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Aylee -> RE: Clueless attacks on student... (4/14/2015 2:16:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
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ORIGINAL: joether
The kid has a motive for the action, the means to accomplish it, and not much wisdom to consider the problems if he was caught. And he was caught! Its an 'open & shut' case for the prosecution here. Either the defense will 'plead down' on lesser charge(s), or be stupid.

And that is why he should not be charged and tried as an adult.

There is also the fact that he may not have known it was "illegal." Against school policy. . . sure. A felony? Unlikely.

I dislike laws where one does not know something is illegal. The prosecutorial discretion in this case needs to be revisited.

I also see no benefit to the child or society for introducing him to the criminal justice system.


Being ignorant of the law is not a 'good enough' defense in a court room. Many tens of thousands of cases prove that already. This kid would have been told when he got the three day suspension that such action is not allowable. Most school systems have a 'chain of events' that take place with offenders. The first offense is serious, but its 'a walk in the park' compared to the second time the offender acts. Notice the kid nor the mother are stating this, nor showing they received written documentation explaining the previous offense and what would happen if the kid did the same or similar again. The school would have given that information to both of them when the first offense took place.

That because he's a sweet looking boy, he should not be given a harsh treatment due to the crime? There are plenty of psychotic killers whom were handsome/beautiful; should they have a lesser sentence on each crime they were accused of because of personal looks?

You want to argue the law itself? Take it up with the Florida Legislature. They are the ones that decide on how a law is applied and the penalty unleashed. To that above and below the age of 18.


Can you list all of the capital crimes and felonies?

Why should a 14 year old be able to?

Perhaps presumed knowledge of the law is bad law or not sane and reasonable.




MercTech -> RE: Clueless attacks on student... (4/16/2015 6:28:57 PM)

Why would anyone consider changing a wallpaper to be a felony?
Just a case of criminalizing the populace with no crime ever committed.




Lucylastic -> RE: Clueless attacks on student... (4/16/2015 7:16:52 PM)

Kids forced to drop pants at school, checked for poop


http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2015/01/28/22455649/
(just video)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gym-floor-feces-leads-search-texas-kids-underwear-article-1.2095267


Nearly two-dozen elementary school students were reportedly forced to undergo an underwear inspection after feces were repeatedly found on their gymnasium's floor.

The partial strip search performed in the small town of Gustine, Texas, on Monday has since led to outrage by both students and their appalled parents.

"I felt uncomfortable and I didn't want to do it," 11-year-old Eliza Medina told KHOU. "I felt like they violated my privacy."

Eliza's mother, Maria Medina, said the students were separated by gender before they were ordered to "pull down their pants to check them to see if they could find anything," she told the station.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Clueless attacks on student... (4/16/2015 8:38:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Kids forced to drop pants at school, checked for poop


http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2015/01/28/22455649/
(just video)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gym-floor-feces-leads-search-texas-kids-underwear-article-1.2095267


Nearly two-dozen elementary school students were reportedly forced to undergo an underwear inspection after feces were repeatedly found on their gymnasium's floor.

The partial strip search performed in the small town of Gustine, Texas, on Monday has since led to outrage by both students and their appalled parents.

"I felt uncomfortable and I didn't want to do it," 11-year-old Eliza Medina told KHOU. "I felt like they violated my privacy."

Eliza's mother, Maria Medina, said the students were separated by gender before they were ordered to "pull down their pants to check them to see if they could find anything," she told the station.
Why do I get this image in my head of Colonel Klink?

"I see we have win poop in za floor. This will NOT be allowed!! Ahnd zo, ve are going to gaff you drop your pants so ve can check your ironies. Line up! Mach Schnell!!




Sanity -> RE: Clueless attacks on student... (4/17/2015 6:44:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Why do I get this image in my head of Colonel Klink?

"I see we have win poop in za floor. This will NOT be allowed!! Ahnd zo, ve are going to gaff you drop your pants so ve can check your ironies. Line up! Mach Schnell!!



It seems to me that they could have figured out who had shit themselves, just by using the trusty old smell test alone. Were they all heavy smokers, or what?




stef -> RE: Clueless attacks on student... (4/17/2015 11:47:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


Why do I get this image in my head of Colonel Klink?

"I see we have win poop in za floor. This will NOT be allowed!! Ahnd zo, ve are going to gaff you drop your pants so ve can check your ironies. Line up! Mach Schnell!!

That sounds more like General Burkhalter than Colonel Klink.




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