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BamaD -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/9/2015 9:03:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Wrong again,you can't get anything right,people WITH guns....there's the problem too many people with too many guns.

Wrong again, you can't get anything right, people with no values, there's the problem too many people with no values.




Kirata -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/9/2015 9:24:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

I should really get out a larger spoon... Yes, I thought to stir the pot. But I'm just pointing out the wording of laws that are already in the book. And, how the existing laws can, and are, applied in rather silly manners.

Yeah, I'm afraid we've gone off the track. Get out the big spoon. [:)]

K.





quizzicalkitten -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 5:08:37 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Wrong again,you can't get anything right,people WITH guns....there's the problem too many people with too many guns.



If thats the case, why did only a few people die? I mean there are something like a billion guns in the US. Why did only five people die.

Oh wait thats right the person with the intent holding the gun.... did the deed.

theres also the fact that he wasnt legally allowed to have the gun because of the DV order against him

quote:


The judge ordered Prather to stay away from Andrews and her home. Meetings for him to pick up and drop off the children were to take place in the Douglasville Police Department parking lot, according to the order, which expired Oct. 9.


http://news.yahoo.com/5-dead-authorities-release-more-details-ga-shooting-100904227.html




Musicmystery -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 5:20:49 AM)

There are 30 billion guns in the US -- roughly 90 guns per person.

I'm thinking that oughta do us . . .





joether -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 6:05:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Wrong again,you can't get anything right,people WITH guns....there's the problem too many people with too many guns.

Wrong again, you can't get anything right, people with no values, there's the problem too many people with no values.


An who judges who has 'good moral values'? Religious nuts? Gun nuts? Tea Party nuts? 'The Moral Police'?

The President of the United States of America, has good moral beliefs on firearms, and you diss him everyday!




BitYakin -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 6:22:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

There are 30 billion guns in the US -- roughly 90 guns per person.

I'm thinking that oughta do us . . .




you are either a liar or a moron, all reasonable estimates say there is less than 1 gun per person, even if you DOUBLE those estimates its still less than 2 per person

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

http://www.numberof.net/number-of-guns-in-america/

even the higher estimates AKA anti gun sites only list it at a 1 : 1 ratio

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states

http://www.gunfaq.org/2013/03/how-many-guns-in-the-united-states/




joether -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 6:25:47 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech
I should really get out a larger spoon... Yes, I thought to stir the pot. But I'm just pointing out the wording of laws that are already in the book. And, how the existing laws can, and are, applied in rather silly manners. (Call the cops! The kid brought a pallette KNIFE to art class.

There is nothing in the legal code that says a knife has to be sharp, just be a knife of a sufficient size to qualify as a deadly weapon.

Consider how draconian the laws can be interpreted. In many places such laws have been on the books since the 19th century.


Ok, since we are going down 'silly lane' lets just take it to the logical conclusion.

What created the knife? The gun? The atomonic bomb? VX gas? and the right wing tea party?

The Human brain. That which controls all but requires all to survive. So we just remove that which creates aggression in the brain and the problem is solved, right?

Back in reality....

Your stirring the pot without a useful argument. If I'm holding a stick, two feet long and quarter of an inch round, made of basal wood....that's a deadly weapon. This is according to your 'interpretation' of reality and law. But the guy that is a black belt in three martial arts, is not that deadly with his hands, right?

Got a legal definition of the concept known as 'knife'? Here are two dictionary definitions to the word 'knife':

Dictionary.com
1. an instrument for cutting, consisting essentially of a thin, sharp-edged, metal blade fitted with a handle.
2. a knife like weapon; dagger or short sword.
3. any blade for cutting, as in a tool or machine.

The Free Dictionary
1. A cutting instrument consisting of a sharp blade attached to a handle.
2. A cutting edge; a blade.

Gosh, both those sets of defintions have this word 'cutting' in there. Do I...really....have to give the definition to the word 'cutting'? Or has your intelligence and education been insulted enough with the word 'knife'? Since a synonym of 'cutting' is 'sharp' and 'piercing'. While an antonym of 'cutting' is 'blunt' and 'dull'.

Yeah, I could 'cut' through a piece of thick leather with a butter knife in a few hours; or just use a sharp knife and be through it in a few seconds.





joether -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 6:35:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata
quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech
I should really get out a larger spoon... Yes, I thought to stir the pot. But I'm just pointing out the wording of laws that are already in the book. And, how the existing laws can, and are, applied in rather silly manners.

Yeah, I'm afraid we've gone off the track. Get out the big spoon. [:)]


You hear that MercTech? Kirata has some serious love for you. He wants you to wipe out that big, strong, throbbing....spoon....and spank his ass with it. Then just bend him over...and....spoon him!

