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RE: Full human toilet?? - 7/27/2006 11:08:42 PM

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I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying people would be mad with laws that rule out any BDSM activity, and people would be irate? Or are you saying the laws against sex with the dead or other living people/creatures who cannot give consent is the point where people became irate for not being able to do what they 'want' in those scenarios?

If someone's going to be irate over not being able to molest their child, fuck their dog, dig up a corpse or take advantage of an adult with the mental capacity of a child...hey, let them be angry, and hope they do get caught. I think I'm pretty open minded, as long as there's consent there and it's two adults, I won't judge whatever they choose to do, but there are lines you just don't cross and whether you get caught or not shouldn't be what stops you.

Sex without explicit or implicit consent should blacken one's soul

Dead People NO!

If You get caught then it was never meant to be!

And better if You Do.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 7/29/2006 10:25:48 AM

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I'm monogamous and always verify the health of my Dominant partner. The daily clean exchange of his solids, directly from his full rectum into my mouth, and down my throat, is very gratifying for the Dom and me, and gives me an almost spiritual connection to my Dom.

This is just a form of body worship and an act of ultimate devotion, and not humiliating or degrading to me at all. And, there is absolutely no mess and minimal scent, thanks to the direct exchange, which took some practice. I've never experienced any health issues or negative effects from ingesting excrement or urine, which I do on a daily basis. I know it's not everyone's taste or kink, but I crave it, and enjoy it immensely.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 7/29/2006 3:20:49 PM

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Ok Im sorry but I need to say something here on the health issue Iv seen a few post saying about vacinations against hepatitis and such and knowing your partner is clean and what not... lemme just tell you this isnt true and is a fals sence of sicurity there are a few forms of hepatitis that A)cant be tested for in the blood and B) there are no vaccines for. My mom got a form of hepatitis from a blood transfution. She never wouold have known she had it and would produbly be dead right now if it werent for the fact that she had to have sergery and they saw how big her liver was... they took a sample of the liver and that is how they found it. This hepatitis can only be seen in the liver itself so your prter wont know they have it and there is no vacine for it.. so dont kid yourself eating shit isnt safe just as cutting off your partners leg isnt safe.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 7/29/2006 5:55:03 PM

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An interesting thread, indeed.....
I feel the need to be a "safety policeperson", I'm afraid. But then again this is the health and safety forum....

"Shit contains red blood cells" (or words to that effect from much earlier posts).
In a healthy individual without any kind of gastrointestinal bleed (due to cancer or ulcers for example) - no. Dead and dyeing rbc's are quickly and efficiently removed from the circulation by the spleen as most of the contents are recycled by the body. If they weren't then we would have all learnt how to intake and digest compounds containing vastly greater quantities of iron. Pigments derived from the breakdown of rbc's are secreted into the intestine via bile (and also filtered by the kidneys, which gives urine its color). These pigments are what give feces their color.

Bleeding hemorrhoids (internal) or ulcerous lesions on the lining of the intestine will release blood into the stool, and give rise to the possibility of transmission of viral problems (HIV, Hep etc). Folks may have these lesions and not be aware of them, as the quantity of blood released can be very small and therefore not detectable by normal layman investigation. If you want to be reasonably sure, then you usually need three consecutively negative occult blood checks done via your doc and a reputable lab. And a colonoscopy helps as well....

Yeah to Mr. Warren a while back, for citing the case of Typhoid Mary. I could also pass on the name of a university researcher who deliberately infected himself with Giardia, got horribly sick (as anticipated), but then failed to show symptoms on taking further infective doses. He was trying to prove that a carrier state exists.....

Community acquired Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus aureus. Check out http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dhqp/ar_mrsa_ca.html (nb. MRSA likes to hang out in the rectal area, even in healthy individuals, waiting for an opportunity.....)

Pinworm infections: does your Dom/me have an itchy asshole, particularly at night?
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasites/pinworm/factsht_pinworm.htm

What else? Oh yes, drug resistant Clostridium difficile. If your partner passes this onto you, then pray you don't end up hospitalised for something unrelated, and on antibiotics......
http://www.tufts.edu/med/apua/News/staffbriefing/congbriefingkyed4-1-1pc.pdf

I could go on, but thats more than enough to bore most I suspect.

Coprophagy in horses is due to a vitamin B (usually B1) deficiency, and/or lack of dietary fibre. So humans are certainly not unique (mind you, ask any dog owner!!).

And (off topic), someone asked about homosexuality in other species. Its been observed in the ape species called bonobos, and also in dolphins.....

Forewarned, is forearmed, as they say.....

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 7/31/2006 10:13:53 PM

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Proscatman has said that He has been
doing it for years,
Without any Medical issues.

But as I've stated, what kills me,
may not kill You!

If A Mistress wants a Slave to eat Her Poop
Or Her period and do it everyday and night,
I feel something is bound to happen
Medical wise?

