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louisboy -> just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/12/2014 12:47:41 PM)

I recently asked a question and your answers were dead on. There's something in my past that I've always wondered about. I was in my late teens, came from a small town and naive as hell. I used to jerk off to guys on the sports page and kiss their crotches, but I wasn't one of "THEM". I met a guy at work, Bob, who filled out his jeans remarkably well. We got to talking and he told me he wanted to commit suicide, because he was ugly. So, to save his life, I worked in it how good he looked whenever I saw him. We got this temp weekend job of moving old files to the basement. We had a cart, but it was in an old factory building with crummy floors, so that the file boxes wouldn't bounce off unless somebody had to lay across the top. Well, I was the one ,who pushed the cart. On the way back the cart was empty. Bob walked over to the cart and sat on it, like it was a throne. So, I had to push him back upstairs. I have this sub streak in me that won't quite, I'm enjoying the hell out of this. He started doing things to test his dominance, like making me stop the cart by a window, so he could look out, then motion his hand to tell me to move on. There were lots of things like that. He asked me to go on a camping trip with him. I had never been camping, but Bob had enough for both of us. I put on the back Bob had made for me and it weighed a ton. Later, I moved Bob's back pack and it hardly weighed anything. I was the pack mule. We had to get water out of the creek, but he picked up a rifle and I had to pick up the pail. There were always little test of his dominance and I ate them up. Now to the weird part



louisboy -> just life or did I miss a bullet PART 2 (12/12/2014 1:21:02 PM)

BTW, I should have told you Bob found out I had foot fetish and as we watched the fire at night, he kept moving his boots out of my line of sight, so I had to keep moving up a few inches.. He did this about four times. I didn't think he suspected anything until he asked me why I kept moving.
Bob got an apartment, well a place teenager could afford. Bob invited me over. When I got there, Steve was there. I kind of knew Steve, but I was surprised that Bob never mentioned him being there. It was only a few minutes ago that Bob invited me over. Bob said that there were only two chairs in the place so I had to sit on the floor. I felt slighted, so I said I'd stand, But Bob got really insistent that I'd sit on the floor.It became a thing. He just kept saying "Sit on the floor" He wanted me on the floor, so I angrily left.I thought it was weird that Steve hadn't said one word since I'd been there. And Bob ceased to be my friend. Never saw him again. When I got the submissive star dust out of eyes, I realized that I had been played, and right from the "suicide" to sitting on the floor was planned. I often wondered what might have happened if I sat down on the floor. This is where you guys come in. You know this stuff. I'm still naive and vanilla as that ice cream cone. Is it just my own paranoia or did I miss a bullet.



crazyml -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 2 (12/12/2014 1:27:23 PM)

Hi Louis,

I'm not doubting the truth of this story for one second. But could you do me a big one and read it through again and ponder for a moment whether or not it looks like a pretty flagrant piece of wank-fodder fiction?

To answer your question... if you had sat down, it would almost certainly ended in a way utterly different to any fantasy you might have subsequently constructed.

My advice is to move on.



louisboy -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 2 (12/12/2014 4:02:51 PM)

Dear Crazml;
Well, you're right, I can't prove any of it. Was I naive, and getting played by a good looking guy-Oh big time. When I walked into Bob's place and Steve just happened to be there, did I think there was some kind of set up-definitely. I don't know why Bob was so damn insistent on me sitting on the floor. I could tell that me not sitting on the floor was screwing up his plan-whatever it was. I took that as a red flag and left.
Like I said, when I was able to see Bob in a more realistic light, I saw how manipulative he was. He was always 10 steps ahead of me. It's always been a what if moment for me.
If you all think it's crap, well, that's why I asked you.



FieryOpal -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/14/2014 2:23:41 AM)

You're wondering if you got spared from getting used and discarded by a guy who played you, in your own words, and set you up for some sort of non-consensual ménage à trois with his other boy?

I would think you already know the answer to that. How normal is it to get targeted and/or lured by a sexual predator? Not so uncommon. I suspect your real question is how did you allow yourself to get manipulated like that. You were young. You weren't thinking sensibly and allowed your lusts to overtake you (i.e., thinking with you little head instead of your big one). If you were still young and still shaken up over this, we could give you some advice to watch out for red flags next time, but you're over 60 and should have put this into perspective a long time ago. Now, if there is a situation with your current partner which is bringing up this unpleasant memory, or if he reminds you of Bob, then you need to listen to your instincts because they are warning you.



louisboy -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/14/2014 9:45:07 AM)

Thank you. I'm not explaining this right. At this time, yeah Bob was a good looking male and I was gay-didn't know it though. I was a good little Catholic boy and that closet door was welded shut. And even today, I would assume Bob was straight. He made no advances whatsoever. It was more of a power trip. For instance, we were supposed to spend another night in the woods. He made me get fire wood, and apparently there never was enough fire wood for him, until I amassed a huge pile. One hour later, he said we were going home. That was just one thin. I was so played and it was so planned. Also, it's not that I was traumatized by this or anything. I do think I did the right thing for by not sitting down, I guess I wanted the experts in " ways of your expanding limits" to sort of confirm that.



