igor2003
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Bama you will not find me among those that think just because millions of Muslims are peaceful this absolves them of all responsibility of these terrorists acts. I personally think Islam in general by its very nature and teachings breeds terrorism more so then other religions. But i will not blame the vast majority of Muslims for the specific acts of terrorists.
But what I believe, and will take the heat for, is my belief that peaceful Muslims do not do enough to stamp out radicals in their religion. Radicalism cannot exist on the scale it has manifested itself today without help, indifference and denial of responsibility by the leaders of the religion.
Butch
I agree that if more peace loving Muslims would speak out against the radicals it would help to keep the terrorist attacks under some degree of control. But Muslims living in the Middle East, and those that have immigrated from there have lived for many years knowing, or at least believing, that if they speak out against the radicals their lives, and the lives of their families will quite likely be targeted. Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe that is why more of them don't speak out, and living with that kind of fear, I could understand their silence.
This is nonsense. Radical Islam is a tiny fraction of the Muslim world and many Muslim communities stand up and voice the good spirit of Islam to the masses, whilst condemning groups like IS. These people continually speak out in schools and mosques. I even saw a Muslim cleric giving a talk on the evils of IS at Speakers Corner recently and he had a big cheering audience.
Muslims in the west or more likely to live in fear of reprisals from the west itself towards their communities. Prejudice towards Muslims as a whole is on the up. Mass media hype has been hugely damaging to these communities...and so it goes on.
Perhaps you should go back to school and take a course in reading comprehension? I never said that NONE of the peace loving Muslims ever spoke out. What I said is that it would help if MORE of them did. And while some of them do speak out, it, like the radicals, is a very small percentage over all.
To see what the radicals do when other Muslims go against what they want, all you have to do is look back in the not too distant past and see what they did to Malala. Remember her? The little girl that was shot in the head because she wanted to go to school. That is the type of reprisals most Muslims have to think about before they take a stand against the radicals.
Now maybe Muslims in the west do have more to fear from non-Muslims than from the radicals. But what I spoke of was the fact that they (those that immigrated from the Middle East) came from an area where it was other Muslims that they had to fear, and that kind of ingrained fear that has been part of their life for many, many years is hard to ignore, even after the actual threat is gone.
You say that prejudice against Muslims as a whole is up, and I think that is true. But once again, it might not be that way if MORE of the peace loving Muslims would make themselves heard.
You can agree with what I say, or not. I really don't care. But if you want to argue, then at least argue about what I actually said instead of making up your own version of what I said. Okay? Thanks.
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