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MissShey -> Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 4:14:32 AM)

Hello all.

Sir - MyMasterStephen - and I both have profiles on here in our pursuit of a unicorn.

Now I know we're not the youngest, prettiest, fittest, most experienced of Dominants, but I do think we offer a fairly attractive package of intelligence, humour and lifestyle. And I understand completely that unicorns are so named for a reason. But I find it mysterious that in five years of looking we've not encountered ONE girl on here who has been genuine enough to meet face-to-face.

I don't spend a huge amount of time on here, but Sir is on here every day and is certainly not shy about trying to start a conversation with anyone He thinks might fit our bill. Although we obviously concentrate on the UK and Spain, He also looks farther afield throughout Europe. But no dice.

Are we doing something wrong? Is there something about our profiles that's offputting to potential submissives? Assuming there are SOME genuine submissive girls on here, what's deterring them from approaching us?

Any thoughtful and thought-provoking responses would be much appreciated.




ExiledTyrant -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 4:25:52 AM)

Shey, if you can disconnect for about 15 minutes and read those profiles you'd then be able to ask yourself, that as a third, would that be attractive to you?

I mean, there may be someone out there that really, really, really wants to be a third wheel, but I am sure they are rare.

Jus sayin




MissShey -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 4:30:21 AM)

Which is exactly why I use and acknowledge the meaning of the term "unicorn".




ExiledTyrant -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 4:36:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MissShey

Which is exactly why I use and acknowledge the meaning of the term "unicorn".


I see...




satanscharmer -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 5:26:08 AM)

My first thought after reading both profiles...
What's in it for me?

I'm not looking, but if I were to become a couple's unicorn, I certainly want my needs and desires met as well.
You both sound as if you want to test things out on the third, I wouldn't want to be someone's experiment.
I like that you want a companion while your sir is away but I'd want to know more about you and your likes. Would I want to really spend time alone with you?

Again, what is in it for me?


ETA: there was a couple profile I saw a while ago, I cannot remember the username, after reading their profile I might have contacted them if I were single. I'm not even one that particularly likes to be a third wheel. What they wrote was a short yet detailed description of what they were looking for AND what they could and wanted to offer. Since she was also looking for a companion while he was away, she included her interests. They both sounded very intelligent, caring, and straight-forward. I wasn't left fearing I'd be locked up in their home and forced into slavery (though, there may be some people into that).




Kittenluv954 -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 5:41:25 AM)

im not sure, the profiles are well written, and neither of you seem creepy. i would not want to be Dommed by a novice (thats you shay), and not entirely sure why you are forcing yourself to become bisexual when you clearly arent. its ok to be straight, and not enjoy women in a sexual way. trust me! combined there are a lot of requirements for a prospective to fill. but i am the same way in my search also, so who can say? i wish you both the best luck in finding her!




NookieNotes -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 6:00:10 AM)

~FR~

Being a third and being a third wheel are two different things.

You're posting the ads like you are looking for hired help, not a real person with feelings, desires, and needs of her own.

You are admitting this is an experiment. That does not sound like a relationship I would want to get into, ever. Yes, all relationships are experiments in many ways, but the use of that word, especially combined with your lack of experience (and not really bi, and your man wanting things from the girl that you can't provide), make it all come together as a not very attractive proposition.

Now, I'll be clear, I don't generally look on CS for unicorns. I have found them mostly through CL and meeting them in person at local events. This is what I write (or a variation) when I post ads:

quote:

I am looking for a submissive female for long-term play and potentially more.

Me:
41yo, 5 foot 6 inches, 36C bust/29 inch waist/41 inch hips, curvy (145#, about a woman's size 8), attractive. Dark hair, dark eyes, fair skin.

I am well-experienced in D/s, and active locally. I have taught and written books on FemDom, BDSM, and I'm working on my next book about training.

I am super-smart and interested in your mind as much as your body. I'm good at sex and sensuality and believe there is more to a successful encounter than a grab for the genitals. Although I play both sides of the dominance/submission game, you will be submissive, and wanting to revel in the deep trust and affection that goes along with offering another your mind, heart, and body.

We'll take it slow. I'm not interested in collaring you within the week, or beating you black and blue on our first meeting (if ever). I am very into the mental aspects of D/s, and I am the primary leader. I will take your mind for a journey of sexual freedom, self-love, and finding yourself in trust and adoration for your domme.


You:
Clean, attractive, engaging, and wanting to be led. Different body types are considered. The spark is the key. I am moderately active, so being able to keep up (and possibly enjoying some woodland scenes) is important.

You enjoy courtship and being treated like a woman, being told you are a good girl, and beautiful, while sparring intellectually, and letting your hair down for fun.

You enjoy spending time with women and men, and feeling that rush of sexual energy running through you all day long.

You get hot texting with your partner to create the sexual tension leading to an intense evening together.

