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Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/9/2014 4:11:44 PM)

I suspect if you don't believe in it you won't be able to do it. It's nothing like lucid dreaming, but a lucid dream is a useful starting point. Something like a gateway or platform.



YouName -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/9/2014 4:14:49 PM)

You have done it?

I'm just suspcious of these things that's all. I was going to try and teach myself to do it but I never got going. Enough people have had supposed success for it to be easily dismissed.



Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/9/2014 4:17:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: YouName

You have done it?

I'm just suspcious of these things that's all. I was going to try and teach myself to do it but I never got going. Enough people have had supposed success for it to be easily dismissed.

Ever since I was little. Try reading "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" by Stephen LaBerge. Has useful tips for beginners.



YouName -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/9/2014 4:25:22 PM)

I'd very much like to trust that your experiences are real but if you'd allow me to play the sceptic, have you ever attempted and succeeded in proving it to someone who was curious, like a friend or family member?

If you haven't tried, why not? Why do you think it's not been proven to work yet?

I know some scientific work is being done in these and connected areas (such as the connection twins supposedly have, supposedly having some basis in quantum mechanics and particle memory) but I would assume astral projection to be such an easy thing to test, no?



Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/9/2014 8:08:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: YouName

I'd very much like to trust that your experiences are real but if you'd allow me to play the sceptic, have you ever attempted and succeeded in proving it to someone who was curious, like a friend or family member?

If you haven't tried, why not? Why do you think it's not been proven to work yet?

I know some scientific work is being done in these and connected areas (such as the connection twins supposedly have, supposedly having some basis in quantum mechanics and particle memory) but I would assume astral projection to be such an easy thing to test, no?


I would think developments in quantum physics in the future might reveal more about the concept. It has never occurred to me to attempt to prove what I do to someone else. I have rarely talked about it with anyone; the notion of it is far outside my culture's accepted worldview and I generally keep it to myself except to offer my experience if someone asks or brings it up. When it first started (around age 4) I was very scared but came to find it exciting, and over the years I looked into it and read a lot. I'm almost 56 so it has been a part of my life for 5 decades (a treasured part) and outside skepticism doesn't affect me.



YouName -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/10/2014 2:43:25 AM)

Are we talking about lucid dreaming or astral projection? Hearing about someone who has started with the later at such a young age is rare for me. I'm sure if there was some scientific evidence backing it up that more people would be interested in experiencing this thing that is a treasured part of your life and so they would feel the bliss you do.

How are you convinced it's not an illusion? Have you experienced things that confirm this to you on a personal level? Have you so to speak proven it to yourself?



MariaB -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/10/2014 5:15:21 AM)

I have suffered night terrors as long as I can remember and its always brought on by dreaming that I am being suffocated. I've done some awful things whilst having night terrors which include breaking two of my ex husbands fingers thumping Steve in the face, climbing out of a window and knocked over a huge bookshelf. A couple of years ago I had therapy and one of the things I was taught is how to "lucid dream". The night terror still starts but I'm now able to take active control before I go into a blind panic. It only works for that specific night terror though. I can still have full nightmares about other things but fortunately they don't happen often



YouName -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/10/2014 5:39:02 AM)

I wouldn't want breaking anyones fingers but I've had times when I've woken up screaming. I still appreciate the experience that only an unescapable horror can give me. The worse it is the harder it is to remember that it can be controlled, at least for me. But sometimes my mind seems to give me an exit anyway.

I'm reading up on night terrors here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_terror and I'm not quite sure if I've ever had one so I can't comment but being able to somehow defeat or beat a nightmare is also strangely satisfying. I'm glad you're managing to take control before the panic overwhelms you.



smileforme50 -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/10/2014 6:35:49 PM)

I never sleep for more that 3 hours at a time....but I think that's from age and anticonvulsant medication. I haven't had a dream (that I remember anyway) in a LONG time.