Guys, please take your session to mail or something. Not here....




BamaD -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 6:37:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Wrong again,you can't get anything right,people WITH guns....there's the problem too many people with too many guns.

Wrong again, you can't get anything right, people with no values, there's the problem too many people with no values.


An who judges who has 'good moral values'? Religious nuts? Gun nuts? Tea Party nuts? 'The Moral Police'?

The President of the United States of America, has good moral beliefs on firearms, and you diss him everyday!

I think if you put no value on human life that qualifies as not having values.
Believing you can take whatever you want from whoever you want qualifies as not having values.
Get the idea.
Note I didn't say moral, you added that so you could paint an inaccurate picture of me. I was talking about social values. Don't give me a tirade about how only liberals have social values. Conservatives have them to, in fact we want to get to much the same place liberals do we just want to take a different approach to getting there.
And the president has a rotten view of firearms, also I go most days without mentioning him.
I know your "refutation" of what I said sounded good in your head, it is just a shame you didn't even refer to what I actually said.




BitYakin -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 6:38:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Wrong again,you can't get anything right,people WITH guns....there's the problem too many people with too many guns.

Wrong again, you can't get anything right, people with no values, there's the problem too many people with no values.


An who judges who has 'good moral values'? Religious nuts? Gun nuts? Tea Party nuts? 'The Moral Police'?

The President of the United States of America, has good moral beliefs on firearms, and you diss him everyday!


once again you prove you DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM...

as in its not the number of guns but the number of people with low moral values...

your way of thinking says the way to fix a leaking faucet is to discontinue the water service to the house rather than fix the faucet...

and you'd be one of the people that says teaching moral values AKA religion in schools should NOT BE ALLOWED...

I am curious, what would your solution to this MORAL VALUE problem be???

surely you don't think kids should be spanked/beaten right? nor do you want to allow a system that says BE GOOD or you'll go to hell. so how do you propose the issue be fixed?




BamaD -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 6:40:37 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech
I should really get out a larger spoon... Yes, I thought to stir the pot. But I'm just pointing out the wording of laws that are already in the book. And, how the existing laws can, and are, applied in rather silly manners. (Call the cops! The kid brought a pallette KNIFE to art class.

There is nothing in the legal code that says a knife has to be sharp, just be a knife of a sufficient size to qualify as a deadly weapon.

Consider how draconian the laws can be interpreted. In many places such laws have been on the books since the 19th century.


Ok, since we are going down 'silly lane' lets just take it to the logical conclusion.

What created the knife? The gun? The atomonic bomb? VX gas? and the right wing tea party?

The Human brain. That which controls all but requires all to survive. So we just remove that which creates aggression in the brain and the problem is solved, right?

Back in reality....

Your stirring the pot without a useful argument. If I'm holding a stick, two feet long and quarter of an inch round, made of basal wood....that's a deadly weapon. This is according to your 'interpretation' of reality and law. But the guy that is a black belt in three martial arts, is not that deadly with his hands, right?

Got a legal definition of the concept known as 'knife'? Here are two dictionary definitions to the word 'knife':

Dictionary.com
1. an instrument for cutting, consisting essentially of a thin, sharp-edged, metal blade fitted with a handle.
2. a knife like weapon; dagger or short sword.
3. any blade for cutting, as in a tool or machine.

The Free Dictionary
1. A cutting instrument consisting of a sharp blade attached to a handle.
2. A cutting edge; a blade.

Gosh, both those sets of defintions have this word 'cutting' in there. Do I...really....have to give the definition to the word 'cutting'? Or has your intelligence and education been insulted enough with the word 'knife'? Since a synonym of 'cutting' is 'sharp' and 'piercing'. While an antonym of 'cutting' is 'blunt' and 'dull'.

Yeah, I could 'cut' through a piece of thick leather with a butter knife in a few hours; or just use a sharp knife and be through it in a few seconds.



You finally got to the truth, as usual without realizing it, the real weapon is the human brain, it will just adapt to the tools that are available.




BitYakin -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 6:43:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech
I should really get out a larger spoon... Yes, I thought to stir the pot. But I'm just pointing out the wording of laws that are already in the book. And, how the existing laws can, and are, applied in rather silly manners. (Call the cops! The kid brought a pallette KNIFE to art class.

There is nothing in the legal code that says a knife has to be sharp, just be a knife of a sufficient size to qualify as a deadly weapon.

Consider how draconian the laws can be interpreted. In many places such laws have been on the books since the 19th century.


Ok, since we are going down 'silly lane' lets just take it to the logical conclusion.

