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mnottertail -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 7:31:03 AM)

Are the rightwing Nazi shiteaters actually tolerant and trying to understand the causes of climate change, or are they politically correct lying intolerant ignorant rightwing nazi shiteaters?

The preponderance, by a wide margin of scientists, (and rightwing nazi shiteaters ain't) it there is climate change.

I don't see any evidence of the cretinous rightwing nazi shiteaters tolerance or openness to reasoned, factual, citable, realistic debate.






CreativeDominant -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 8:08:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Are the rightwing Nazi shiteaters actually tolerant and trying to understand the causes of climate change, or are they politically correct lying intolerant ignorant rightwing nazi shiteaters?

The preponderance, by a wide margin of scientists, (and rightwing nazi shiteaters ain't) it there is climate change.

I don't see any evidence of the cretinous rightwing nazi shiteaters tolerance or openness to reasoned, factual, citable, realistic debate.

Given your tendency to insults, your tolerance to disparate viewpoints is easily seen.




mnottertail -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 9:11:34 AM)

What honest consideration does one owe to slobbering fuckwits? The fallacy of reification rightwing Nazi shiteaters deal in is of no consequence. There is no universal 'democratic', 'progressive', 'liberal' property of tolerance. There is no 'republican' 'conservative' 'several more revealing monikers here that because of rightwing Nazi shiteater whining have been banned' while they are still allowed their impugnment deal in.


Where do you get this tolerance from? Lets see actual evidence that this is a either left or right principle, with real data, and not a few anecdotal non-contextual clippings to serve as your synecdoche.

I dont suffer fools gladly, which means I do not suffer you at all.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 3:17:10 PM)


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What honest consideration does one owe to slobbering fuckwits? The fallacy of reification rightwing Nazi shiteaters deal in is of no consequence. There is no universal 'democratic', 'progressive', 'liberal' property of tolerance. There is no 'republican' 'conservative' 'several more revealing monikers here that because of rightwing Nazi shiteater whining have been banned' while they are still allowed their impugnment deal in.


Where do you get this tolerance from? Lets see actual evidence that this is a either left or right principle, with real data, and not a few anecdotal non-contextual clippings to serve as your synecdoche.

I dont suffer fools gladly, which means I do not suffer you at all.
You must be suffering from the minute you become self-aware each morning.




Moderator3 -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 3:28:40 PM)

FR

While we are working on the word filter, I am asking that you all not use those words that you know are not permitted.

Nazi is a word that is most often used to insult people and isn't talking about real Nazi's. I don't know how many times I have to state that it isn't going to be allowed. I'm tired of talking about it. Using the word implies that you are calling people murderers and that is not going to be tolerated.

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bounty44 -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 3:31:56 PM)

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its flabbergasting that this thread has moved past the first page.


The only thing that is flabbergasting are the people who are so completely in denial that they do not even react when the climate conditions have gone from 'unusual' to a repeated pattern of a weather that can only be described as weird.

Right where I am, we've had an entire winter without snow and temperatures between +5 to 8 degrees Celsius. That's 40-48F
When a normal winter during the 1970-80 had 1½ to 2 meters of snow for 7 months and temperatures of -5 to -35. That's 23 to -31F

This used to be 'winterland' but the nearest skislope have gone bankrupt. Snowmobile salesmen still have their machines displayed for sale, but who would buy when there had not been any snow and the temperatures are as high as it is spring thorough the winter.

We've had 5 hurricanes, in a part of the world that used to have none whatsoever, certainly not in the middle of the winter.

And some of you guys still have your head in the sand like an osprey when it is not just 'climate change' but now have switched to an ongoing environmental catastrophy! Jesus, save us from people who manage to get so caught in their own verbal diatribe to be unable to see the facts even when they are just outside the window!








could you maybe please go back and read all the posts I made by and about people who actually work and spend their lives in this field?




Tkman117 -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 4:32:53 PM)

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its flabbergasting that this thread has moved past the first page.


The only thing that is flabbergasting are the people who are so completely in denial that they do not even react when the climate conditions have gone from 'unusual' to a repeated pattern of a weather that can only be described as weird.

Right where I am, we've had an entire winter without snow and temperatures between +5 to 8 degrees Celsius. That's 40-48F
When a normal winter during the 1970-80 had 1½ to 2 meters of snow for 7 months and temperatures of -5 to -35. That's 23 to -31F

This used to be 'winterland' but the nearest skislope have gone bankrupt. Snowmobile salesmen still have their machines displayed for sale, but who would buy when there had not been any snow and the temperatures are as high as it is spring thorough the winter.

We've had 5 hurricanes, in a part of the world that used to have none whatsoever, certainly not in the middle of the winter.

And some of you guys still have your head in the sand like an osprey when it is not just 'climate change' but now have switched to an ongoing environmental catastrophy! Jesus, save us from people who manage to get so caught in their own verbal diatribe to be unable to see the facts even when they are just outside the window!








could you maybe please go back and read all the posts I made by and about people who actually work and spend their lives in this field?