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/1/2006 12:59:39 AM

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Its not safe and that all that needs to be said.. a Master or mistress that loves there sub should not put them in a dangerouse situation remeber SAFE sane and consentual makes up BDSM even if it is consentual if it isnt safe it doesnt pass the muster and thats all

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/1/2006 1:53:53 AM

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Health Risk of Urine Consumption: Drinking urine from a healthy person is in general harmless since urine is sterile naturally by our own filtering system within our bodies. There is though a small risk if the Top/Dominant has a present bacterial infection or a disease is already present although STD's are NOT transmitted by urine. Keep in mind urine does contain high amounts of salt and minerals. So the conclusion is the consumption of urine in limited amounts is harmless with very few health risks. Health Risk of Fecal Consumption: The consumption of human fecal matter has major health risks. Such diseases, bacteria and parasites that can be transmitted is Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C, E-coli, Giardia and Shigella. Because of these health risks KNOW YOUR Top/Dominant. I can not stress how important it is to know the health status and health practices of your partner. If even after the health risks that your still interested in Fecal Consumption I suggest for you to have yourself tested regularly for diseases, get a yearly influenza vaccination as well as a pneumonia vaccination. You can also get vaccinated for Hepatitis A and B. Even though you have now seen precautions you may take and the health risks of fecal consumption remember limited amounts is important. Quite frankly if both people involved know and understand the possible risks in brown and golden consumption the choice to enjoy Toilet Slavery is between them. Ive trained Full Toilets for several years using various methods. From slow progression to force without any problems. Perhaps full toilet slavery is not sane to you....Of course everyone has their own ideas of what is sane. Think about that one. MsPatty

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/1/2006 2:09:26 AM

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I am no one to say what is sane or not I can say waht is safe

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/1/2006 2:26:11 AM

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Safe is such a simple word but has such an impact on life...many things we do daily some would say are not safe.

As for scat consumption yes there are many risks and many of those risks can be avoided by preparing yourself and knowing what risk is involved. And no Im not saying you can prepare yourself for all the risks.

As anything in this life we can be 99% sure we are safe but that little 1 % can bite you in the butt and cause some major damage. If that risk is worth it to you fine...if not don't do it.

How can you, I or anyone else tell another adult what to do with their body? Safe or not its not our judgement call. Its between themselves and God.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/1/2006 6:40:38 AM

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when it comes to safety there is very little that can be left to opinion facts are facts and thats about all

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/1/2006 6:52:42 AM

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when it comes to safety there is very little that can be left to opinion facts are facts and thats about all

I won't agree for a few reasons:

1 Not all facts are proven to the extent people want to accept them. So many studies are done which prove something, and the opposite is proven the next day, that the reliability of many facts is low.

2 Risks are analyzed differently based on life experiences. I, for example, NEVER drive with even a bit of alcohol in my blood. Other people drive with a small amount, others still with lots. And most of us (51%) have never been in an accident invilving a drunk driver.

So even if facts are the way they are, that doesn't mean they are true, and doesn't mean we all see them the same way.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/1/2006 7:53:24 AM

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I'm a full toilet for my Master, have been for a couple of years. Also, He gives me full urine enemas directly inside - have yet to become ill because of it.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/1/2006 8:10:37 AM

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I practice Risk aware consensual kink. So things I do are coldly calculated by thier risk factors.

I'd not advise this be done with non-fluid bonded partners, but if a sceening has been done of both parties for diseases, and the sub has a strong enough immune system to deal with it- I see nothing wrong with the practice.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/1/2006 10:46:42 AM

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I'm a full toilet for my Master, have been for a couple of years. Also, He gives me full urine enemas directly inside - have yet to become ill because of it.

All in do time, all in do time!

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/3/2006 8:14:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: fem4pain

I'm monogamous and always verify the health of my Dominant partner. The daily clean exchange of his solids, directly from his full rectum into my mouth, and down my throat, is very gratifying for the Dom and me,

And some of the readers of this thread. I've never tried toilet training, but it seems pretty hot.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/3/2006 12:51:35 PM

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And some of the readers of this thread. I've never tried toilet training, but it seems pretty hot.

Healthy: Not.
Sick: Yes.

To many Risks involved.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/3/2006 9:01:27 PM

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The mind boggles at how anyone, especially those involved in THIS kind of 'lifestyle', dole out speeches about right, wrong, sick, sane, risky or dangerous.

If there is nothing you do in your life that carries a pretty decent amount of risk, you're likely to be ignoring at least one of the things in life you wish you were doing. Life's too short.

Why is it that people can't just express opinions anymore? Everything has to be so cut & dry and there is the definite vibe of right vs. wrong. It's all just opinions.

I say that of course with one exception, which would be what I outlined more than once now, the consent issue. Without consent from all involved, then I'll stand on my soapbox and call it wrong, otherwise...it's people enjoying themselves in whatever way they see fit and I fail to find the bad side to that.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/5/2006 7:38:19 PM

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This is an area of play my mind just fails to have a synapse connection to under stand it.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/6/2006 7:15:48 AM

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Why do you think it is better to have removed the scat choice? As a full toilet slave, I found that very useful in identifying potential playmates... now, with only "watersports" you never know for sure.

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And in closing, I would like to thank the owners/moderators of this website for their omnipotence in knowing that it is better for all to remove the scat choices from the list of preferences.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 8/6/2006 12:41:19 PM

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This is an area of play my mind just fails to have a synapse connection to under stand it.

Yeah...............it's really, really, really, really, hard to find women out there who are into scat. I tried to go onto an online scat forum once, just to find out that males outmumbered women 10,000/1, and that there weren't ANY gals from the New England are who dug it. It's gross as hell, but it's kind of a huge turn-on. I think that I might puke if I were to actually try it.

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