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joether -> RE: Good Points on Firearms (2/10/2015 2:29:34 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: joether
No, firearm ownership is not a Constitutional Right (at the individual level).
The whole of the Bill (of Rights) is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals ~Albert Gallatin
The great object is that every man be armed ~Patrick Henry
The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed ~Alexander Hamilton
As discussed earlier, the "militia" itself referred to a concept of a universally armed people, not to any specifically organized unit. When the framers referred to the equivalent of our National Guard, they uniformly used the term "select militia" and distinguished this from "militia". Indeed, the debates over the Constitution constantly referred to organized militia units as a threat to freedom comparable to that of a standing army, and stressed that such organized units did not constitute, and indeed were philosophically opposed to, the concept of a militia... The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner. ~Report of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on the Constitution
The Court reached this conclusion after a textual analysis of the Amendment, an examination of the historical use of prefatory phrases in statutes, and a detailed exploration of the 18th century meaning of phrases found in the Amendment... Finally, the Court reviewed contemporaneous state constitutions, post-enactment commentary, and subsequent case law to conclude that the purpose of the right to keep and bear arms extended beyond the context of militia service to include self-defense. ~S. Doc. 112-9 - Constitution of the United States of America: Analysis, and Interpretation
What happens when Americans say "No More"?
Like with slavery? Segregation? Women not allowed to vote? The McCarthy Hearings? The Vietnam War? Lying Tobacco Industry? Americans with Disabilities? GLBT rights? Gay Marriage?
For every school shooting, every massacre, every workplace explosion, and every street rocked by violence; firearms are being outdated. More and more people stop giving a shit about your viewpoints and say in one collective voice "NO MORE!". An that is when the 2nd gets heavily modified or nullified. History and time are on my side. There will no doubtfully (and unfortunately) be more school shootings, massacres, workplace explosions, and streets rocked by violence. And more Americans will be tired of the bullshit and excuses. They wont care what you think a right is or isnt. They vote too!
Patrick Henry had a recorded 78 slaves. Different culture, different viewpoints, and a different age. Do you support black slavery there Kirata? I'm sure there are a few on here who would....REALLY...like to know that. I'm a white guy, so I'm not one of them.
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