LOL, by and about people who work and spend their lives in this field? So, the fact that 97% of climate scientists agree that climate change is man made dont count? Talk about an argument fallacy [:D]




Sanity -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 4:49:50 PM)


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LOL, by and about people who work and spend their lives in this field? So, the fact that 97% of climate scientists agree that climate change is man made dont count? Talk about an argument fallacy [:D]


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The Myth of the Climate Change '97%'

What is the origin of the false belief—constantly repeated—that almost all scientists agree about global warming?




lovmuffin -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 6:36:31 PM)

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LOL, by and about people who work and spend their lives in this field? So, the fact that 97% of climate scientists agree that climate change is man made dont count? Talk about an argument fallacy [:D]


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The Myth of the Climate Change '97%'

What is the origin of the false belief—constantly repeated—that almost all scientists agree about global warming?



Crap !!!! Just getting to the good part then they want you to subscribe or log in. Perhaps you could copy and paste some text.




bounty44 -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 6:44:17 PM)

to follow up on sanity...

I recommend this one---amongst the many dozens that lay that myth to rest.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/30/the-myth-of-the-97-climate-change-consensus/

and then feel very invited to issue a retraction.

[image]local://upfiles/1936645/22D6E19A65A949359C93C07AE60C89B4.jpg[/image]




Tkman117 -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 9:39:58 PM)

A tantamount example that you really can find anything you want to support your ignorant view point on the Internet. Love how the majority of those websites are either blogs, conservative groups, or those paid off by the oil industry. real good research right there [:D]




Kirata -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 10:06:23 PM)


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A tantamount example that you really can find anything you want to support your ignorant view point on the Internet. Love how the majority of those websites are either blogs, conservative groups, or those paid off by the oil industry. real good research right there [:D]

Try to let this sink in...

Richard Feynman: The Key to Science

K.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Climate Change (3/12/2015 10:22:56 PM)


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A tantamount example that you really can find anything you want to support your ignorant view point on the Internet. Love how the majority of those websites are either blogs, conservative groups, or those paid off by the oil industry. real good research right there [:D]

You must have missed the last climate change thread in which how much money is poured into the process by the left.

I'm sure you'll love this too:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/#biased




MercTech -> RE: Climate Change (3/13/2015 1:35:19 AM)

When the climate change statistics predicted in the 1970s became actually measurable; the "chicken little" treatment in the press really pushed the skepticism button for a lot of people.

Then "climate change" became a vehicle for power plays to increase control and make money.

The faction screaming "we are all gonna die if we don't stop burning coal" and the "climate change is a lie" faction are both flat wrong and the data shows it. What can you count on.. change..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ




Tkman117 -> RE: Climate Change (3/13/2015 6:22:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

A tantamount example that you really can find anything you want to support your ignorant view point on the Internet. Love how the majority of those websites are either blogs, conservative groups, or those paid off by the oil industry. real good research right there [:D]

You must have missed the last climate change thread in which how much money is poured into the process by the left.

I'm sure you'll love this too:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/#biased


Wow, as if you couldn't stoop any lower. Instead of linking to BS websites with a clear and obvious political agenda, how about linking to actually scientific, peer reviewed papers. Oh that's right, the majority of the papers deniers often fawn over are either discredited or not peer reviewed. And yet the hundreds to thousands of other papers which support climate change are suddenly irrelevant. Seriously, the cherry picking with deniers is simply incredible, you jump through hoops of logic just so the world makes sense to you. Around the world there are clear and visible changes happening, and I personally can't wait for southern Florida to flood permanently so I can see the reaction the deniers have, probably claiming it's Obama trying to jump start the apocalypse or something.




thishereboi -> RE: Climate Change (3/13/2015 6:32:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

A tantamount example that you really can find anything you want to support your ignorant view point on the Internet. Love how the majority of those websites are either blogs, conservative groups, or those paid off by the oil industry. real good research right there [:D]

You must have missed the last climate change thread in which how much money is poured into the process by the left.

I'm sure you'll love this too:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/#biased


Wow, as if you couldn't stoop any lower. Instead of linking to BS websites with a clear and obvious political agenda, how about linking to actually scientific, peer reviewed papers. Oh that's right, the majority of the papers deniers often fawn over are either discredited or not peer reviewed. And yet the hundreds to thousands of other papers which support climate change are suddenly irrelevant. Seriously, the cherry picking with deniers is simply incredible, you jump through hoops of logic just so the world makes sense to you. Around the world there are clear and visible changes happening, and I personally can't wait for southern Florida to flood permanently so I can see the reaction the deniers have, probably claiming it's Obama trying to jump start the apocalypse or something.


You are going to ignore any source that doesn't say what you want, so why would anyone even bother. But it is nice to see some honestly in the bolded part. What a caring little man you are to hope for death and destruction for half the state just because you hate the folks on the right. I can't wait to see your little buddies try to spin that one but more likely they will just ignore it. After all a lot of them only seem to see the hate when it comes from the right.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Climate Change (3/13/2015 6:57:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

A tantamount example that you really can find anything you want to support your ignorant view point on the Internet. Love how the majority of those websites are either blogs, conservative groups, or those paid off by the oil industry. real good research right there [:D]

You must have missed the last climate change thread in which how much money is poured into the process by the left.

