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joether -> RE: The End of Snow? (2/20/2015 9:12:03 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: UnholyBearquote:
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A good article explaining the cold temperatures much of north america has been experiencing:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/warming-arctic-weird-weather.html
http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/pastglobalwarming
Yet the article from the link I supplied also indicates that global warming could also be a natural cycle that happens on earth and has happened several times over earth's history, especially when you look at global warming from a geological time scale.
You mean, it isn't settled? [:)]
These scientists have said that it is not possible to project global climate accurately enough to justify the ranges projected for temperature and sea-level rise over the next century. They may not conclude specifically that the current IPCC projections are either too high or too low, but that the projections are likely to be inaccurate due to inadequacies of current global climate modeling.David Bellamy, botanist.
Judith Curry, Professor and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.
Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences, Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society
Steven E. Koonin, theoretical physicist and director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University
Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan emeritus professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences
Craig Loehle, ecologist and chief scientist at the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement.
Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics Department at Stockholm University, former chairman of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999–2003)
Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellow Australian National University
Denis Rancourt, former professor of physics at University of Ottawa, research scientist in condensed matter physics, and in environmental and soil science
Peter Stilbs, professor of physical chemistry at Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm
Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London
Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute
Anastasios Tsonis, distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Fritz Vahrenholt, German politician and energy executive with a doctorate in chemistry
Zbigniew Jaworowski, physician and ice core researcher. These scientists have said that the observed warming is more likely to be attributable to natural causes than to human activities. Their views on climate change are usually described in more detail in their biographical articles.Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences
Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Timothy Ball, professor emeritus of geography at the University of Winnipeg
Robert M. Carter, former head of the school of earth sciences at James Cook University
Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa
Chris de Freitas, associate professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland
David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester
Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University
William M. Gray, professor emeritus and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University
William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy, Princeton University
Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo
Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the University of Stockholm.
William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology
David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware
Anthony Lupo, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Missouri
Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa
Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada.
Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of mining geology, the University of Adelaide.
Arthur B. Robinson, American politician, biochemist and former faculty member at the University of California, San Diego
Murry Salby, atmospheric scientist, former professor at Macquarie University
Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke University
Tom Segalstad, geologist; associate professor at University of Oslo
Nir Shaviv, professor of physics focusing on astrophysics and climate science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia
Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Roy Spencer, meteorologist; principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville
Henrik Svensmark, physicist, Danish National Space Center
George H. Taylor, retired director of the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University
Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa These scientists have said that no principal cause can be ascribed to the observed rising temperatures, whether man-made or natural.Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and founding director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks.
Claude Allègre, French politician; geochemist, emeritus professor at Institute of Geophysics (Paris).
Robert Balling, a professor of geography at Arizona State University.
John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, contributor to several IPCC reports.
Petr Chylek, space and remote sensing sciences researcher, Los Alamos National Laboratory.
David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma.
Ivar Giaever, professor emeritus of physics at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and a Nobel laureate.
Vincent R. Gray, New Zealand physical chemist with expertise in coal ashes
Keith E. Idso, botanist, former adjunct professor of biology at Maricopa County Community College District and the vice president of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change
Antonino Zichichi, emeritus professor of nuclear physics at the University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of Scientists. These scientists have said that projected rising temperatures will be of little impact or a net positive for society or the environment.Craig D. Idso, faculty researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University and founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change
Sherwood B. Idso, former research physicist, USDA Water Conservation Laboratory, and adjunct professor, Arizona State University
Patrick Michaels, senior fellow at the Cato Institute and retired research professor of environmental science at the University of Virginia Source
That you look at a mere 57 individuals that disagree with concept 'Climate Change, without understanding....WHAT...their issues are exactly; is a sad and desperate attempt to still have an argument in this thread. How many scientists exist in the America, Kirata? And the evidence shows many of those support the Theory of Climate Change. Yes, there will be people that disagree with the evidence. There were people that thought the entire atmosphere would burn away if an atomic denotation took place. And people thought it was impossible to duplicate tissue.
What your not understanding of the scientists listed above is not that they completely disagree with climate change. Their disagreements are a whole couple of levels more complicated than what your suggesting. That you will cling onto one of these individuals and say "HA! This person disagrees with the Theory, therefore, the whole there, mountains of evidence, and all your liberal conspiracies are unfounded' is not an argument; just some desperate conservative that has no clue what they're babbling about. I'm just going to save you from getting hard-core bashed by everyone. Its happened on the forums, when this subject has come up. Those that did it, got bashed. It didnt work for them, it will not work for you.
Consensus in science operates a bit differently than you might be used to without an organization of people.Scientist do not leave out the possibility that they haven't discovered something that would disprove the current understanding of climate change. Let's just say for the sake of the argument something did. Scientists (unlike deniers) would sit down and consider the information, and run experiments with this new information. Testing outcomes and forming conclusions on it and how it relates to climate change. Then form a new viewpoint that incorporates the new information with all the other information and move forward again. Science, unlike religion, can self-correct after finding information that doesnt fit with understanding of a concept.
Deniers on the other hand, would see that information as justification that they were right all along. And would be shown as a pack of idiots when the scientist convene to discussion and form a new conceptual idea that puts the new information in with the old.
This will be a very good article for you to study up on.
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