You realize that creating a red hot D/s relationship is often not simple, but it should feel easy, fun and sexy, and the rewards are beyond most people's wildest imaginations.

I also have a male submissive/switch/lover.

He:
Submissive to her, dominant towards other women.
46yo, 5 foot 10 inches, in shape (swimmer/runner's body - 167#), and good-looking in a boy-next-door sort of way. Blond/ginger with blue eyes, fair skin.

You may be a lesbian or not interested in him. That's possible for the right candidate. Although we would love a completely bisexual girl (who finds him attractive), there need not be contact between he and you. There would need to be comfort in nakedness and side-by-side serving, with the understanding that no negotiated boundaries would ever be crossed.

Note:
Consent is critical. As is communication. And affection.
When writing, please introduce yourself, send a photo, and tell me exactly what caught your interest in this post.
If you write without ANY of these three things, I will ask you ONCE. After that, you will be ignored. I prefer someone with an attention to detail and a willingness to perform.

Thank you for reading, and best of luck in fulfilling your fantasies!


Not, I speak directly to her. I tell her WHO I am looking for, not what. I give her ideas of what to expect, and what her role may be with my boy. She knows that she will be told how amazing she is, and that she will be courted. She knows her intellect and affection will be valued.

I post this here because when I have this up, I constantly get feedback on how well-written my ad is, and how it says exactly what I'm looking for.

Hope this helps.




Kittenluv954 -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 6:14:46 AM)

great ad, nookie :)




MissShey -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 6:29:35 AM)

Thank you everyone so far for the input. Interesting points you make, which we'll have to think about.

Just as a point of note... I'm not "forcing" myself to become bi! I genuinely love the idea of playing with a girl as though she were a doll, and of disciplining her if she warranted it: such acts could easily become quite intimate and I'm fine with that. I just have no idea if it could / would ever become overtly sexual.




NookieNotes -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 7:14:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kittenluv954

great ad, nookie :)


Thanks! I love the art of profile writing. LOL!




seekingreality -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/23/2015 6:26:31 PM)

I am not surprised you're not getting a response. You are buyers in a seller's market, and your profile is just a long list of demanding criteria you have. No matter what your odds of success are really small but you'd do better by re-writing your profiles from the perspective of what the woman you are seeking wants/needs/will get from this, rather than what you want/need/will get from this.

Imagine this: You are one of 200 couples who are going to present themselves to a unicorn with a pitch about why she should be interested in you over the 199 other couples. If you had five minutes, what would you say to her?

And the wrong answer is to tell her about all your fetishes and tasks you want her to do for you.




GoddessManko -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/24/2015 7:56:53 AM)

I agree with Nookie. I think it is fair for you both to outline what you are seeking in this individual to allow someone to think "do I fit this mold?" And also that you are making them inclusive to the dynamic vs "come as you are" and leaving people wondering whether or not they would even make the cut. You both should sit down and discuss what type of person you would connect with best. Would you do vanilla activities? Someone who likes fishing? Camping? Card games?
Or would this person be merely for your objectification?
Whatever it is you should outline and then someone will better know if they make the cut. My ex collared and I lived very separate lives apart from when we would cohabitate. So he knew I merely wanted him in service and naught more, and he was happy and content with that. The kink was sort of a "perk" though we played often. I was often also elsewhere in some distant part of the world at any given time.




DesFIP -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/24/2015 12:23:15 PM)

You want someone to give up her job and live full time with you knowing that if you decide you aren't bi after experimenting, she'll be kicked to the curb without any money to get back home and start her life over.

She's never going to be an equal member of the household, always expendable.
I'd be surprised if anyone reading these profiles didn't thank God they weren't involved with you.

There's a poly forum here, go read all the threads there and then ask questions of those who are in long term poly relationships.




orgasmdenial12 -> RE: Advice needed on profiles (2/25/2015 10:18:46 AM)

All I read is what you would expect from a 'girl', and it was very demanding and lengthy. Considering you are not paying her, nor advancing her professional aspects in any degree whatsoever, then all you have to rely on is happening to meet someone who wants to be your unpaid domestic servant and fucktoy. Frankly, it sounds like hard, unpleasurable, demanding work and so it is very unlikely that there is any 'girl' on the planet who simply wants to turn up and provide all of this for you, with no reward for herself. I would suggest either a) paying someone an extremely generous amount of money to be your personal servant and prostitute or b) have a good long, hard look and think about what you can offer someone, why you are good to be with, why sex and s&m with you is fun, why being your domestic servant will be rewarding. What a life with you will offer.

Unicorns (and most single women) are surrounded by couples clamoring for their attention; if you are not the most appealing, interesting, exciting, satisfying offer they have had, then you simply have no chance at all. It's like I could get a sports car for free, so why would I pay £25,000 each year, and put in countless hours of work on something that is difficult and brings me no pleasure?

If you want the unicorn, you need to be the free sports car, simple as.




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