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yc1984 -> difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 8:36:28 AM)

Recently I met a Mistress online who is not asking for tribute, and she is only two hours away from me, she is in her 38 living with her 14-year-old girl, and she is a single mum. She said that she was born to be dominant and really enjoys all these kinky thing so much. At first I didn't believe but after weeks of intense online conversation and phone chat we have a thorough understanding towards each other and she is so real. She was not good-looking but I can feel that she is a real dominant woman, she could read me, we can feel each other, instead of pretending or scam. Last week we met in a coffee shop near her and after some jokes and laugh I went to her home nearby and she started her training with me. She said that I could stay in her home for three days before her daughter's back from the school at the weekend. I didn't even believe my eye and I don't believe what was happening. I am 30-year-old submissive male who has looked for real female dom for many years and finally met my first one. There were some chains and lots of padlocks, collars, fist mitt, and tails in her flat. I didn't believe that but the only explanation may be that she was really not a good-looking woman, at first I was also hesitated about her invitation to her home for a 3-day training but I decided I should give it a try. It was amazing, it was the first time in my life that I experienced a dog slave and serve a female as a slave. She had my hands locked in the fist mitt, collared, leashed and have my collar chained to the ring as I sleep on the hard floor during the night and she went to bed. because of excitement and discomfort on the floor I could hardly sleep on the first night, in the very early morning I was awoken from restless sleep by the stirring of my mistress and at that time I couldn't sleep again on the hard floor. I didn't feel it fun anymore and I desperately wanted to get back to my soft bed, but I knew I couldn't give up at that point, she then fed me on a dog bowl with a cold boiled egg prepared the night before, it had a slight unpleasant smell but she ruffled my head saying it was cooked last night but kept well, and told me not to worry because she always wanted her puppy healthy but this was a training. She then threatened if I didn't show more appreciation for my cold egg then she would start serving me real dog food.
I then ate up my breakfast.

I was then left butterflies in my stomach for another few hours after she went out for shopping and I was left locked in the living room. She returned with bags of foods and unlocked me and required me to clean her boot with cloth first and then lick them. I did it, but I was quite exhausted and didn't really feel a lot of fun, but during the time, I erected and subsided regularly, of course she didn't allow me to masturbate and it was not even probably on her list of priorities.

She could tease me and she could read me, of course I know she did it because she did really enjoy it. Sometimes she would do things i don't really enjoy but she would also read me and did something to reward me. She spent a lot of time letting me knee down and teaching me , talking to me, but I was warned to remain silent or be punished. She told me a lot of her stories and her past and by the end of the 3-day, she said that in long run she at last wanted a permanent slave at home serving her full-time, from household work to personal caring. She said she wanted that because she thought female should always had power over male and her life will be much easier to have a free slave/puppy around her.

She told me to get back home to think about her ideas and she said she won't force me into full-time after many years, she said as a permanent slave of her, I will also have to have her name tattoo on my body as an indication of her property, but it's all only an early stage of suggestion.

My conclusion , confusion , and questions
1 . I didn't really believe my eyes, what I always dreamed of, had really happened, she is not a perfect beautiful woman though.

2. One night after she bathed and had her body partially dried with towel, she came out and instructed me to lick her ass and body clean. I am not really into licking and I was hesitated, of course I could escape from that and licked her ass and vagina, I didn't enjoy, and I swallowed a lot of her sweat and moisture on her body. I'd like to know if it would cause any possible health risks?

3. Although it really happened, I'd like to know - Is it really this kind of kinki woman in the world? or is she trying to look for something else by this mean?
I was alert in her home looking around and I've got mental preparation that she had some hidden cameras and threatened for large sum of cash with copies of the video of me nude in bondage...but I could accept myself as a 'kinky' star in the worst case scenarios. In addition to that, could anyone help guess if this woman has any evil plan than just simply looking for a slave, or simply because I am just too lucky to meet this lady?