Funny thing about my dreams that I do remember having.....they are very boring non eventful....just images of doing things in every day life....grocery shopping, working at my job, walking my dog through a park. But they all have something very funny in common. The other people in the dream are physically identical to people I know...family members, co-workers and such. But in the dream, they are NEVER the same person they are in my real life. I'll dream about being in the grocery store and when I go to check out the cashier will be physically identical to a sibling, but in the dream they aren't my sibling....they are the cashier that I've never met. Or walking my dog through a park and passing by a woman sitting on a bench.....who is physically identical to my mother.

When I was younger I used to have dreams about extreme job stress.....MOUNTAINS of work coming down on me all at once the needed to be done NOW. Suddenly being the only one in the department and running around like crazy from room to room doing a million things with phones ringing off the hook and people telling me they needing something done.

Weird dream I had one time....Back when I was in college living in a dorm with a rooomate.... In reality....my alarm clock was going off and my roommate was trying to figure out how to turn it off and was trying to wake me up to get met to turn it off. In my dream.....I actually heard and incorporated her voice and the sound of the clock in the dream and was fighting against the clock that seemed to NOT want to shut off. In the dream I was pushing every button and unplugged it and trowing it across the room and it just wouldn't stop. I suddenly woke up my arm flew over to my nightstand to hit the clock and almost punched her in the nose.



YouName -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/11/2014 2:16:21 AM)

That's really coool. :D

Maybe "How life would be if I wasn't born"?



theshytype -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/11/2014 8:34:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

I would think developments in quantum physics in the future might reveal more about the concept. It has never occurred to me to attempt to prove what I do to someone else. I have rarely talked about it with anyone; the notion of it is far outside my culture's accepted worldview and I generally keep it to myself except to offer my experience if someone asks or brings it up. When it first started (around age 4) I was very scared but came to find it exciting, and over the years I looked into it and read a lot. I'm almost 56 so it has been a part of my life for 5 decades (a treasured part) and outside skepticism doesn't affect me.



SpiritedSub2, I understand why you treasure it.
I don't have them as often as I did, it's become rare. As a kid, though, it was very often.
I also recall having several dreams in my catalog that I'd choose from. I loved it. I loved going to sleep to dream.

I figured it was a common thing. I never even thought of reading up on it or learning why I've seemed to have lost it. My guess would be it has to do with creativity somehow - something that often gets lost into adulthood for some.



SweetForDaddy -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/12/2014 10:37:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

Shortly after my brother got engaged, I had a couple of dreams that he and I were in a relationship. It disturbed the hell out of me, because that was definitely NOT what I wanted. So after pondering that for a while, I came to a conclusion that might explain things: I was single at the time, and envious of what he had (though certainly didn't want to be in her place.) Those dreams stopped afterward, so either I was able to work through what I was feeling or managed to disturb myself enough that my brain decided not to subject myself to them any more.


Apparently those kinds of dreams tend to be about wanting to be closer to that person. Your brother getting married would maybe feel like you were losing him somehow? They are so weird though *shudder*



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Nightmares/Dreams (12/12/2014 7:29:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SweetForDaddy

This kind of came from the sleeping with the TV on thread and I thought it might be interesting to hear what other people have nightmares about, or dream about in general.

As a kid I had a recurrent nightmare that happened pretty much every single night for a long time, I was scared to go to bed as every time I went to sleep I was very close to being beheaded with a machete by some psycho under a bridge.

I've never dreamed of dying but I have dreamed of being dead. I've watched people coming to view my body in a morgue.

My latest delight is sleep paralysis. I'm asleep and I dream that I wake up and theres a strange man in a saw mask (Saw the film) straddling me in bed. He's pressing down on my chest with both his hands and stops me breathing. I do then actually wake up but I'm completely paralysed, I can't move a muscle. I want to shout for help but no sound will come out. It probably only lasts a minute but its bloody scary (also quite interesting, once I'm over the panic).

I have changed dreams sometimes, when I was a kid I could change a bad ending into a good one (how I stopped the recurring dream). I have no idea how I did this.

I can also wake myself up laughing sometimes if I'm having a good dream, or if I have an alarm set, the sound will turn into something else in my dream, like a fire engine or something and it won't wake me up.

I would love to dream about flying but that one has passed me by so far.

Nightmares and dreams people, lets hear them!


Typical.



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