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bounty44 -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/13/2015 7:13:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Scott Walker in 2015 has proposed slashing The University of Wisconsin System budget by 13%.

Scott Walker, a Presidential Candidate who values education and investing in America's future.


scott walker, a presidential candidate who believes in fiscal responsibility.

"According to the spending breakdown here, between 2006-2007 and 2011-12, administrative spending the University of Wisconsin dropped from $67,298,831 to $66,995,697, a cut of $303,134 or 0.5%.

"But at the same time, spending on instruction was slashed from $633,483,020 to $601,254,569 --- a cut of $32,228,450 or 5.1%. In other words spending on teaching students was cut at a rate more than 10 times higher than cuts to administration. You might want to check the fat there...

"At some point universities need to prioritize their programs, recognizing that adding extraneous programs results "in a substantial diminution of resources for existing programs," and the "price for academic bloat for all is impoverishment of each...

"UW’s building boom continues, with work beginning on a new ambitious master plan. Legislators might want to scrutinize the plan to and separate the essential from the Taj-Mahal Syndrome projects"

http://www.rightwisconsin.com/featured/about-that-uw-bloat-290996411.html


some perspective:

"Proposed cuts are a small slice of the overall revenue, and private businesses deal with bigger swings all the time...

"The overall budget for the UW System is $6,098 million per year. (Another way of saying $6.1 billion.) The $150 million cut per year represents about 2.5 percent of the total yearly operating budget. I understand that not all of these funds are "accessible" and many are already committed in "cost-to-continue" operations. Many small and large businesses experience much greater fluctuations than this — and they survive and even thrive. A 2.5 percent cut certainly does not constitute the "end" of a very resilient UW System!"

(so never minding that the majority of the operating costs of a university do not come from the state directly)

http://www.marshfieldnewsherald.com/story/opinion/2015/02/09/bob-kulp-uw-system-budget-cuts-perspective/23104937/


and if we really want to take a good look at whats going on in universities around the country, this gives some wonderful insight:

Getting What You Pay For? a Look at America’s Top-Ranked Public Universities

"For too long, many higher education leaders have blamed state funding cuts, and state funding cuts alone, for the steep and steady upward trend in tuition. This report will look at some other culprits:
broken faculty reward systems that push teaching responsibilities ever downward, runaway executive salaries and administrative bloat, and the campus
building boom that continues to add underutilized physical facilities...

"According to the National Survey of Student Engagement, 34% of college seniors at research-intensive universities study ten hours per week or less, while 54% study 15 hours or less.
Despite reports showing that undergraduates are studying and learning less and less in their four years at college, their GPAs are increasing..."

"Employers who complain that newly-hired college graduates lack the skill and selfdiscipline to be effective will find much of the cause in the relatively low level of expectation for student work
set at colleges and universities...

"According to a survey of over 30,000 freshmen on 76 campuses, students who consumed at least one drink in the last two weeks spent an average of 10.2 hours a week drinking, versus
an average of 8.4 hours a week studying...

"Of the public universities in this report, only four merited the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education’s “green light” rating, meaning no serious threat to free speech...

"In-state tuition at the top 52 public universities, on average, rose 31% from 2007-08 to 2012-13, after adjusting for inflation...

"[T]he sad reality is that at more than half of these schools, notwithstanding the recession, growth in administrative spending outpaced growth in instructional spending."

"32 of the institutions in this study pay their president or chancellor a salary that equals or exceeds that of the President of the United States. Public universities in Division I of the NCAA now spend
three to six times as much on athletics per athlete than they spend on academics per student..."

and a good point to close on:

"The limited data on teaching loads collected by the federal government fails to provide the public and policymakers with sufficient information to ensure that faculty time—
universities’ most precious resource—is being used in a cost-effective manner..."


http://www.goacta.org/images/download/getting_what_you_pay_for.pdf





Musicmystery -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/13/2015 7:16:29 AM)

See, in your myopia, you've actually laid out the key problem but don't even know it.

Colleges are ALWAYS crying about money. And yet they ALWAYS have money for building projects -- as does the UW.

Where are the cuts there????

This is political theater.




bounty44 -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/13/2015 7:12:20 PM)

just heard that howard dean was also highlighting the fact that scott walker doesn't have a college degree. some folks on the right in the media are taking that as a sign that the democrats are considering him as a serious candidate.

in the meantime, walker has been pointing out how we might not have apple, Microsoft or facebook if "everyone completed college."




Musicmystery -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/13/2015 7:13:50 PM)

Good luck with that.




slvemike4u -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/14/2015 5:17:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


(Now that we have a Republican front runner...)

From the Washington Post:

quote:

As Scott Walker mulls White House bid, questions linger over college exit

MILWAUKEE — Scott Walker was gone. Dropped out. And in the spring of his senior year.

In 1990, that news stunned his friends at Marquette University. Walker, the campus’s suit-wearing, Reagan-loving politico — who enjoyed the place so much that he had run for student body president — had left without graduating.

To most of the Class of 1990 — and, later, to Wisconsin’s political establishment — Walker’s decision to quit college has been a lingering mystery....


Filed under: Media bias, Double standards, Real journalism is dead, and Enjoy your brainwash, fools.



First off the premise of your thread is flawed....Walker won't last through primary season.He's a non-starter when anyone,mainstream media,John Q. Public ,anyone gets a good long hard look at him.
What the fuck is in the water in Wisconsin is beyond me,when he is done and long out of that office Wisconsans will long be fixing the mess he leaves.




CreativeDominant -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/14/2015 7:59:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


(Now that we have a Republican front runner...)

