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Zonie63 -> RE: DOJ Review Finds Bias in Ferguson PD (3/11/2015 11:28:39 AM)
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ORIGINAL: kdsub
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If the politicians are just going to lie and tell the people what they want to hear, along with way too many voters who keep falling for these lies - hook, line, and sinker - then some people might be inclined to say "Why bother?"
You are too jaded Zonie and are a victim I believe of the " If people don't think like me they are fools" syndrome.
Even with the influence of big business on both sides of congress politicians still follow the wishes of the voters... You just have to realize the majority, right now anyway, thinks different than you...and they just may be right on some issues.
There are some issues where my views may be in line with "the majority," while my views on other issues may not be. I don't think that really matters in the grand scheme of things, since all of that tends to balance out with time.
What does matter is that, if shit happens in our country, then We The People have to own it and take responsibility for it. That was the point you were making about the people of Ferguson and what happened in their community, but I see it more as a nationwide phenomenon.
And there are times when "the majority" is wrong. Such as the election of 1972. A few years later, as they were scraping the Nixon bumper stickers off their cars, a lot of Nixon voters claimed "they didn't know he was a crook." If they didn't know, they should've known. This "we didn't know" bullshit just doesn't fly with me, whether it comes from the majority or not.
Maybe I am too jaded, but I certainly don't believe that everyone should think like me. I've never believed that, as I actually enjoy intelligent disagreement and open debate.
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When I say majority I mean the voting public not necessarily the majority of Americans. Those that vote, me included, are usually passionate about an issue or issues and the apathetic public will just have to go along with what the majorities of voters mandate through their votes.
Butch
Fair enough, and in most cases, my general inclination is to accept and abide by the will of the majority, even if it's something I don't agree with. As long as the majority truly believes in something, supports it, and wants to see it come to realization, then by all means. But if they get suckered by lies or support something they didn't adequately think through, then I see no reason why they can't be called on it. Even if they're "the majority," they don't get a pass if they fuck up or make a bad choice which brings consequences upon us all.
I never said that everyone has to agree with me or think like me. I can't imagine whatever gave you that impression. I also don't believe that people who don't think like me are fools. But if someone allows their voting choice to be influenced by a TV commercial and then later on claims "they didn't know," what can I say?
I consider voting to be a great responsibility, something that should not be taken lightly or treated like some kind of circus act. When we vote, we have to make a decision for our country like any President, Prime Minister, or King would have to make. If you were the King of a nation, you would have a great responsibility on your shoulders. When choosing your cabinet and other officials, you'd have to make sure that you really knew who it was that you were choosing. This is how voters should approach the electoral process.
I agree with you regarding the apathetic public and those who are unwilling to cast their vote, but that doesn't mean that those who do vote shouldn't be held accountable for their choices, even if the public has to abide by the will of the majority.
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