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Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/10/2015 12:46:16 PM

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As a man who considers himself a kinky bull more than just a traditional "dom", I feel almost out of place sometimes. Not quite welcome on your traditional dating site but not quite welcome here. Maybe it's just me? I feel as a bull I play an important role in cuckold and dom wife / sub husband relationships yet I don't feel like there's a lot of that happening here. Might just be me though, anyone care to share their thoughts?

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/10/2015 1:25:11 PM

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You'll find people interested here I'm sure. OKCupid is pretty sex positive and fetlife has several groups specifically for that. There are several swinging websites as well that may suit you, but that's all personal preference. You'll get a few nasty messages pretty much anywhere you go of people disapproving or saying you don't belong but that is the internet. Just try to communicate clearly what you're looking for.

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/10/2015 1:27:42 PM

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Well, of course not every femdom is into cuckolding. I get the impression that it's kind of a "minority fetish," so you may not have that many takers. But I think if I were going to cuckold someone, I'd want the other lover to be another submissive, not a dominant. That said, I think you have as much right to be here as any of the rest of us. Good luck.

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/10/2015 1:46:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: Blkbullman

As a man who considers himself a kinky bull more than just a traditional "dom", I feel almost out of place sometimes. Not quite welcome on your traditional dating site but not quite welcome here. Maybe it's just me? I feel as a bull I play an important role in cuckold and dom wife / sub husband relationships yet I don't feel like there's a lot of that happening here. Might just be me though, anyone care to share their thoughts?

Read your profile and ask yourself, if you were a cuck, is this the guy you want to invite into your life?

You are very direct, but very shallow. If you want to be a Bull, the cuckholdress is going to want some substance rather than a raging cock. You need to consider it like romancing a vanilla partner, you can't just say "Bitch, be real" and expect her to have a relationship with her... and if she did, would you really want a relationship with her?

You are wanting to participate in a very intimate, personal, and private setting. You are asking a couple to make you part of their world, the duration may very, but they do not want to invite an unstable psychopath into their lives, and there are finer points to cuckholding that you haven't even began to address. She wants a romantic partner, wine her, dine her, take her out to the movies, be a romantic partner to her and then fuck the slut right out of her for her cuck to see.

Your success as a Bull is going to be equal to your success as a vanilla dating partner. Substance first, cock later.

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/10/2015 2:00:33 PM

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Cuckolding (and Cuckqueaning) are lifestyle niches and not engaged in casually the way that vanilla swinger couples might do. Even then, much like porn actors, they tend to keep within their own circle of fuckbuddies, from what I understand.

Whether vanilla or not, you are at a disadvantage because you are not part of a couple. Therefore, being stag, you do not have a partner to swap with another couple.

You say you are a Dom at 21. You seek a Domme/male sub couple. What makes you think that a Domme wants to hook up with a Dom? She would be the one in charge of and in control of the scene, not you. Why would she trust a strange Dom to go along with the program without a hitch? I'm a Domme, although not a Cuckoldress, and I can count on 2 fingers how many Doms I trust on a platonic basis.
Cuckoldresses use bull slaves to service them, sometimes a male S/switch, or else just a horny well-hung vanilla dude.
Regardless of your orientation(s), you should ascertain whether there will be any "forced" bisexuality involved, as to whether you would agree to this.

I have a Dom friend who was approached while dining by a French vanilla couple who regularly sought out threesomes. The shapely wife told him that her husband had a very small penis and couldn't satisfy her. My friend was tempted to consider her offer and asked my opinion. She wasn't seeking a Dominant male, just a sex partner. I advised him to pick the venue and make sure there wasn't any possibility of getting secretly taped so that he wouldn't find images of himself later that had gotten uploaded onto a porn site in the foreign country where he was doing business.

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/10/2015 2:10:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant

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ORIGINAL: Blkbullman

As a man who considers himself a kinky bull more than just a traditional "dom", I feel almost out of place sometimes. Not quite welcome on your traditional dating site but not quite welcome here. Maybe it's just me? I feel as a bull I play an important role in cuckold and dom wife / sub husband relationships yet I don't feel like there's a lot of that happening here. Might just be me though, anyone care to share their thoughts?

Read your profile and ask yourself, if you were a cuck, is this the guy you want to invite into your life?

You are very direct, but very shallow. If you want to be a Bull, the cuckholdress is going to want some substance rather than a raging cock. You need to consider it like romancing a vanilla partner, you can't just say "Bitch, be real" and expect her to have a relationship with her... and if she did, would you really want a relationship with her?

