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CreativeDominant -> RE: David Duke and the Republicans (4/11/2015 11:12:42 AM)

Margaret Sanger loved eugenics and forced sterilization.

In a letter to Clarence Gable in 1939, Sanger wrote: “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members” (Margaret Sanger commenting on the ‘Negro Project’ in a letter to Gamble, Dec. 10, 1939)
In a 1957 interview with Mike Wallace, Sanger revealed: “I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world — that have disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically. Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things just marked when they’re born. That to me is the greatest sin — that people can — can commit.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/grossu-margaret-sanger-eugenicist/

http://www.blackgenocide.org/negro.html




housebitch777 -> RE: David Duke and the Republicans (4/11/2015 11:22:56 AM)

What an amazing attempt to justify a womens right to choose, or in this case avoid the consequences of her actions. The law of unintended consequences strikes again. I vote to elect a person in every city, town or villge in the world to have the right to decide who lives or dies. All you would be comfy with that.




Sanity -> RE: David Duke and the Republicans (4/11/2015 11:35:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Margaret Sanger loved eugenics and forced sterilization.

In a letter to Clarence Gable in 1939, Sanger wrote: “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members” (Margaret Sanger commenting on the ‘Negro Project’ in a letter to Gamble, Dec. 10, 1939)
In a 1957 interview with Mike Wallace, Sanger revealed: “I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world — that have disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically. Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things just marked when they’re born. That to me is the greatest sin — that people can — can commit.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/grossu-margaret-sanger-eugenicist/

http://www.blackgenocide.org/negro.html


The founder of Planned Parenthood




BamaD -> RE: David Duke and the Republicans (4/11/2015 2:03:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Much of David Duke’s ’91 Campaign Is Now in Louisiana Mainstream

• In his 1991 campaign for governor against Edwin W. Edwards, Mr. Duke largely avoided explicitly racial campaigning, appealed to the frustrations and resentments of white voters and won more than 60 percent of the white vote while losing in a runoff election.

•Two decades later, much of his campaign has merged with the political mainstream here, and rather than a bad memory from the past

• Still, Roy Fletcher, a Baton Rouge-based political consultant who has managed campaigns for Republicans like former Gov. Mike Foster and Senator John McCain, said Mr. Duke may have become a toxic political personality, but he foreshadowed the state’s coming political and ideological shift.

• Louisiana, like most of the South, has become solidly Republican in a way it was not then, and race remains a fluid issue.

What was David Duke's 1991 platform? It was: "anti-big government and anti-tax mantras that preceded the Tea Party movement."

(1) forcing welfare recipients to take birth control; (2) measures implementing stricter guidelines for residents of public housing, repealing affirmative action programs and eliminating minority set-asides;

Something also from the Duke playbook:

"how America was founded on Christian principles, Christian men who founded this country, and how it was believed it would go forward as a Christian nation and how we’re getting away from that"

^^^ The current Republican mantra in Louisiana. This is clear example of out-grouping and positioning a majority white group -- in an imagined, beleaguered position as if other groups and ideas subvert the state of the union.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/01/us/politics/much-of-david-dukes-91-campaign-is-now-in-louisiana-mainstream.html?_r=0


You forget that while Duke claimed to be a Republican the RNC publicly denounced him. If it is now Louisiana mainstream it is at least as much because of Dems as Reps remember much of that time they had Dem Governors (starting with Edwards) and Dem senators .




Aylee -> RE: David Duke and the Republicans (4/11/2015 2:19:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Much of David Duke’s ’91 Campaign Is Now in Louisiana Mainstream

• In his 1991 campaign for governor against Edwin W. Edwards, Mr. Duke largely avoided explicitly racial campaigning, appealed to the frustrations and resentments of white voters and won more than 60 percent of the white vote while losing in a runoff election.

•Two decades later, much of his campaign has merged with the political mainstream here, and rather than a bad memory from the past

• Still, Roy Fletcher, a Baton Rouge-based political consultant who has managed campaigns for Republicans like former Gov. Mike Foster and Senator John McCain, said Mr. Duke may have become a toxic political personality, but he foreshadowed the state’s coming political and ideological shift.

• Louisiana, like most of the South, has become solidly Republican in a way it was not then, and race remains a fluid issue.

What was David Duke's 1991 platform? It was: "anti-big government and anti-tax mantras that preceded the Tea Party movement."

