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Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/11/2015 4:49:10 AM   
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It's great to see this and he did it in four months, according to the article.

https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/and-for-his-next-trick--penn-jillette-will-drop-105-pounds-124856453.html

What a great success story and it's nice to know that this improves the chances of him, being around to entertain us for years to come.



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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/11/2015 8:16:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is a lot of weight to lose in so short a time. Makes me feel like a slacker as it has taken me 8 months to lose 50 pounds. Sooo, on that note, I'm off to hit the trails and the gym.

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/12/2015 4:13:46 AM   
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Honestly, I didn't post it to make anyone look bad. I've been having trouble, losing weight, this time around, also.

I've been a yo-yo, all of my life and up until about 5 years ago, when I needed to lose weight I always could. Five years ago, I lost 25 lbs. in a month by getting a touch more exercise while eating two fried chicken breasts and a small order of steak fries, four times a week (I ate ramen noodles, the other three days).

But, I promise, my intent here was two-fold I've been a fan of Penn as magician and Libertarian for about 30 years and his regimen truly is fantastic so, I thought it might help some people.

I could never be a vegan because I'd rather die than give up animal flesh, entirely, but maybe some people might try it.



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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/12/2015 7:34:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wish I could go paleo... But I like chips too much!

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/12/2015 8:27:26 AM   
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I wish I could go paleo... But I like chips too much!


I fucking love Paleo. My overall health after giving up grains is such a testament to how it can really work for some people. Yes, I've lost a few pounds, which is nice, but more importantly, giving up grains and sugar has had such a positive impact on my body overall. I didn't even realize how not good I felt until I got to this place to be able to compare.

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/12/2015 9:16:26 AM   
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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/12/2015 9:30:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course! I was going to start a Paleo thread in the Recipe forum the other day but got sidetracked. But I'll do that soon. :)

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/12/2015 1:22:08 PM   
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That is a lot of weight to lose in so short a time. Makes me feel like a slacker as it has taken me 8 months to lose 50 pounds. Sooo, on that note, I'm off to hit the trails and the gym.

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I'll bet your slower weight loss lasts longer than his does.

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/15/2015 11:14:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		First thing is the sugar. It is actually among the worst stuff you can take into your body. Black coffee, no soda or even ice tea. Cereal with skim milk only...a few strawberries.

But the really difficulty is as one gets older, the metabolism slows down so a diet to lose weight needs to come from all fronts.

Intake, exercise, veggies, very little meat of any kind and I've been looking at the rainbow diet. I am going to try it and stick to it and get back to swimming and running...the latter only a little at this late date.

I will still need my once a week steak, lean but that will be it, instead of so much red meat, almost everyday.

When I was younger I lost a lb. a day which I am told is the max. safe loss. But I was playing bball and getting lottsa exercise. Now, it just isn't so easy and the work...even harder.

The toll of the extra weight is not healthy plus exercise...cleans the blood.

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/16/2015 4:16:18 AM   
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That is a lot of weight to lose in so short a time. Makes me feel like a slacker as it has taken me 8 months to lose 50 pounds. Sooo, on that note, I'm off to hit the trails and the gym.

WinD


I'll bet your slower weight loss lasts longer than his does.


That's a petty judgement. He lost the weight because of health issues. He has just as much of a chance of keeping it off as anyone else, based on his own lifetime choices.

Everyone has their own reasons and pace. Neither is wrong nor right.

I lost two sizes last year in a month (I don't know about weight. I don't weight myself, haven't in about a year). Then I plateaued. I have another size or two to go, and I've kept the weight off. I'm now working on that next step. Not as fast as the first step, but still consciously. I figure it will take 3-6 months this time.

I just think it's sad to be so negative over a success story, even if you're trying to make someone else feel good.

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/16/2015 6:23:05 AM   
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I wish I could go paleo... But I like chips too much!


I fucking love Paleo. My overall health after giving up grains is such a testament to how it can really work for some people. Yes, I've lost a few pounds, which is nice, but more importantly, giving up grains and sugar has had such a positive impact on my body overall. I didn't even realize how not good I felt until I got to this place to be able to compare.