You are wanting to participate in a very intimate, personal, and private setting. You are asking a couple to make you part of their world, the duration may very, but they do not want to invite an unstable psychopath into their lives, and there are finer points to cuckholding that you haven't even began to address. She wants a romantic partner, wine her, dine her, take her out to the movies, be a romantic partner to her and then fuck the slut right out of her for her cuck to see.

Your success as a Bull is going to be equal to your success as a vanilla dating partner. Substance first, cock later.

Jus sayin

Yup. That. As someone who really enjoys cuckolding, I have not interest in the "hmu" or booty call variety of male partners. I like men who can actually make my Pet feel inferior, not ones who may have a lovely body and big cock, but that's all. My cuck would laugh all the way through a session, knowing that guy has nothing on him.

*shrugs*

Oh, and a good bull SHOULD be dominant. Naturally. I don't know if you are or not, but I can tell you, 99% that I've met have more fragile egos than submissives...

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/10/2015 2:15:06 PM

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Nookster, admittedly 99% of all Male D's have brittle egos, they may be HUGE, but you can smash them with a feather.

Jus sayin

P.S. Now, all the Male D's that come on here and say "nu-uh", well... thanks for supporting my claim.

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/10/2015 2:26:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Blkbullman

As a man who considers himself a kinky bull more than just a traditional "dom", I feel almost out of place sometimes. Not quite welcome on your traditional dating site but not quite welcome here. Maybe it's just me? I feel as a bull I play an important role in cuckold and dom wife / sub husband relationships yet I don't feel like there's a lot of that happening here. Might just be me though, anyone care to share their thoughts?

Just off the top of my head, I'm going to go along with E.T. and tell you that your profile indicates an inclination towards one thing...getting laid.

Now...something that abrupt and frank may draw some to you but not too many of what you say you're looking for here. You say you want to be a bull...take the woman while her wimp...errrr, cuckold partner watches. But you say that here, NOT on your profile.

You note that you're interested in Domme women...for what exactly? To be their Dom bull for the evening while her male, cuckold, slave watches you not only fuck the woman he may not be able to ( though he wishes he could ) BUT dominate her? Spank her? Humiliate her? In front of the slave she is supposed to take control of after you leave? Ummmm...good luck with that. Unless you are just so damn good and handsome and charming that you can make any of the FemDoms I've seen on the forum go all sublike.

None of this is expressed in your profile. Nor is there any indication of what you understand about the male cuckolds in these couples...as a matter of fact, he isn't mentioned. Don't you think he deserves some notice...a modicum of respect? Yes, I called the cuckold a wimp...my own perception of that behavior. That doesn't mean I don't respect him as her partner.

At 21, I knew what I wanted too...lots and lots of pussy. But I knew that generally, the best came with some effort. Not just my good looks, glib tongue and charming demeanor. (But damn!!! I wish I'd had the Domly-Dom pose)

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/10/2015 4:21:44 PM

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Yup. That. As someone who really enjoys cuckolding, I have not interest in the "hmu" or booty call variety of male partners. I like men who can actually make my Pet feel inferior, not ones who may have a lovely body and big cock, but that's all. My cuck would laugh all the way through a session, knowing that guy has nothing on him.

*shrugs*

Oh, and a good bull SHOULD be dominant. Naturally. I don't know if you are or not, but I can tell you, 99% that I've met have more fragile egos than submissives...

Just so I don't misconstrue, are you saying that the bull should be a Dom, or merely more Dominant than the male sub partner/husband? I see a bull slave as being more of an Alpha slave, with a more dominant and intimidating presence than the cuckolded male.

Two male subs I know who get into being cuckolded (but not physically present) would also find it laughable if their Mistress were dating a man they couldn't take seriously as a threat. Both were being cuckolded by big fish vanillas who could offer their Mistress the good life in addition to a bigger cock. (These weren't consensual cuckolding situations in that the bulls were not aware they were serving as bulls to a Cuckoldress. Part of the subs' aftercare for their mental torment was being rewarded sexually afterwards.)

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/10/2015 6:45:54 PM

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Not quite welcome on your traditional dating site but not quite welcome here. Maybe it's just me?

At least on the forum end of things collarchat seems to cater to a very narrow range of the kinky community but I'm fairly confident that there are fetlife groups for your kink.

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/11/2015 4:32:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant

Nookster, admittedly 99% of all Male D's have brittle egos, they may be HUGE, but you can smash them with a feather.

Jus sayin

P.S. Now, all the Male D's that come on here and say "nu-uh", well... thanks for supporting my claim.

LOL! Truth. But since we were on the topic of bulls...