GoddessManko -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/14/2014 11:05:27 AM)

FR, my perspective. You're over thinking things. In matters of the heart or loins, does the "why" truly matter? In my opinion, no.



louisboy -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/14/2014 11:57:28 AM)

Fieryopal:
I'm sorry. You are spot on. I'm extremely dyslexic. When I log in the spell check app tries to hang itself. I thought you wrote "Not so common". Thank you. Again, I'm sorry.
Rick



FieryOpal -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/14/2014 7:18:18 PM)

You explained yourself well enough for us to get the picture that whether Bob knew or thought he was gay at that age, he had found himself a pet in you and then proceeded to "test" you. Whether that other guy (whom you felt jealous of, nothing wrong with that) was just a buddy is immaterial in the sense that Bob was showing off and using you to boost his ego. He had probably bragged to this guy that you would do whatever he instructed you to do. You didn't. Whether he had any other ulterior plans in mind, should you have proved to be his obedient little pet, then he may have ordered you to perform a sexual act on them. If so, then your resistance "ruined" things, and it's just as well because then you would have looked back upon this as being traumatic sexual abuse in which you were complicit and would have felt guilt & shame about your homosexuality.

You may have dodged a bullet, because when power goes to someone's head, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.



Stephann -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/15/2014 1:33:32 PM)

Just my two bits, but complimenting someone won't keep them from a suicidal path. Therapy, honest communication, loving friends, and a sense of purpose are all heads and shoulders more helpful.

It's cool to try new things, it's cool to play what if games. It's not cool to be manipulative and carry ulterior motives. Be nice, be honest, and play with others the way you'd want them to play with you.

-Stephan



louisboy -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/15/2014 4:13:35 PM)

Dear Stephann;
I don't want to use the word "grooming" because of all the connotations, but that's exactly what Bob was doing. This was just one of his little bag of tricks. He told me he wanted to commit suicide. And, of course, I tried to talk him out of it. Well, the next day, he said he thought about killing himself again, but my telling him he was good looking stopped him. So, if told him he was good looking every day, he wouldn't kill himself. DUH! I bit. So,I managed to tell him he was good looking several times a day, for months. I was Naive, with a capital "N".

I believe FieryOpal is spot on.

BTW I like your pic. So cute and cuddly...........and you don't look bad either.
Rick



ResidentSadist -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/16/2014 2:32:25 AM)

I don't know about missing a bullet but looks like you broke training to me.



louisboy -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/16/2014 11:57:27 AM)

Dear ResidentSadist;
Yes, I got the feeling I was screwing up Bob's plan by not sitting down on the floor. I didn't know I was "in training". Bob just moved to his place, I'd never been there. There was a guy I'd seen around a couple of times-never talked to him, never knew his name, so I called him "Steve" for the story. When I entered Bob place, he didn't introduce "Steve". Nor did Steve make any greeting nods or anything. Bob immediately told me he had only two chairs and to sit on the floor. I felt uneasy so I said, "Nah, I 'll stand". Bob made me sitting on the floor a thing. I got scared and bolted.
ResidentSadist, you sound very familiar with the process. Maybe you could fill in what I've been wondering about for decades. I just gave a bare minimum of the manipulation that Bob used on me. It was a full court press. And I have to admit the thought of obeying Bob still gets me hard.
What do you think Bob would have done if I obeyed him and sat on the floor?



ResidentSadist -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/17/2014 3:35:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: louisboy
. . . I have to admit the thought of obeying Bob still gets me hard.
What do you think Bob would have done if I obeyed him and sat on the floor?


If it excites you, you should ask him.



louisboy -> RE: just life or did I miss a bullet PART 1 (12/18/2014 10:24:07 AM)

Dear ResidentSadist;
Bob broke off all contact immediately after the incident. Thank you for your interest.
I'd like to thank you and the rest of the people, who responded to my little problem. I appreciate your time and your concern. I doubt I could have gotten better advice anywhere on the planet.
Thank you.
Rick



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