4. Looking back to the three days of full time training, I should comment that only 40% of the time I felt enjoyable, and I was like suffering in the rest 60% of the time. However, for many years I have been looking for this kind of lifestyle........... how can I do better to be more enjoyable the next time I am invited to training

5. yesterday she instructed me to write a report explaining how I felt during the time and what is my commitment to her in the near future - whether I would like to slowly give up my job / career or work as a part time ....
I once married in 25 and got divorced two years late and luckily I have no kids, what do you think..

thanks Good night




NookieNotes -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 9:10:02 AM)

Two things stand out to me:

quote:

ORIGINAL: yc1984

She was not good-looking


You mentioned this several times. If that's important to you, then this will not work.

quote:

Looking back to the three days of full time training, I should comment that only 40% of the time I felt enjoyable, and I was like suffering in the rest 60% of the time.


That would not be nearly good enough for me. In ANY relationship, I believe that it should be well over 98% enjoyable.

And BOTH parties should feel like they are getting the best part of the bargain.

If you found one, you can find another.

To sum up my advice:

If it's not "Fuck Yeah!" then it should be "No."




Greta75 -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 9:18:01 AM)

I am confuse to one thing, are you saying if she was a beautiful woman, you would believe that all that is real? Because she was not attractive to you, that you do not believe it's real? Because that's all I pick up as the gist of the whole thing.




GoddessManko -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 9:18:18 AM)

Fast reply, I agree with Nookie, I found myself wincing at this.
quote:

she is not a perfect beautiful woman though.

Pretty shallow, but fine if that's what you need. She sounds FUCKING AMAZING... for someone else. Her kink clock might be higher than yours. In fact, you're quite lucky she indulged you at all. I'm impressed.




sexyred1 -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 9:21:31 AM)

It sounds to me like your reality didn't live up to your fantasy, which happens often.

You seem to be upset that you are not attracted to her and, duh, why do it if you don't find her attractive.

Your whole story smacks of sub frenzy. If you found one, you will find another.

Honestly, read what you write, you answered your own question.

It doesn't sound as if this us a match.




GoddessManko -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 9:25:37 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I am confuse to one thing, are you saying if she was a beautiful woman, you would believe that all that is real? Because she was not attractive to you, that you do not believe it's real? Because that's all I pick up as the gist of the whole thing.


Ha, you might not like his answer.




sexyred1 -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 9:28:59 AM)

Ha, if he thought she was hot, he would never have written this.




Greta75 -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 9:44:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

Ha, if he thought she was hot, he would never have written this.

Okay, so the gist of it is, he doesn't understand how could he possibly enjoy all those things with someone he found unattractive? Am I interpreting it correctly?




NookieNotes -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 9:54:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

Okay, so the gist of it is, he doesn't understand how could he possibly enjoy all those things with someone he found unattractive? Am I interpreting it correctly?


I don't get exactly that... because he said he did not enjoy 60% of those things.

I do think he was turned off by her unattractiveness and the fact that she was more hardcore than his wank-fantasies.




FieryOpal -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 9:56:53 AM)

What everyone else said...
quote:

ORIGINAL: yc1984
<snip>
2. One night after she bathed and had her body partially dried with towel, she came out and instructed me to lick her ass and body clean. I am not really into licking and I was hesitated, of course I could escape from that and licked her ass and vagina, I didn't enjoy, and I swallowed a lot of her sweat and moisture on her body. I'd like to know if it would cause any possible health risks?

3. Although it really happened, I'd like to know - Is it really this kind of kinki woman in the world? or is she trying to look for something else by this mean?
I was alert in her home looking around and I've got mental preparation that she had some hidden cameras and threatened for large sum of cash with copies of the video of me nude in bondage...but I could accept myself as a 'kinky' star in the worst case scenarios. In addition to that, could anyone help guess if this woman has any evil plan than just simply looking for a slave, or simply because I am just too lucky to meet this lady?

4. Looking back to the three days of full time training, I should comment that only 40% of the time I felt enjoyable, and I was like suffering in the rest 60% of the time. However, for many years I have been looking for this kind of lifestyle........... how can I do better to be more enjoyable the next time I am invited to training

5. yesterday she instructed me to write a report explaining how I felt during the time and what is my commitment to her in the near future - whether I would like to slowly give up my job / career or work as a part time ....
I once married in 25 and got divorced two years late and luckily I have no kids, what do you think..

There is so much wrong with how the both of you went about this, that I don't know where to begin or where my wall of text would end. [8|]
You have a hidden profile, so all I know is that you are a submissively inclined male over the age of 27 who is divorced, childless and employed.

You're worried about health risks of performing oral worship on a woman who has just bathed? Did you not get tested for STDs beforehand and swap test results with one another? Something tells me that out of subfrenzy and Dommefrenzy, neither of you did.