From the Washington Post:

quote:

As Scott Walker mulls White House bid, questions linger over college exit

MILWAUKEE — Scott Walker was gone. Dropped out. And in the spring of his senior year.

In 1990, that news stunned his friends at Marquette University. Walker, the campus’s suit-wearing, Reagan-loving politico — who enjoyed the place so much that he had run for student body president — had left without graduating.

To most of the Class of 1990 — and, later, to Wisconsin’s political establishment — Walker’s decision to quit college has been a lingering mystery....


Filed under: Media bias, Double standards, Real journalism is dead, and Enjoy your brainwash, fools.



First off the premise of your thread is flawed....Walker won't last through primary season.He's a non-starter when anyone,mainstream media,John Q. Public ,anyone gets a good long hard look at him.
What the fuck is in the water in Wisconsin is beyond me,when he is done and long out of that office Wisconsans will long be fixing the mess he leaves.

Yes...messes like these:

http://m.nationalreview.com/corner/397931/scott-walkers-ingenious-plan-boosting-teacher-quality-reihan-salam

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/promises/walk-o-meter/promise/857/identify-300-million-waste-fraud-and-abuse-state-b/

http://spectator.org/blog/57525/wisconsin-thrives-under-scott-walker




Sanity -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/14/2015 8:09:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Good luck with that.


Because we all know that when considering the qualifications of a presidential candidate, full disclosure of his or her college records is of the highest importance

Unless that candidate is a Democrat




tweakabelle -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/15/2015 1:39:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

Because we all know that when considering the qualifications of a presidential candidate, full disclosure of his or her college records is of the highest importance

Unless that candidate is a Democrat

It is pleasing to see you take such a deep interest in academic accomplishment. While you are there, why not take the opportunity to absorb some of the new and interesting ideas that abound in academia? Heaven knows the ideas you currently expound are so dated and redundant. Some exposure to new ideas can only do you a world of good.




Sanity -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/15/2015 3:03:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It is pleasing to see you take such a deep interest in academic accomplishment. While you are there, why not take the opportunity to absorb some of the new and interesting ideas that abound in academia? Heaven knows the ideas you currently expound are so dated and redundant. Some exposure to new ideas can only do you a world of good.


Thats crazy talk. The world obviously revolves around me

I personally take precedence over any and every topic imaginable

So why would I ever want or need to change

Seriously though... I think its Islam that needs to change

Lopping off peoples' hands and feet as whimsical punishment for minor infractions of Islamic law, stoning women to death as punishment for being raped, female genital mutilation because women are so disgusting to Islam, forcing women and children to strap explosives to themselves and massacre innocents for crimes such as dancing or being non-Muslim...

Murdering those who dare to leave the cult...

I am all about new ideas, and living in this century

Too bad Islam refuses to join me




mnottertail -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/16/2015 7:41:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Good luck with that.


Because we all know that when considering the qualifications of a presidential candidate, full disclosure of his or her college records is of the highest importance

Unless that candidate is a Democrat


No great groundswell exists to find out a great deal about these 14 or 15 idiots who will not be elected dogcatcher.




slvemike4u -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/16/2015 8:57:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It is pleasing to see you take such a deep interest in academic accomplishment. While you are there, why not take the opportunity to absorb some of the new and interesting ideas that abound in academia? Heaven knows the ideas you currently expound are so dated and redundant. Some exposure to new ideas can only do you a world of good.


Thats crazy talk. The world obviously revolves around me

I personally take precedence over any and every topic imaginable

So why would I ever want or need to change

Seriously though... I think its Islam that needs to change

Lopping off peoples' hands and feet as whimsical punishment for minor infractions of Islamic law, stoning women to death as punishment for being raped, female genital mutilation because women are so disgusting to Islam, forcing women and children to strap explosives to themselves and massacre innocents for crimes such as dancing or being non-Muslim...

Murdering those who dare to leave the cult...

I am all about new ideas, and living in this century

Too bad Islam refuses to join me

And people accuse me of derailing ?
Let's discuss guns here too [:D]




Sanity -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/16/2015 10:23:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It is pleasing to see you take such a deep interest in academic accomplishment. While you are there, why not take the opportunity to absorb some of the new and interesting ideas that abound in academia? Heaven knows the ideas you currently expound are so dated and redundant. Some exposure to new ideas can only do you a world of good.


Thats crazy talk. The world obviously revolves around me

I personally take precedence over any and every topic imaginable

So why would I ever want or need to change

Seriously though... I think its Islam that needs to change

Lopping off peoples' hands and feet as whimsical punishment for minor infractions of Islamic law, stoning women to death as punishment for being raped, female genital mutilation because women are so disgusting to Islam, forcing women and children to strap explosives to themselves and massacre innocents for crimes such as dancing or being non-Muslim...

Murdering those who dare to leave the cult...

I am all about new ideas, and living in this century

Too bad Islam refuses to join me

And people accuse me of derailing ?
Let's discuss guns here too [:D]


I am sure you are referring to your and tweakas' efforts to make me the topic...




slvemike4u -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/16/2015 11:41:54 AM)

Nope, despite your delusions, the world does not revolve around your silly self [:D]




Sanity -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/16/2015 11:46:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Nope, despite your delusions, the world does not revolve around your silly self [:D]


Are you deliberately trying to get the thread shut down, mike




slvemike4u -> RE: College Records Finally Exposed!! (2/16/2015 11:56:10 AM)

Lol.too funny.
That is not a tactic of mine,though I do understand there are others that use that very strategy quite well [:D]




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