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Strong Doms / Masters - 7/13/2006 7:35:49 PM   
Perenti


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Status: offline 		A female sub friend of mine sometimes uses the word 'strong' when she speaks of a particular Dom or Master she knows, when she is describing his abilities as a Dom / Master. as in:  "He's a very strong Dom."  I've asked her several times just what this means and what exactly it would require to be considered a "strong Dom", but she has never really elaborated any more. 

I've actually met one of the people she has described as strong and my impression of him is of someone who I would never consider to be 'strong' in any meaning of the word.  In fact, I found most facets of his character to be pretty weak and sleazy, so what is this mysterious quality of being "strong" and what does it mean to a sub or slave?
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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/13/2006 9:17:17 PM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		Perhaps capable is a better adjective? I do not know about the strong thing either, but a capable dom is preferable to brute strength in my book any day of the week..

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/13/2006 9:22:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Perenti

A female sub friend of mine sometimes uses the word 'strong' when she speaks of a particular Dom or Master she knows, when she is describing his abilities as a Dom / Master. as in:  "He's a very strong Dom."  I've asked her several times just what this means and what exactly it would require to be considered a "strong Dom", but she has never really elaborated any more. 

I've actually met one of the people she has described as strong and my impression of him is of someone who I would never consider to be 'strong' in any meaning of the word.  In fact, I found most facets of his character to be pretty weak and sleazy, so what is this mysterious quality of being "strong" and what does it mean to a sub or slave?

For myself only, I would not describe Master as physically strong; yet, I would say that he has a strength that I find lacking in many men who are physically strong. It's not a quality that is so blatant that you can not help but notice it; rather it is something subtle that sneaks up on you. Best way that I can think to describe it.

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/13/2006 9:28:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Perenti

A female sub friend of mine sometimes uses the word 'strong' when she speaks of a particular Dom or Master she knows...

...so what is this mysterious quality of being "strong" and what does it mean to a sub or slave?


To me, a strong Dominant is someone who exudes self-confidence without needing to say it outright, who's comfortable in their own skin, and who is willing to make learning a life-long event.

But that's just me.

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/13/2006 9:40:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		maybe it's just me, but i'm betting she means "His chemistry triggers my chemistry"..  which is often how it is, what one perceives as "major Domli aura", another might not. 

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/13/2006 9:42:17 PM   
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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/13/2006 10:03:53 PM   
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Mavis
titleAndStar(86,0,0,false,"","")Status: online maybe it's just me, but i'm betting she means "His chemistry triggers my chemistry".. which is often how it is, what one perceives as "major Domli aura", another might not.


I think you've hit the essence, Mavis :-)  Most people are swayed more by chemistry & superficials than by logic or other factors.

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ORIGINAL: Perenti
A female sub friend of mine sometimes uses the word 'strong' when she speaks of a particular Dom or Master she knows...
...so what is this mysterious quality of being "strong" and what does it mean to a sub or slave?

To me, a strong Dominant is someone who exudes self-confidence without needing to say it outright, who's comfortable in their own skin, and who is willing to make learning a life-long event. ~Holly


FWIW:  Too many "Doms" compensate for inadequacies with braggadocio, bravado & boorish, bullying behaviour.  They think being rough is the same as being strong.  Whereas confidence in who one is, and what one stands for ... and the integrity to stand for something ... and honesty with self & others are hallmarks of someone who is in control.  If a sub/slave merely wants to be beaten & abused ... it's easy to find a Dom.  If she wants someone who can adapt to situations, have a sense of humor about himself, balance gentleness with toughness, understanding with strictness ... then she's gotta look a little harder & be a bit more discriminating.


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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/13/2006 10:05:08 PM   
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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/13/2006 10:08:37 PM   
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so what is this mysterious quality of being "strong" and what does it mean to a sub or slave?


Strength, to me, means that he's quietly sure of himself and in command of his surroundings.  It also means he is above petty quarrels and not easily ruffled by those who attempt to antagonize him. 

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 3:14:46 AM   
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The first thing that popped into my head is no-nonsense kind of guy. Im thinking along the lines of total power exchange; say iron fist rule. But that’s just what crossed my mind with the simple phrase “strong Dom.”
But I agree with what’s been said about they have chemistry so she likes him with the whole bit you added about he seems weak and sleazy. She’s just saying that because she likes them lol.

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 3:25:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		A truely strong person is confident enough in their strength to not feel any need to have to prove it.

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 3:27:22 AM   
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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 4:28:47 AM   
agirl


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Status: offline 		 I consider my Master a *strong* man.........but not because he has said it or because anyone ELSE might consider him so.... but because he's proved consistantly, that he can carry the responsibility of owning me in every situation, every circumstance that has arisen over a very long time.

Regards, agirl

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 4:43:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I consider a strong dom as one who has strength of character.  One that has integrity and lives his life that way.  It has nothing to do with false machismo.  He must stick to his guns when he makes a decision and not be swayed by feminine wiles or verbose rationalizations (smile) He could be built like a weightlifter, but if he is a pushover, i would not consider him a strong dom. 

I think generally, it has to do with perception, though.  Strength is in the eyes of the beholder.

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 5:16:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		To me, the term strong Dominant has nothing to do with physical strength and everything to do with strength of dominance, which to me is referenced in another thread on personal presence or positional power. There are some Dominants who exclude a very strong Dominant energy and others who do not do so on a regular basis. It may just all come down to chemistry.

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 5:42:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Or, maybe he can bench press 600 pounds.

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 7:25:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Strong is a reletive term i think.  My Master is strong physically.  I always feel safe wrapped in his arms.   Master also has a strength of self confidence which i find to be an asset .  i guess it all depends on your point of view.

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 1:06:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		This friend of yours may toss around the adjective "strong" the way others use "twue". It is meaningless because it is defined in the eye of the beholder.

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 1:17:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Strong= whatever turns you on

weak= everything else.

< Message edited by Caretakr -- 7/14/2006 1:18:09 PM >

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RE: Strong Doms / Masters - 7/14/2006 2:08:04 PM   
raiken


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Status: offline 		For me, in regard to dominance, "strong" is how i would define a person's strength of character and how they were able to successfully and gently but firmly assert their dominance over me personally.  On the flip side, i have been referred to by several dominants, as a "strong submissive/slave" and never really understood exactly what each of them meant by that reference either.  i remember hearing one of my friends say that they would rather have a strong sub then a weak slave...ah...so many terms and adjectives thrown around.  i like what one poster said about how it is "the my chemistry is attracted to your chemistry" type thing.  i also agree that what may seem a dominant attribute to one may seem weak or even impish to another. *smile  i guess when terms are used, there has to be a general definition that is agreed upon, so that those who are using those terms are on the same page.  i also feel that there are those who will bring out another's Dom or sub tendencies, or bring out tendencies that were latent, in other words the person wasn't consciously excercising them until they met that certain someone with that certain chemistry and energy to bring them out.  Ah i think i am starting to ramble..so i will stop here. *smile
 
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