ARIES, I'm going to echo this. I went on it to improve my health and improve my health it did! I had horribly high blood pressure and my cholesterol level wasn't great. Since going on it, both are at consistently perfect levels. I no longer felt tired or as if I had weights around my ankles. I slept so much better and consistently. Working out was so easy for me since I had the energy. I felt the most wonderful I had ever felt in my life. Then I stopped :(

I want to go back on but my issue is with coffee. So, I know it's not easy. For chips, there are other alternatives out there that may help that craving (I know, not exactly the same thing). I found that after being on Paleo for a while then attempting to try my once favorite foods, they ALL tasted like cardboard and I didn't enjoy them. After continuously eating them, however, my old taste buds came back. So now I'm where I'm at.

I did allow myself cheats here and there. Usually in the form of an espresso drink on the weekends. It helped that I lived too far from the nearest coffee shop and a daily trip was not possible. Something else to consider.


http://paleomg.com/superbowl-snacks-sweet-potato-chips/

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/16/2015 11:57:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yer, I've been on it before. I felt great too. But... Mmmm.






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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/16/2015 12:26:25 PM   
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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/16/2015 4:14:50 PM   
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First thing is the sugar.


Absolutely. I can't believe how much sugar I used to intake compared to what I eat now. And even so, my cravings are not yet gone. Powerful stuff.

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/16/2015 4:17:55 PM   
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Absolutely. I can't believe how much sugar I used to intake compared to what I eat now. And even so, my cravings are not yet gone. Powerful stuff.



Inside of this fat, fifty-year-old, grizzled veteran of life is an eighteen-year-old, 148 lb. teen-ager, screaming to get out.

I can usually shut the little bastard up with a HERSHEY'S bar.

I can resist anything except temptation.



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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/17/2015 11:01:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I understand it correctly what Penn is doing is not being a vegan,
certainly not an "ethical vegan". You can be a vegan and still eat
all sorts of unhealthy crap. Oreos, cheetos, french fries, donuts, etc.

As I understand it what he is following is a strict version of a WFPB SOS
or Whole Food Plant Based low Sugar Oil Salt diet. Probably the easiest
way to learn about this is to view the documentary Forks Over Knives

Another way to learn about it and about the doctors and institutions that are
now advocating it is to follow this list complied by the dietician Jeff Novick.

http://www.jeffnovick.com/RD/Articles/Entries/2013/12/5_The_Specturm_Of_Health__The_Evidence_For_A_Whole_Food_Plant_Base_Diet_-_Pt_1.html

The results for following this type of diet long term are very impressive. Probably
some of the most impressive health benefits were the people profiled in the movie who
were told to go home and die 20 years ago by their expert cardiologists who are still
alive now after they switched to the form of this diet advocated by Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn.

Personally I can report that I started following this form of diet in support of a friend
of mine who had his bypass about 4 years ago and then saw the movie and read Dr.
Esselstyn's book. Since then Kaiser Health systems in their internal publication for
their physicians has advocated teaching patients about it.

https://www.thepermanentejournal.org/issues/2013/spring/5117-nutrition.html

Say what you will about Kaiser but I can guarantee you that an operation that size
has people in it who know how to count money. Once they have you in it is in their
best interest to keep you healthy. So if they are spending money to advocate this diet
they must think it works.

The other large facility that is advocating a form of this diet is UCLA. They have started
a partnership with Dr. Dean Ornish who also advocates a form of it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/15/tn-healthways-idUSnBw156236a+100+BSW20140115

I have been interested in health and diet for a number of years after witnessing and fighting
with the medical/pharmacological/insurance industry for my partner as she battled cancer.

I know I will get sick and die sometime. But I will NOT lie in a hospital bed knowing that
I put myself there due to my own lack of caring or self indulgence. My blood pressure and lipid
numbers are both much improved since starting this way of eating. My weight and health markers
are excellent and I take zero meds. I like it that way and giving up what Jeff Novick calls Calorie
Rich And Processed foods, CRAP, is a small price to pay.