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You note that you're interested in Domme women...for what exactly? To be their Dom bull for the evening while her male, cuckold, slave watches you not only fuck the woman he may not be able to ( though he wishes he could ) BUT dominate her? Spank her? Humiliate her? In front of the slave she is supposed to take control of after you leave? Ummmm...good luck with that. Unless you are just so damn good and handsome and charming that you can make any of the FemDoms I've seen on the forum go all sublike.

To be fair, CD, I prefer dominant male bulls. I don't mind some spanking and rough play. There is no way he can humiliate me, that's just not in my lexicon. Having a dominant bull as a partner makes the possibilities more fun for cuckold play.

The point I wanted to make, though, is that as a switch in the bedroom (a bull could, at most, be a partner in whatever relationship is built), no matter what a man might do to or with me, that does not affect my personal dominance.

My personal dominance is earned between the ears. I make good decisions, I am right more often than not, and I am a careful and conscientious leader.

Enjoying a little fuckery will not change that.

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None of this is expressed in your profile. Nor is there any indication of what you understand about the male cuckolds in these couples...as a matter of fact, he isn't mentioned. Don't you think he deserves some notice...a modicum of respect? Yes, I called the cuckold a wimp...my own perception of that behavior. That doesn't mean I don't respect him as her partner.

That's an interesting perspective. While I would agree, many cuckolds MAY BE wimps, that is not true of all. It's like saying submissives are weak. Some are, because that is all they can be. Others choose submission and cuckoldry, because it calls to them. That does not, in my experience, make them weak or wimpy in any way.

YMMV.

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Yup. That. As someone who really enjoys cuckolding, I have not interest in the "hmu" or booty call variety of male partners. I like men who can actually make my Pet feel inferior, not ones who may have a lovely body and big cock, but that's all. My cuck would laugh all the way through a session, knowing that guy has nothing on him.

*shrugs*

Oh, and a good bull SHOULD be dominant. Naturally. I don't know if you are or not, but I can tell you, 99% that I've met have more fragile egos than submissives...

Just so I don't misconstrue, are you saying that the bull should be a Dom, or merely more Dominant than the male sub partner/husband? I see a bull slave as being more of an Alpha slave, with a more dominant and intimidating presence than the cuckolded male.

Well, there is a difference between a bull and a bull slave.

Yes, a bull slave needs to be able to submit, but be alpha, still. But a bull dom who can partner with the dominant female is another option. There is also the bull dom who takes over and leads a sub couple.

And there are 100% vanilla bulls, where it's not really about dominance or submission. It's just about fuckery. Outside of the roleplay, there is no PE.

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Two male subs I know who get into being cuckolded (but not physically present) would also find it laughable if their Mistress were dating a man they couldn't take seriously as a threat. Both were being cuckolded by big fish vanillas who could offer their Mistress the good life in addition to a bigger cock. (These weren't consensual cuckolding situations in that the bulls were not aware they were serving as bulls to a Cuckoldress. Part of the subs' aftercare for their mental torment was being rewarded sexually afterwards.)

Yes, exactly. That is the mentality I see most often.

And strangely, I get it.

You see, I don't get jealous easily. Almost never. When I do, it feels really kinda cool, so I poke at it and play with it, and examine it, and think to myself, "WOW! I'm so deep!"

LOL!

It's a depth of feeling these men want. And my Pet is a really amazing man. While NO ONE could take me from him, the possibility needs to be there, so the mind is a HUGE aspect of our sessions, if a bull is going to stick around.

Because without the brain, there is no substance.

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At least on the forum end of things collarchat seems to cater to a very narrow range of the kinky community but I'm fairly confident that there are fetlife groups for your kink.

Oh, there are. Many. And related to specific locations as well. I know there's one in NC, for example.

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/11/2015 4:39:39 AM

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"That's an interesting perspective. While I would agree, many cuckolds MAY BE wimps, that is not true of all. It's like saying submissives are weak. Some are, because that is all they can be. Others choose submission and cuckoldry, because it calls to them. That does not, in my experience, make them weak or wimpy in any way.

YMMV. "

I so agree with this. Maybe it's because I identify as submissive but I have a hard time seeing any fellow submissive whether male or female - even cucks - as weak or wimpy. Regardless of which subcategory I think it takes a lot of strength to watch one's mate be fucked in front of you and not freak, I probably would. Then again I don't like to share so that probably has a lot to do with it.

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RE: Is there a place for bulls here? - 1/13/2015 7:05:04 AM

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Just follow the huge trail of bullshit, you'll find lots of bulls there.

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