What created the knife? The gun? The atomonic bomb? VX gas? and the right wing tea party?

The Human brain. That which controls all but requires all to survive. So we just remove that which creates aggression in the brain and the problem is solved, right?

Back in reality....

Your stirring the pot without a useful argument. If I'm holding a stick, two feet long and quarter of an inch round, made of basal wood....that's a deadly weapon. This is according to your 'interpretation' of reality and law. But the guy that is a black belt in three martial arts, is not that deadly with his hands, right?

Got a legal definition of the concept known as 'knife'? Here are two dictionary definitions to the word 'knife':

Dictionary.com
1. an instrument for cutting, consisting essentially of a thin, sharp-edged, metal blade fitted with a handle.
2. a knife like weapon; dagger or short sword.
3. any blade for cutting, as in a tool or machine.

The Free Dictionary
1. A cutting instrument consisting of a sharp blade attached to a handle.
2. A cutting edge; a blade.

Gosh, both those sets of defintions have this word 'cutting' in there. Do I...really....have to give the definition to the word 'cutting'? Or has your intelligence and education been insulted enough with the word 'knife'? Since a synonym of 'cutting' is 'sharp' and 'piercing'. While an antonym of 'cutting' is 'blunt' and 'dull'.

Yeah, I could 'cut' through a piece of thick leather with a butter knife in a few hours; or just use a sharp knife and be through it in a few seconds.





guess you never heard of being cut with a dull knife either?

PS. so many here have gotten off track of a KEY COMPONENT of the OP CONCEALED

so many of the things people here have mentioned are not and cannot be CONCEALED, as in you WHOLE SELF regarding your KUNG FU comment

you say butter knives wouldn't count, well myself and a friend of mine used to be quite into throwing knives, we'd practice (for fun) throwing butter knives, forks and yes spoons too. I promise you I can easily stick a butter knife in solid wood, usually a fork, and occasionally a spoon




thishereboi -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 7:09:57 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata
quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech
I should really get out a larger spoon... Yes, I thought to stir the pot. But I'm just pointing out the wording of laws that are already in the book. And, how the existing laws can, and are, applied in rather silly manners.

Yeah, I'm afraid we've gone off the track. Get out the big spoon. [:)]


You hear that MercTech? Kirata has some serious love for you. He wants you to wipe out that big, strong, throbbing....spoon....and spank his ass with it. Then just bend him over...and....spoon him!

Guys, please take your session to mail or something. Not here....


Do you often fantasize about the men on here having sex or is it only K that sparks your interest?

And do you honestly think your cutlery fantasies add anything to the thread?




CreativeDominant -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 7:28:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Wrong again,you can't get anything right,people WITH guns....there's the problem too many people with too many guns.

Wrong again, you can't get anything right, people with no values, there's the problem too many people with no values.

An who judges who has 'good moral values'? Religious nuts? Gun nuts? Tea Party nuts? 'The Moral Police'?

The President of the United States of America, has good moral beliefs on firearms, and you diss him everyday!
He has "good moral beliefs on firearms" because you AGREE with them. If he was one of those rare types...a liberal in favor of the gun control measures there already are...you'd make no such claim.

By the way, did you ever get it straight in your head who started the thread?




Politesub53 -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 9:08:12 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Meanwhile 5 people died and two more were injured in a shooting incident in Georgia this weekend.

No problems with guns though, so lets just carry on. [8|]

Holy shit, more guns going off by themselves? Well that settles it. Firearms manufacturers need to take some responsibility and recall these flawed designs for a fix.

K.



Just keep ignoring the body count K, that should fix things[8|].




joether -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 11:17:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitYakin
quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Wrong again,you can't get anything right,people WITH guns....there's the problem too many people with too many guns.

Wrong again, you can't get anything right, people with no values, there's the problem too many people with no values.


An who judges who has 'good moral values'? Religious nuts? Gun nuts? Tea Party nuts? 'The Moral Police'?

The President of the United States of America, has good moral beliefs on firearms, and you diss him everyday!


once again you prove you DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM...

as in its not the number of guns but the number of people with low moral values...

your way of thinking says the way to fix a leaking faucet is to discontinue the water service to the house rather than fix the faucet...

and you'd be one of the people that says teaching moral values AKA religion in schools should NOT BE ALLOWED...

I am curious, what would your solution to this MORAL VALUE problem be???

surely you don't think kids should be spanked/beaten right? nor do you want to allow a system that says BE GOOD or you'll go to hell. so how do you propose the issue be fixed?


