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ive not seen the movie, but I just finished the book. on the whole I have a hard time stomaching bill maher, but he makes an interesting point here:
"...Maher countered, adding, “I’m just saying, the idea that Americans can not see any ambiguity, that somebody has to be either ‘pure hero’ or ‘pure traitor,’ is ridiculous.”
the townhall article here does an interesting job of discussing how both sides of the political spectrum are using (or even need) the movie to be much more than about chris kyle:
http://townhall.com/columnists/jackkerwick/2015/01/26/chris-kyle-symbol-for-all-ideologues-n1947998
"But in promoting and convincing legions of enthusiastic movie goers that Kyle is this generation’s version of General Washington and Audie Murphy, that he is a war hero extraordinaire who risked his life in Iraq so that we can be free, the war’s supporters can hope to persuade Americans that Iraq wasn’t only a just cause; it was a necessary one: No Iraq War, no more American freedom."
"...for those on the recognizable left, Kyle has become the most potent of symbols, the single greatest threat to their agenda to “fundamentally transform” both America and the West....Chris Kyle was white. He was heterosexual—(with a wife and children to boot!). Kyle was a professing Christian. And—get ready for it—he was a Southerner! But it gets even worse for the left. Kyle wasn’t just from any old Southern state: He was a resident of Texas, quite possibly the most conservative state in the Union."
"Indeed, the real Chris Kyle is gone in more ways than one. He is, for the moment, at any rate, a symbol for all ideologues."
that said, john Hawkins at townhall has some points as to why liberals have a problem with the movie and with chris kyle.
1) Soldiers tend to be conservative
"Liberals might not have a problem with traitors like Bradley Manning, deserters like Bowe Bergdahl or dirtbags like John Kerry who condemn their fellow soldiers (“randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan”), but they don’t like conservative soldiers any more than they like conservative Tea Partiers."
2) Soldiers tend to be patriotic
"The sad truth is that most liberals don’t like America very much. When they think of America, they don’t think of waving flags, a city on a hill and “the land of the free,” they think of a rotten country they want to change before it hurts more people. The idea that there are people out there who are willing to die for this country because they think it’s such a great place is like a thumb in the eye for people who read Noam Chomsky, like Jane Fonda, and wish we could be more like Belgium."
3) Soldiers kill people
"Certainly liberals like Bill Maher would NEVER kill people….because men like Chris Kyle do it for them and the rest of us so we can stay safe. Some of us appreciate that. Liberals don’t – which is why they need to be reminded that George Orwell was right when he said, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
4) Liberals are Utopian thinkers
"The reason that Jack Nicholson’s famous speech from A Few Good Men resonated with so many people, even though he was a bad guy in the movie, is that what he said is such a perfect response to armchair critics who want the freedom our soldiers insure without doing the dirty, dangerous and messy work they have to do to provide it."
5) Liberals view our troops as the moral equivalent of the people they’re fighting:
"Liberals were very upset that Chris Kyle referred to the people we were fighting in Iraq as “savages.” Of course, if people who deliberately murder civilians, use their children as suicide bombers and inflict power drills and beheading on captives aren’t savages, then the word has no meaning. Unfortunately, liberals have become so reluctant to make moral judgments that they are simply unable to see the differences between our troops and the people they’re fighting."
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You mean his apology wasnt real? - 
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