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Sanity -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/7/2015 9:53:51 AM)


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Sanity -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/7/2015 10:04:18 AM)


More appropriate in another thread






HunterCA -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/7/2015 10:05:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Not exactly the drooling neanderthal some want us to believe

Quite the opposite in fact, she is extremely bright

A small excerpt from the op-ed you linked to:

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Freedom of speech is the foundation of a free society. Without it, a tyrant can wreak havoc unopposed, while his opponents are silenced.

Putting up with being offended is essential in a pluralistic society in which people differ on basic truths. If a group will not stand for being offended without resorting to violence, that group will rule unopposed, while everyone else lives in fear.

Islamic law as it’s interpreted by extremists forbids criticism of Islam, the Quran, and Muhammad. If they cannot be criticized in the United States, we are in effect accepting Islamic law as overriding the freedom of speech. This would establish Muslims as a protected class and prevent honest discussion of how Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence.

Some say that “hate speech” should be censored. But what constitutes “hate speech” is a subjective judgment that is unavoidably influenced by the political perspective of the one doing the judging.

Allowing this sort of censorship would mean nothing less civilizational suicide. Many in the media and academic elite assign no blame to an ideology that calls for death to blasphemers — i.e., those who criticize or offend Islam. Instead, they target and blame those who expose this fanaticism. If the cultural elites directed their barbs and attacks at the extremist doctrine of jihad, the world would be a vastly safer place.



I think you meant this for the two killed in Texas thread.




MrRodgers -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/7/2015 3:34:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FelineRanger


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ORIGINAL: MercTech

If lawyers are involved; smoke and mirrors are a given. The bare bones appears to be a D.A. getting a peeve on for a certain person and a certain organization and pushing the investigation past sanity when they didn't find anything.


It worked to great effect when President Clinton was investigated ad nauseum to the tune of $60 million. Since then both sides of the aisle have gone down that path. So why not lather, rinse, and repeat?

Yep, sounds like Whitewater...and all of the rest.




HunterCA -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/7/2015 3:43:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: FelineRanger


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ORIGINAL: MercTech

If lawyers are involved; smoke and mirrors are a given. The bare bones appears to be a D.A. getting a peeve on for a certain person and a certain organization and pushing the investigation past sanity when they didn't find anything.


It worked to great effect when President Clinton was investigated ad nauseum to the tune of $60 million. Since then both sides of the aisle have gone down that path. So why not lather, rinse, and repeat?

Yep, sounds like Whitewater...and all of the rest.



I forget, how many of the Clinton's close personal friends and business associates went to jail for Whitewater?




Real0ne -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/8/2015 12:48:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

I agree but probable cause can be created by a one time use e-mail from a person unknown on an account created at starbucks as the home account holder and misconstrued facebook posts. Not all that hard.


if the email showed a high probability that there is wrongdoing sure. Now if the gub faked an email that is another story. Each step needs to show a judge valid cause. Unfortunately many judges simply rubber stamp everything that comes through.....




Sanity -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/8/2015 1:56:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: FelineRanger


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ORIGINAL: MercTech

If lawyers are involved; smoke and mirrors are a given. The bare bones appears to be a D.A. getting a peeve on for a certain person and a certain organization and pushing the investigation past sanity when they didn't find anything.


It worked to great effect when President Clinton was investigated ad nauseum to the tune of $60 million. Since then both sides of the aisle have gone down that path. So why not lather, rinse, and repeat?

Yep, sounds like Whitewater...and all of the rest.


I forget, how many of the Clinton's close personal friends and business associates went to jail for Whitewater?




Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, removed from office (fraud, 3 counts)
John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy#Convictions






mnottertail -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/11/2015 9:48:48 AM)

only 123 less than Reagans admin. Priceless.




Sanity -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/11/2015 1:19:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

only 123 less than Reagans admin. Priceless.


1 more thing that you're wrong about

Reagan wasn't involved in Whitewater




mnottertail -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/11/2015 1:22:39 PM)

I did not say Reagan was involved in whitewater, the cretin was incapable of operating on his own.

So, you troll again, in nowhere land.





HunterCA -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/12/2015 9:45:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I did not say Reagan was involved in whitewater, the cretin was incapable of operating on his own.

So, you troll again, in nowhere land.




Is your ban over? Did you come back just to sow anger once again?




mnottertail -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/12/2015 9:47:45 AM)

Nope, here to laugh at you factless and hallucinatory, country destroying
ignorant fucks, same as always.





HunterCA -> RE: Stifling the voice of concerned citizens (5/12/2015 10:23:12 AM)

Cool.




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