question and answer it?

I noticed I was following my pattern, after writing my answer, so illustrated it in this color and italic style. *smiles*



Thank you! Yes, you did. [:)]

Sorry about your divorce horror and congratulations on pulling benefits out of the crisis. :) And, yes, creative visualization is a whole lot easier than that!


Thank you. It made me a better person. Truly.

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

I have learned that when I tell stories, I feel compelled to provide a whole bunch of back story before I even get to the story and apparently, it's not necessary. I've been told this by multiple people, so I do try to watch it. (In fact even when posting here, I will usually delete about 2/3 of what I originally write before I post.) It's like I have this weird compulsion to cover, up-front, any piece of the story that could possibly leave the other party having to follow up about. I just don't know how to talk any other way. That's my communication style. But sometimes I think I confuse (and annoy) people with too much extra information.


I used to do that quite a lot.




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