You dont answer any of my questions. Nor deal with the viewpoints in this reality. I have no reason to even entertain you any further until you do. That you go from one extreme to another without the ability to consider the middle between has always been your problem.




joether -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 11:20:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
quote:

ORIGINAL: joether
quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Wrong again,you can't get anything right,people WITH guns....there's the problem too many people with too many guns.

Wrong again, you can't get anything right, people with no values, there's the problem too many people with no values.

An who judges who has 'good moral values'? Religious nuts? Gun nuts? Tea Party nuts? 'The Moral Police'?

The President of the United States of America, has good moral beliefs on firearms, and you diss him everyday!
He has "good moral beliefs on firearms" because you AGREE with them. If he was one of those rare types...a liberal in favor of the gun control measures there already are...you'd make no such claim.

By the way, did you ever get it straight in your head who started the thread?


I dont agree with all the President's views on firearms. In some areas we agree and in others we do not. I can understand his viewpoint(s) and supporting thoughts whether I agree or disagree with the man. That you cant, really does state quite a bit.




SinFix -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 11:26:43 AM)

I usually just read this section and never comment but with this thread I wanted to share a tidbit about concealed weapons...

My ex husband about 6-7 years ago was arrested on concealed deadly weapons charges.. He was in his truck, the smaller kind with an extended cab. He was pulled over at about 4:30 in the morning on his way to work (cop pulled him over cause the license plate light was out), cop was about to give him warning when I guess out of the corner of his eye he catches sight of the wood handle of a flail in a box in the area behind the drivers seat. My ex was pulled out of the truck for a search and yep, was charged for the flail along with a 18" section of grounding wire that had been bent over at the end and ex used to break open boxes to fold them up when they were empty (the wire was found under the passenger side seat).. The police ignored the blade that was on a magnet on the ceiling of the truck. I added a pic of the grounding wire to give you an idea of what I am talking about...

So yes anything that they can deem as deadly and is not in plain sight can be considered a concealed deadly weapon.

[image]http://www.hiwtc.com/photo/products/8/07/62/76224.jpg[/image]




CreativeDominant -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 12:24:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
quote:

ORIGINAL: joether
quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Wrong again,you can't get anything right,people WITH guns....there's the problem too many people with too many guns.

Wrong again, you can't get anything right, people with no values, there's the problem too many people with no values.

An who judges who has 'good moral values'? Religious nuts? Gun nuts? Tea Party nuts? 'The Moral Police'?

The President of the United States of America, has good moral beliefs on firearms, and you diss him everyday!
He has "good moral beliefs on firearms" because you AGREE with them. If he was one of those rare types...a liberal in favor of the gun control measures there already are...you'd make no such claim.

By the way, did you ever get it straight in your head who started the thread?


I dont agree with all the President's views on firearms. In some areas we agree and in others we do not. I can understand his viewpoint(s) and supporting thoughts whether I agree or disagree with the man. That you cant, really does state quite a bit.
Other than the fact that he upholds an individual right to gun ownership, the rest his stance is all too familiar. He's better at clouding it than you but he certainly has no problem with states instituting any gun law right up to the point of taking them away.

The fact that you would go further...despite your description of his "good moral viewpoints"...really does states quite a bit about your "rationality" when it comes to this subject.




BitYakin -> RE: Concealed Carry & Steak Knives... (2/10/2015 3:18:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitYakin
quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Wrong again,you can't get anything right,people WITH guns....there's the problem too many people with too many guns.

Wrong again, you can't get anything right, people with no values, there's the problem too many people with no values.


An who judges who has 'good moral values'? Religious nuts? Gun nuts? Tea Party nuts? 'The Moral Police'?

The President of the United States of America, has good moral beliefs on firearms, and you diss him everyday!


once again you prove you DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM...

as in its not the number of guns but the number of people with low moral values...

your way of thinking says the way to fix a leaking faucet is to discontinue the water service to the house rather than fix the faucet...

and you'd be one of the people that says teaching moral values AKA religion in schools should NOT BE ALLOWED...

I am curious, what would your solution to this MORAL VALUE problem be???

surely you don't think kids should be spanked/beaten right? nor do you want to allow a system that says BE GOOD or you'll go to hell. so how do you propose the issue be fixed?


You dont answer any of my questions. Nor deal with the viewpoints in this reality. I have no reason to even entertain you any further until you do. That you go from one extreme to another without the ability to consider the middle between has always been your problem.

question? what question?

please refer me to the question you asked and I'll try to answer...

you won't LIKE my answer and therefore claim I am "OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY" so some other such weak ass argument, but I'll answer

I notice you completely IGNORED my question though...

I'll go back threw the thread and look for question marks in your posts...





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