(1) forcing welfare recipients to take birth control; (2) measures implementing stricter guidelines for residents of public housing, repealing affirmative action programs and eliminating minority set-asides;

Something also from the Duke playbook:

"how America was founded on Christian principles, Christian men who founded this country, and how it was believed it would go forward as a Christian nation and how we’re getting away from that"

^^^ The current Republican mantra in Louisiana. This is clear example of out-grouping and positioning a majority white group -- in an imagined, beleaguered position as if other groups and ideas subvert the state of the union.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/01/us/politics/much-of-david-dukes-91-campaign-is-now-in-louisiana-mainstream.html?_r=0


Are you really suggesting that wanting to shrink government and taxes makes you a KKK member?

Wow.




cloudboy -> RE: David Duke and the Republicans (4/11/2015 2:21:16 PM)

Of course they publicly denounced him, but after winning 60% of the white vote in Louisiana, candidates after him dropped the "overt" racism in favor of his general tone and appeal to white voters. The gun thread really symbolizes that attitude here, how all the conservative posters simply don't want to sympathize with the victim, and prefer instead to talk about other pet issues. The police claimed to have administered CPR in their report, when in reality they just stood around the dead body working on a cover up story instead.

Jindal, the current governor of Louisiana, now has a complete mess on his hands and has gone from "Presidential hopeful" to after thought.




housebitch777 -> RE: David Duke and the Republicans (4/11/2015 2:23:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Of course they publicly denounced him, but after winning 60% of the white vote in Louisiana, candidates after him dropped the "overt" racism in favor of general tone and appeal to white voters. The gun thread really symbolizes that attitude here, how all the conservative posters simply don't want to sympathize with the victim, and prefer instead to talk about other pet issues.

Jindal, the current governor of Louisiana, now has a complete mess on his hands and has gone from "Presidential hopeful" to after thought.

once again, wrong.....the problem with Jindal is he moderated....not going to win the presidency any time soon doing that. Not that he moderated...he was little more liberal...like the bushes.....as the majority if not all of the republican field will find out in 16.




MercTech -> RE: David Duke and the Republicans (4/11/2015 3:22:27 PM)

Eugenics was not always a bad word. Eugenics started as people trying to find a way to improve mankind as a species. If they had stuck to encouraging improvements it might still be a viable policy. Read Heinlein's "Methusalah's Children" for a might have been on a eugenics encouragement program for a certain trait.

The heyday of the eugenics movement started a downhill slide when the discussion moved from encouraging excellence to removing undesirable traits from the species. The National Socialist Party took that kind of thinking to its logical end' genocide to those that weren't "our kind of people".




CreativeDominant -> RE: David Duke and the Republicans (4/11/2015 9:24:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Of course they publicly denounced him, but after winning 60% of the white vote in Louisiana, candidates after him dropped the "overt" racism in favor of his general tone and appeal to white voters. The gun thread really symbolizes that attitude here, how all the conservative posters simply don't want to sympathize with the victim, and prefer instead to talk about other pet issues. The police claimed to have administered CPR in their report, when in reality they just stood around the dead body working on a cover up story instead.

Jindal, the current governor of Louisiana, now has a complete mess on his hands and has gone from "Presidential hopeful" to after thought.

If you're referring to the current thread about a police officer that I think you're referring to, how about you list...right here on this thread...where ANY conservative poster has claimed that the police officer was right OR that the victim deserved to die.

We'll be waiting for you to back up your claim...




BamaD -> RE: David Duke and the Republicans (4/11/2015 9:38:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Of course they publicly denounced him, but after winning 60% of the white vote in Louisiana, candidates after him dropped the "overt" racism in favor of his general tone and appeal to white voters. The gun thread really symbolizes that attitude here, how all the conservative posters simply don't want to sympathize with the victim, and prefer instead to talk about other pet issues. The police claimed to have administered CPR in their report, when in reality they just stood around the dead body working on a cover up story instead.

Jindal, the current governor of Louisiana, now has a complete mess on his hands and has gone from "Presidential hopeful" to after thought.

Democrats have had a lot of say in what has happened in LA and you know it. The Republican party has repudiated racism long ago, longer ago than the Dems, remember the "most respected" Dem senator was a former Grand Wizard of the KKK. Duke was 20 year ago and has been shunned by the Republican party from the outset. It is nice to know that you are privy to the inner workings of the Republican Party, how else could you know that while they were repudiating him they were trying to figure a way to do everything he wanted without looking like it. Duke claimed some traditional Republican stances to get people to ignore his background and accept that he had changed. I find it interesting to note that you ignore the fact that the only reason Duke did so well was that Edwards was a know crook who had been run out of office just a few years earlier. They had a choice between a bigot and a crook, they eventually chose the crook (had I lived in LA at the time I would have voted for Edwards). You bring up something from over 20 years ago, leave out key information, all to create a false impression about people who dare to disagree with you.




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