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Kaliko -> RE: School Testing (4/12/2015 7:24:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

You are correct Kaliko, I shouldn't have said the test. It is a new test to replace the CRCT, and is supposed to be the first step towards more common sense teaching. I have racked my brain trying to remember the name of the tests, but I guess my spring break turned my mind to mush. It will come to me tomorrow I bet when I get up at 4:30 again.




Georgia Milestones Assessment System?

How anal am I that I just felt compelled to Google that? LOL There was no way I could go to sleep without knowing.





cloudboy -> RE: School Testing (4/13/2015 7:51:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Then how would an educator know if you have learned the material or need extra help?


It might help if you understood what School Testing was; it is not the same as grading and student assessment in the classroom. Testing here is about school and teacher performance.

About the article:

• I don't think individual parents should opt their kids out of testing. If they don't like public school policies, then they need to send their children to private schools or change the policies they don't like.

• The number of children from impoverished backgrounds is the #1 predictor for "under-performing" schools. Policies that don't address poverty will do little to change school performance in these areas.

• As long as the states have compulsory education policies, schools will continue to under perform.




kdsub -> RE: School Testing (4/13/2015 8:03:30 AM)

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It might help if you understood what School Testing was; it is not the same grading and student assessment in the classroom. Testing here is about school and teacher performance.


This makes no sense to me cloudboy... yes the school and teacher performance is evaluated but it is evaluated by the score of the children... and this is the very basis and reason for CC in the first place.

The fact that school and teacher performance is part of this system is the reason many teachers and schools are against it... There was no accountability before this system now there is... I think it is great and do not find it a threat to competent systems and teachers. What it will do is find teachers, administrators and systems that are not providing a good education for the tax payers buck and are failing the children.

Butch




joether -> RE: School Testing (4/13/2015 1:23:21 PM)

As people have pointed out, the original idea of schools; which is to say, not the original ideal of schools, so to create assembly line workers. The origins of public education was to teach children with whom the community as a whole would picked up the dime to help educate. There are plenty of public education schools in place well before the 19th century in America! I know, because I went to one of them!

Now, educators are faced with a new task in education: educating the young to be either 'college ready' or 'workforce ready'. Yet the way one teaches for either is different from the other in mindset and requirements. So the educators have to combined both sets of elements at once. That is not an easy process to accomplish. Made worst due to the ignorant butting their heads into the process by political means.

What will it take? Funding. Educators are people whom will look for the best 'bang for their buck' like anyone else. Even if the educator is earning six figures, performing well, and handles extra duties; if they want to join and be in a union, that's their business. Third, it takes a serious commitment by parents and even those adults around children to help in the process. Either directly with school assignments or indirectly by taking what they are learning and giving practical exercises. Fourth, is to involve the community in the educational process. Many groups that cater to children growing up could help in the process; from church groups to the Boy Scouts! Fifth, long term planning is a must. Not just for having the correct facilities, but the grow of the community's future youngsters enrolling in a few years. Finally, it takes educated and mature adults to push the religious and political bullshit out of the way to deal with all of the other above matters.

However many school systems are not given the benefit of being located in rich areas, were tax money helps significantly in this whole process, year after year. To which the state and federal governments chip in to help off set costs. If taxes have to be raised because those two entities can not divert funds from other sources; then that is what has to happen. Nobody likes the idea of taxes being raised is understandable; but how badly do we want a good educational system to raise the next generation of Americans to handle an even wider level of possible problems (given technology right now)?

If there was an easy, no-cost, silver bullet solution to all of this; it would have been used a few decades ago. Since there isn't, its better to deal with the issue in a mature, intelligent, and educated manner. The amount of knowledge we have of the human mind and body is levels better than back when I was in school. Technology has also improved in adapting learning to levels far easier and deeper than previously used. Its one thing to read about the Boston Tea Party; its quite another to have a headset like the Oculus Rift and 'exist' in the middle of events as they unfold. Or to be standing in a line of people, along a down town city street, waiting for the President of the United States to roll by on a sunny November 22 afternoon in 1963.





MercTech -> RE: School Testing (4/13/2015 3:05:29 PM)


So many solutions so many times. Yet the problem remains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYEm76840Yo




JstAnotherSub -> RE: School Testing (4/13/2015 3:15:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kaliko


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

You are correct Kaliko, I shouldn't have said the test. It is a new test to replace the CRCT, and is supposed to be the first step towards more common sense teaching. I have racked my brain trying to remember the name of the tests, but I guess my spring break turned my mind to mush. It will come to me tomorrow I bet when I get up at 4:30 again.




Georgia Milestones Assessment System?

How anal am I that I just felt compelled to Google that? LOL There was no way I could go to sleep without knowing.



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