I'm sure you'll love this too:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/#biased


Wow, as if you couldn't stoop any lower. Instead of linking to BS websites with a clear and obvious political agenda, how about linking to actually scientific, peer reviewed papers. Oh that's right, the majority of the papers deniers often fawn over are either discredited or not peer reviewed. And yet the hundreds to thousands of other papers which support climate change are suddenly irrelevant. Seriously, the cherry picking with deniers is simply incredible, you jump through hoops of logic just so the world makes sense to you. Around the world there are clear and visible changes happening, and I personally can't wait for southern Florida to flood permanently so I can see the reaction the deniers have, probably claiming it's Obama trying to jump start the apocalypse or something.


You are going to ignore any source that doesn't say what you want, so why would anyone even bother. But it is nice to see some honestly in the bolded part. What a caring little man you are to hope for death and destruction for half the state just because you hate the folks on the right. I can't wait to see your little buddies try to spin that one but more likely they will just ignore it. After all a lot of them only seem to see the hate when it comes from the right.
Hes just showing some of his well -known leftist tolerance for opposing viewpoints. If he'd bothered to read through all that...of course, it is a long read and that may be the problem...he'd have noted all the citations. He also would have noted the myth of how much peer review there is.




Tkman117 -> RE: Climate Change (3/13/2015 7:13:59 AM)

No, I just refuse pseudo science. You want to talk science? Link to peer reviewed, published research. If you can't, then why should I respect your "opposing view point"? Because without evidence backing it up, it's got no more credibility than any other religion on this planet. Science isn't a view point, it's empirical, you should know that more than anyone.




Tkman117 -> RE: Climate Change (3/13/2015 7:16:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

A tantamount example that you really can find anything you want to support your ignorant view point on the Internet. Love how the majority of those websites are either blogs, conservative groups, or those paid off by the oil industry. real good research right there [:D]

You must have missed the last climate change thread in which how much money is poured into the process by the left.

I'm sure you'll love this too:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/#biased


Wow, as if you couldn't stoop any lower. Instead of linking to BS websites with a clear and obvious political agenda, how about linking to actually scientific, peer reviewed papers. Oh that's right, the majority of the papers deniers often fawn over are either discredited or not peer reviewed. And yet the hundreds to thousands of other papers which support climate change are suddenly irrelevant. Seriously, the cherry picking with deniers is simply incredible, you jump through hoops of logic just so the world makes sense to you. Around the world there are clear and visible changes happening, and I personally can't wait for southern Florida to flood permanently so I can see the reaction the deniers have, probably claiming it's Obama trying to jump start the apocalypse or something.


You are going to ignore any source that doesn't say what you want, so why would anyone even bother. But it is nice to see some honestly in the bolded part. What a caring little man you are to hope for death and destruction for half the state just because you hate the folks on the right. I can't wait to see your little buddies try to spin that one but more likely they will just ignore it. After all a lot of them only seem to see the hate when it comes from the right.


Sometimes it take drastic measures for change to happen, and if it means a few million have to go for the rest of humanity to actually take action on this issue? Then so be it. At this point, the only ones you can blame if it does happen, are the deniers who stalled and refused to take action against the warming climate.




thishereboi -> RE: Climate Change (3/13/2015 7:23:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

A tantamount example that you really can find anything you want to support your ignorant view point on the Internet. Love how the majority of those websites are either blogs, conservative groups, or those paid off by the oil industry. real good research right there [:D]

You must have missed the last climate change thread in which how much money is poured into the process by the left.

I'm sure you'll love this too:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/#biased


Wow, as if you couldn't stoop any lower. Instead of linking to BS websites with a clear and obvious political agenda, how about linking to actually scientific, peer reviewed papers. Oh that's right, the majority of the papers deniers often fawn over are either discredited or not peer reviewed. And yet the hundreds to thousands of other papers which support climate change are suddenly irrelevant. Seriously, the cherry picking with deniers is simply incredible, you jump through hoops of logic just so the world makes sense to you. Around the world there are clear and visible changes happening, and I personally can't wait for southern Florida to flood permanently so I can see the reaction the deniers have, probably claiming it's Obama trying to jump start the apocalypse or something.


You are going to ignore any source that doesn't say what you want, so why would anyone even bother. But it is nice to see some honestly in the bolded part. What a caring little man you are to hope for death and destruction for half the state just because you hate the folks on the right. I can't wait to see your little buddies try to spin that one but more likely they will just ignore it. After all a lot of them only seem to see the hate when it comes from the right.


Sometimes it take drastic measures for change to happen, and if it means a few million have to go for the rest of humanity to actually take action on this issue? Then so be it. At this point, the only ones you can blame if it does happen, are the deniers who stalled and refused to take action against the warming climate.



You must really hate the right to be willing to sacrifice all those people just to prove a point. But like I said before, at least you are honest about it even if it does make you look like a tool.




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