I also like feeling great, having everything work the way it should, enjoying a walk to the store
the other day because it was such a great day and it was only a few mile round trip. I don't think
that what Penn has done so far is fuckin amazing, sticking to it over the long haul is. It is not always
easy in the toxic atmosphere of the Standard American Diet (SAD) and culture, but it is so worth it.

I hope he makes it and he will if he transitions from a weight weight loss to a weight maintenance diet
by gradually adding in healthy whole food starches and then hangs in there. I certainly wish him the best.



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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/17/2015 11:53:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Penn is awesome, vegan seems a bit over kill big guys need protein... but then that's just the carnivore in me talking. The idea that 1000kcals is low for someone still pisses me off. But yeah daddy did that last year he was eating 2000kcals a day and dropping 2 pounds a day...my basal rate is right around 500 so I will always have dreams of being able to eat a slice of cheesecake without giving up on pants but at least in the case of an apocalypse I'd be the last to starve to death.

There were studies done on monkeys that showed that low calorie diets(300 for the monkeys) stopped the effects of aging and cancer from showing up... the side by side images of monkeys on a normal monkey diet and the reduced were drastic.

I'm thinking about getting back into shape but the other half likes feeding me and I feel bad if I waste food. Sadly I never figured out how to do things half assed. The only diet or only exercise, or 3 days a week, cheat days type of schedule never worked for me I need no wiggle room. It's a rather ridiculous process. I make a list of exactly what I eat at exactly what time, measured out, weighed, stop watch timing me, every second of my day planned out to the second,time brushing your teeth, showers, the only time I can sit down is while drinking ice water and electronics(TV or music) can only be on while working out. The work out itself involved doing my weight(when is started that at my heaviest it was 150) of various moves, 150 situps, pushups, punch kick combos etc.... once it becomes easy I switch to inverted, one handed, higher weight etc.... in 2 months I dropped 45 pounds and was ripped, those were also the 2 months I finished 2 years of high school credits in.

It would be good for my health to get back to that but I lack the goal, the reason to bother.....I give it another month before I finally go over that edge.

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/18/2015 3:13:16 AM   
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It would be good for my health to get back to that but I lack the goal, the reason to bother.....I give it another month before I finally go over that edge.


I know this feeling. LOL!

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/18/2015 5:21:05 AM   
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Sadly I never figured out how to do things half assed. The only diet or only exercise, or 3 days a week, cheat days type of schedule never worked for me I need no wiggle room.


I'm the same way. That's part of my overall personality, not just when it comes to diet or exercise. I do well with strict guidelines. But my cooking is a good metaphor.

I was vegan for awhile a few years back. (....I know. I know.) While vegan, I was a very impressive cook. And I never left the kitchen. I loved it. I was vegetarian much longer than I was vegan, and while I still cooked well, it was too easy to be lazy about it and my skills declined. The last few years, eating the Standard American Diet, my love of cooking fell to the floor. Enter grain-free and then Paleo, and I haven't left the kitchen in a year. LOL

I find just about everything, every challenge, to be more enjoyable if I have to meet it within strict parameters. Give me leeway and I lose interest.

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RE: Fuckin' Amazing! - 4/18/2015 5:45:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well giving me guidelines is like saying "there is the finish line" and I can't wait to cross those boundaries.... it'seems fine if I set them myself but with others the line has to be a physical difficulty not just a rule. I thrive off of turmoil, adapt quickly, problem being I know what I can handle, what I've already overcome so the only things that catch my attention have to be major challenges.... basically I'm too fucking happy to get off my ass lol

My sister did vegan, gluten, carb free.... basically she ate nothing. But she does that with cooking too, or she cooks to watch other people eat. My mother would only cook I've you went on a diet, then she would bake and say "come on one bite won't hurt" I never got the cooking bug, do it when it have to but I'm much happier ripping the guts out than seasoning.

I think food gets boring if it's too easy. Doesn't matter what it is if it's your first meal in a week it tastes like the best thing ever. Carbs and fat make you happy, but getting them all the time you get numb to the endorphin release.

I'd rather work incredibly hard to get just enough to live off of than have an abundance given freely.

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