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dcnovice -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/8/2015 6:17:08 PM)

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As for the Roman Empire, maybe you should talk to my former inlaws in Italy. LOL They still want to take over the world and appoint a Cesar.

LOL! When I visited Rome in 1983, I was amused by how the manhole covers still say SPQR!




Sanity -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/8/2015 6:29:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

I am sorry Sanity, I thought the subject was Obama Goons to Cricify Top Den Critic. Maybe i was wrong.

As for the Roman Empire, maybe you should talk to my former inlaws in Italy. LOL They still want to take over the world and appoint a Cesar.


Thats the thread topic, the actual conversation drifted somewhat




KenDckey -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/8/2015 6:57:39 PM)

Then maybe it should drift back to the subject. Just askin




bounty44 -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/9/2015 4:44:52 AM)

so then, is it really too far fetched to believe that if menendez were running typical lockstep interference for Obama, that he wouldn't be facing charges right now.

I don't think so for a moment...




Sanity -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/9/2015 10:18:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

so then, is it really too far fetched to believe that if menendez were running typical lockstep interference for Obama, that he wouldn't be facing charges right now.

I don't think so for a moment...


This is kind of refreshing. Some Republicans finally growing a bit of spine:

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Republican senators warn Iran in open letter

In an appearance on “Fox and Friends” Monday morning, Cotton said Iran is a greater threat to the United States than the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and welcomed any Democrats or potential presidential candidates to sign the letter.

“I’d encourage Hillary Clinton to join us,” he said.

The letter, first reported by Bloomberg View columnist Josh Rogin, is meant to turn up the heat on President Barack Obama to give Congress some power over the nuclear negotiations.

“It has come to our attention while observing your nuclear negotiations with our government that you may not fully understand our constitutional system. Thus, we are writing to bring to your attention two features of our Constitution—the power to make binding international agreements and the different character of federal offices—which you should seriously consider as negotiations progress,” the senators wrote. “Anything not approved by Congress is a mere executive agreement.”




Obamas highly questionable foreign policy was a huge part of the reason Americans kicked the Democrat congress to the curb in the last election

I wonder if Menendez has already signed on

Menendez criticizing Obama and his cozy relationship with Iran (and Cuba) was the likely reason Obamas DOJ goon dogs took up Menendez' trail in the first place









mnottertail -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/9/2015 10:38:53 AM)

The rightwing Nazi shiteating goons and thugs of congress are usurping the constitution, as always, treason most foul.




bounty44 -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/9/2015 3:06:45 PM)

maybe if the fellow survives he will change parties...




Politesub53 -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/9/2015 5:33:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

If you think Saudi gives a shit about America or the West think again. You need to take a peak at how all this extremism got started.


The "extremism' was started by Muhammad & Co back in the 600s when Islamists first began hacking their way through more peaceful, civilized people

And had I written anything like like 'Saudi Arabia gives a shit about America or the West' or if it were pertinent to the discussion, you might have a basis for your wild-eyed ranting

You really should consider switching to decaffeinated tea




Sorry bruv, I thought since your post included this ""Distrust in Saudi Arabia toward the United States hasn't been this high since 1973," That you might have been talking about Saudi and the US political scene, how very silly of me to think beacuse your post said "Saudi Arabia" that you didnt actually mean "Saudi Arabia"

Get a fucking grip on reality and get back to me.




bounty44 -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/10/2015 4:40:52 AM)

here are a couple of companion pieces consistent with what we are talking about:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/menendez-charges-obama-weapon/2015/03/07/id/628858/


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-ted-cruz-is-wrong-about-the-menendez-charges/article/2561255




KenDckey -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/10/2015 4:58:44 AM)

Yeah looks more and more like political retribution




Lucylastic -> RE: Obama Goons To Crucify Top Dem Critic (3/10/2015 6:54:21 AM)

LMFAO only to conspiracy nuts:)
Cruz finds a new conspiracy theory to play with
03/09/15 10:02 AM
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By Steve Benen
When reports surfaced last week that Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) may face criminal charges as part of a federal corruption probe, it seemed like a possible opportunity for Republicans. Because so many of the recent political scandals have involved GOP officials, I thought Republicans might connect Menendez and Oregon’s John Kitzhaber to make the case there’s something rotten in the Democratic ranks.

But Kasie Hunt reported from Iowa over the weekend that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) has a very different attack in mind.

Cruz also suggested pending federal charges against New Jersey Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez were politically motivated – tied to Menendez’s support for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and opposition to a U.S. deal with Iran over their nuclear program.

“The timing is curious,” Cruz said…. “It raises a suggestion to other Democrats that if you dare part from the Obama White House, that criminal prosecutions will be used potentially as a political weapon as well,” Cruz said. “That’s a serious concern.”

The Texas Republican added, “This investigation has been going on for over a year and yet the very week they announce a pending indictment comes within hours after Sen. Menendez showing courage to speak out against President Obama’s dangerous foreign policy that is risking the national security of this country.”

Greg Sargent noted the other day that he was planning to joke about the right concocting a conspiracy theory involving Menendez, the White House, and Iran, but the mockery was already too late. “They’re already saying,” Greg said.

Satire is tough when some politicians become caricatures of themselves.

In case it’s not obvious, there’s literally nothing to substantiate the conspiracy theory. The investigation into Menendez’s actions began long before the recent debate over U.S. policy towards Iran. For that matter, though Cruz has accused the Justice Department of “announcing a pending indictment,” in reality, there has been no such announcement.

What’s more, there’s no real reason for the Obama administration to even consider such a brazen abuse of federal law enforcement – Menendez disagrees with the White House on Iranian diplomacy, but the New Jersey Democrat is already giving the administration the time it needs to see the process through.

Even as an electoral matter, Cruz’s conspiracy theory is hard to take seriously. The president and Menendez clearly aren’t on the same page when it comes to Iran, but on the vast majority of issues, the senator and Obama agree. Why in the world would the White House try to cut off a fellow Democrat at the knees? Especially given the fact that if Menendez goes, Gov. Chris Christie (R) would appoint a temporary Republican replacement?

But it’s the bigger picture that’s especially alarming. When it comes to political rhetoric and unhinged theorizing, we generally like to think of a separation between the extremes and the mainstream. A party’s activist base may make wild claims, but as a rule, those in positions of power and authority are supposed to be more responsible.

In the Menendez case, it stood to reason that far-right voices in talk radio and conservative blogs might casually raise the specter of a conspiracy, but Ted Cruz is a senator. More is expected of him.

The line between the Republican base and prominent Republican officials has blurred in recent years. Too often, it seems Cruz is eager to erase it altogether.




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