You are not attracted to this woman, you both jumped into what sounds like no-limits insta-slaving ass-backwards (Did you even have a safe word? Who leaves a locked-up/bound/caged person unattended while they go run errands? WTF?),... but the biggest fail to me personally is this: Don't do me any favors. If you don't want to make over and love on my body as much or more than I want you to --->>> GET THE FUCK OUT!!! [sm=ugh.gif]

Consider this as experience to learn from, don't repeat your (and her) long string of mistakes, stop letting your kink-dick do your thinking for you, and if you're going to continue to be a dickhead in the future, at least be turned on by the lady you're with. We deserve better than a piss-poor sub lover who's just going through the motions.




Greta75 -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 10:15:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
I do think he was turned off by her unattractiveness and the fact that she was more hardcore than his wank-fantasies.

Unless he was being sarcastic about could such a kinky woman exist? I thought he loved the experience so much, it was a dream come true, but he just couldn't believe that the person who could make all this fantasy happen for him is not attractive to him.




NookieNotes -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 10:18:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
I do think he was turned off by her unattractiveness and the fact that she was more hardcore than his wank-fantasies.

Unless he was being sarcastic about could such a kinky woman exist? I thought he loved the experience so much, it was a dream come true, but he just couldn't believe that the person who could make all this fantasy happen for him is not attractive to him.


He also said:

quote:

ORIGINAL: yc1984

I should comment that only 40% of the time I felt enjoyable, and I was like suffering in the rest 60% of the time.


*shudders*




SeekingTrinity -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 10:21:49 AM)

~FRing it~

First time I read this, I thought honestly you were doing a little one-handed typing with your cock in your other hand. Only thing missing was a "Dear Penthouse Forum," header. But I will assume for discussion sake that this is serious.

She was attractive enough for you to agree to spending three days with her. Enough said. Going on and on about how unattractive she is will not nullify it.

It was 40% enjoyable and 60% suffering. Sounds to me like this was 100% a case of reality not living up to fantasy.




GoddessManko -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 10:25:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

I don't get exactly that... because he said he did not enjoy 60% of those things.

I do think he was turned off by her unattractiveness and the fact that she was more hardcore than his wank-fantasies.


Well it is hard to understand because one minute he sounds like a kid in a candy store, describing the experience as "amazing" then he gave it a 4/10. Also I love how more sadistic kinks are "wtf" for Fiery, LOL.
Honestly though your points are very valid in the "rushing" of things Fiery, it's not typical but I have a feeling that she had a completely different impression of his intentions and was happy to find someone to work around her parenting schedule.
What bothers me most is his reluctance to be intimate with her stemmed from his lack of physical attraction. No offense to OP, but it's really shitty when a Domme is "used" solely for self gratification like a worn dish rag. Not saying that's what happened but if it did, [X(].
I'm pretty sure he didn't voice his "you're not beautiful" directly to her. The thought of a sub thinking this way while consenting to be dommed by someone seeking a "relationship" is a little saddening. And probably the root cause of his half-assed submission. This is just my perspective based on information given. I have never met anyone I didn't think was "beautiful", maybe unattractive to ME, or if the personality sucked, but still. Beauty is more than skin deep.
And Fiery omg! [sm=biggrin.gif]! But tell us how you really feel! LOL! Well stated.
Also Nookie, thanks for shuddering for me, pretty much where I am if what I think is correct. If you care about looks primarily OP, please recognize that so there isn't this veil of deception going on and you find someone compatible on all levels. Politely decline if the sparks are not there, you're allowed to do that. We prefer it, thank you.




FieryOpal -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 11:43:28 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

Also I love how more sadistic kinks are "wtf" for Fiery, LOL.


This has little to do with sadism, and from the sounds of it had nothing to do with consensual sado-masochism, and everything to do with stupid.

I see this, not just with inexperienced newbies. No BDSM checklist in advance covering areas of consent. A Master-slave fantasy weekend which can go south. Badly.
A sub friend of mine had a Mistress once who caged him in a dog crate all day long while she went out shopping.
No provision for leaving the key in an accessible spot, no cell phone to call a trusted person of hers with a spare key in case of emergency.
Fortunately for him, the house didn't burn down with him in it. He didn't panic and have a heart attack, asthma attack or seizure.

