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KenDckey -> IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 4:45:02 PM)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/12/10/obama-justice-department-was-involved-in-irs-targeting-lerner-emails-reveal/ Appears somebody knew I think, if my memory serves me, that Nixon was impeached for less.

DomKen -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 4:50:51 PM)
First, the groups that were "targeted" are breaking the law so it was appropriate for Lerner to contact the DOJ about them. Why they are not being prosecuted is the actual scandal. Second Nixon was not impeached so your memory sucks.

KenDckey -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 4:59:24 PM)
So why weren't they prosecuted? If there was criminal wrong doing, then it is encumbant upon DOJ to enforce the law. Or is this a case of selective prosecution or something?

BamaD -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 5:03:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey So why weren't they prosecuted? If there was criminal wrong doing, then it is encumbant upon DOJ to enforce the law. Or is this a case of selective prosecution or something? They were conservative therefore they were criminals, in DK's world conservatism is a crime.

CreativeDominant -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 5:10:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen First, the groups that were "targeted" are breaking the law so it was appropriate for Lerner to contact the DOJ about them. Why they are not being prosecuted is the actual scandal. Second Nixon was not impeached so your memory sucks. As has been noted, if they were illegal, you can bet the D.O.J. under this administration would have gone after them, given they were conservative.

DomKen -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 5:38:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen First, the groups that were "targeted" are breaking the law so it was appropriate for Lerner to contact the DOJ about them. Why they are not being prosecuted is the actual scandal. Second Nixon was not impeached so your memory sucks. As has been noted, if they were illegal, you can bet the D.O.J. under this administration would have gone after them, given they were conservative. You crybabies might want to check into reality. In order to be prosecuted for an election law violation there would need to be a finding from the FEC which simply never happens because of the structure of the FEC. But any halfwit can read the tax law in question and see that the organizations are violating it.

KenDckey -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 5:43:11 PM)
OK then it begs to be aasked If the FEC is responsible for election violations, then why was the IRS and DOJ involved?

BamaD -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 5:55:25 PM)
But any halfwit can read the tax law in question and see that the organizations are violating it. DK That explains why you think they violated the law.

DesideriScuri -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 7:01:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen First, the groups that were "targeted" are breaking the law so it was appropriate for Lerner to contact the DOJ about them. Why they are not being prosecuted is the actual scandal. Second Nixon was not impeached so your memory sucks. Why were most of them allowed tax exempt status eventually?

BamaD -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 7:05:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen First, the groups that were "targeted" are breaking the law so it was appropriate for Lerner to contact the DOJ about them. Why they are not being prosecuted is the actual scandal. Second Nixon was not impeached so your memory sucks. Why were most of them allowed tax exempt status eventually? Obviously because Obama has people like Holder in key positions who are part of the vast right wing conspiracy.

Musicmystery -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 7:05:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/12/10/obama-justice-department-was-involved-in-irs-targeting-lerner-emails-reveal/ Appears somebody knew I think, if my memory serves me, that Nixon was impeached for less. Your memory serves you not. Nixon was impeached for a lot more.

KenDckey -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 7:14:31 PM)
Following DK's logic here, the scandal is that DOJ is promoting lawlessness. The operative word in DK's statement is "are" therefore some form of proof must be available to us. DK must be aware of it, but has failed to provide it to us, at least at this point. I know of no such proof. Being a suspect isn't proof, or everyone brought before the justice system would have to prove their innocence, not the converse. So I ask, where is the proof that is in the hands of the IRS/DOJ that lead to the "are" comment and what is this proof?

cloudboy -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 8:04:30 PM)
Why can't the IRS consult with the DOJ about prosecuting tax cheats?

DomKen -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 8:24:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD But any halfwit can read the tax law in question and see that the organizations are violating it. DK That explains why you think they violated the law. Because they were claiming 501(c)4 status and they simply don't qualify http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Other-Non-Profits/Types-of-Organizations-Exempt-under-Section-501(c)(4)

TheHeretic -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 8:29:12 PM)
We'll see how Ken likes it when the investigation turns to SSDI recipients who make political hacktivism a full time occupation.

DaddySatyr -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 8:57:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/12/10/obama-justice-department-was-involved-in-irs-targeting-lerner-emails-reveal/ Appears somebody knew I think, if my memory serves me, that Nixon was impeached for less. Your memory serves you not. Nixon was impeached for a lot more. Your'n isn't much better. Nixon resigned and was pardoned before he was impeached. ETA: Make no mistake about it; the house had passed a resolution that was going to the full house for a vote and it was GOING to happen but it didn't. I did just do a little research and while I think there is some parallels between the two scandals, I don't think they have a smoking gun connecting Obummer to any of this, directly. Logic and the maritime law of "Captain of a Ship" tells me that he is guilty but, I don't think it can be proven, legally ... yet. Michael

Musicmystery -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/11/2014 9:15:16 PM)
Fair point.

KenDckey -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/12/2014 2:38:57 AM)
Hmmmmm I thought it was a democrat that said "the buck stops here" or something like that. And that all the training I ever received is that the chain of command (which stops at the buck) is responsible for the actions of the subordinates appointed/designated/etc below. Did I hear it wrong?

DomKen -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/12/2014 2:51:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey Hmmmmm I thought it was a democrat that said "the buck stops here" or something like that. And that all the training I ever received is that the chain of command (which stops at the buck) is responsible for the actions of the subordinates appointed/designated/etc below. Did I hear it wrong? You cannot convict someone criminally for something a subordinate did without their knowledge no matter how much you hate that person.

DomKen -> RE: IRS DOJ SCANDAL (12/12/2014 2:53:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic We'll see how Ken likes it when the investigation turns to SSDI recipients who make political hacktivism a full time occupation. File a complaint. I'll laugh my ass off.

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