There could have been a water main break. Anything can happen. Others might have to enter your home in your absence.
Explain what a (probably naked) locked-up and/or bound person is doing in your home alone, ostensibly being held captive, while your butt lands in jail.
You didn't intend any harm, but neither do people serving time for manslaughter.




GoddessManko -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 12:01:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

This has little to do with sadism, and from the sounds of it had nothing to do with consensual sado-masochism, and everything to do with stupid.

I see this, not just with inexperienced newbies. No BDSM checklist in advance covering areas of consent. A Master-slave fantasy weekend which can go south. Badly.
A sub friend of mine had a Mistress once who caged him in a dog crate all day long while she went out shopping.
No provision for leaving the key in an accessible spot, no cell phone to call a trusted person of hers with a spare key in case of emergency.
Fortunately for him, the house didn't burn down with him in it. He didn't panic and have a heart attack, asthma attack or seizure.

There could have been a water main break. Anything can happen. Others might have to enter your home in your absence.
Explain what a (probably naked) locked-up and/or bound person is doing in your home alone, ostensibly being held captive, while your butt lands in jail.
You didn't intend any harm, but neither do people serving time for manslaughter.


Leaving my sub chained up while out running errands is a nice thought for me, I'd love that. RS also has caged subs for extensive amounts of time. I was talking about this in particular. Not the "rushing" of things.
I am not sure how much he was fed or his bathroom habits but for me, that works. Health concerns should be discussed prior to play. For example, a sub once told me he had an issue with bleeding. (THANK YOU!)
I knew right away that my kind of impact play was not for him. It is very different from someone having a complete inability to breathe while I went grocery shopping. My house can burn down while I sleep, wouldn't stop me from catching some Z's.




MariaB -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 12:22:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

A sub friend of mine had a Mistress once who caged him in a dog crate all day long while she went out shopping.
No provision for leaving the key in an accessible spot, no cell phone to call a trusted person of hers with a spare key in case of emergency.



Whilst staying at OWK I locked my sub in a stand up/crouch down cage. I put the key on a hook at the other side of the dungeon and went to bed. After two hours of being uncomfortable and bored, he started to shuffle the cage towards the opposite wall and the key. It was a fully monitored dungeon and so the night porter spent an amusing 3 hours watching his very slow cm by cm attempt to free himself. The following day he was absolutely exhausted and funnily enough, his desire to be locked in such a cage for the night was no longer present. I did though, leave the key in an accessible spot [:D]




FieryOpal -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 12:49:03 PM)

@GM, RS's red "cage" looked more like a plush mini-luxury pet motel! I believe his slave had an ipod and cell phone, as well as other entertainments.
And I hope you are just kidding.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MariaB

It was a fully monitored dungeon and so the night porter spent an amusing 3 hours watching his very slow cm by cm attempt to free himself.


At least you didn't leave the premises. Being in a monitored dungeon setting was being responsible, but I have to wonder what if the night porter had fallen into a diabetic coma and couldn't watch over your sub for those 3 hours? That would be my concern, depending on others to care for your property properly.




MissKittyDeVine -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 12:54:21 PM)

I suspect that the OP more properly belongs in Creative Writing - and that part 2 will be 'blackmailed by my mistress'.




GoddessManko -> RE: difficult decisions at some point of life. (12/5/2014 1:15:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

@GM, RS's red "cage" looked more like a plush mini-luxury pet motel! I believe his slave had an ipod and cell phone, as well as other entertainments.
And I hope you are just kidding.


Kidding about what? I have had dozens of subs/playmates over the years and done almost anything you can dream up honestly. They were all good experience and I think at this point I know what I'm doing, kind of like caring and conditioning my jute/hemp rope. I never had a "wtf" experience til I joined CS, sorry if that seems like shades the site because it doesn't, just more variety and opinions here. It's more mainstream than the alternatives I have used. I got used to being in places where people were seeking a female lifestyle Dominant specifically, and almost half of them were virgins, not the "20 years experience" types. I prefer blank canvases.
And yes, RS's cage was a nice one, even I want to sleep in it for kicks. [:D]
ETA, Thinking more carefully, it might also be that I'm a lot pickier now and simply seeking to introduce newbies to the lifestyle in what I deem as "properly" so it thrives.




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