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cloudboy -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/14/2015 10:03:30 PM)


Finally some Americans convicted of doing something wrong in IRAQ. According the article I read, not a single defendant felt a shred of remorse, guilt, or responsibility for the massacre of innocent civilians. In their minds, they're completely innocent.




Sanity -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 6:50:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Finally some Americans convicted of doing something wrong in IRAQ. According the article I read, not a single defendant felt a shred of remorse, guilt, or responsibility for the massacre of innocent civilians. In their minds, they're completely innocent.


Under Saddams system, there was no such justice. Government goons did however they pleased and were in fact literally rewarded for committing the most heinous acts they could imagine

Leftists miss that system




tweakabelle -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 6:53:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Finally some Americans convicted of doing something wrong in IRAQ. According the article I read, not a single defendant felt a shred of remorse, guilt, or responsibility for the massacre of innocent civilians. In their minds, they're completely innocent.


Under Saddams system, there was no such justice. Government goons did however they pleased and were in fact literally rewarded for committing the most heinous acts they could imagine

Leftists miss that system

What's your point Sanity? Are you offering some kind of defence for the behaviour of these mercenaries'contractors'?

If so could you please come out and say it directly? If not could you please ponder the point of your contributing to this thread?




Sanity -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 6:59:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

What's your point Sanity? Are you offering some kind of defence for the behaviour of these mercenaries'contractors'?

If so could you please come out and say it directly? If not could you please ponder the point of your contributing to this thread?


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cloudboy -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 7:07:11 AM)

It's startling how far off the reservation he really lives.....




Lucylastic -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 7:11:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Leftists miss that system


LOL

[image]local://upfiles/228382/CA2AB19C2600427CBBD3D9B41F0B3151.jpg[/image]




tweakabelle -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 7:13:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


It's starting at times how far off the reservation he really lives.....

You are not wrong! [:D]

I was silly enough to attempt to figure out how asking him for clarification of his position could possibly be a 'strawman' argument/tactic but sensibly gave up after a second or so when I recalled who I was dealing with ........




Sanity -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 7:17:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Leftists miss that system


LOL

[image]local://upfiles/228382/CA2AB19C2600427CBBD3D9B41F0B3151.jpg[/image]


Why the hateful attacks on America for bringing him down, such as cloudboys above:


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Finally some Americans convicted of doing something wrong in IRAQ. According the article I read, not a single defendant felt a shred of remorse, guilt, or responsibility for the massacre of innocent civilians. In their minds, they're completely innocent.


We are just bad, bad, bad.

Whats sad is how the Obama administration fucked Iraq up

Even according to Barack and his VP Iraq was a huge success when they were initially elected







Sanity -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 7:21:04 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


It's starting at times how far off the reservation he really lives.....

You are not wrong! [:D]

I was silly enough to attempt to figure out how asking him for clarification of his position could possibly be a 'strawman' argument/tactic but sensibly gave up after a second or so when I recalled who I was dealing with ........


Clarification, your ass

Yours was your typical form of "debate"

Attack the person because you cant possibly touch the argument

Even if you used the blatant straw man in the form of a question, you still had to rely on your fallacy crutch

Because you struggle to cope with real world facts





Sanity -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 7:22:40 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

It's startling how far off the reservation he really lives.....


Its boring how leftists are constantly forced to rely on personal attacks to try to win any given debate




tweakabelle -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 7:27:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


It's starting at times how far off the reservation he really lives.....

You are not wrong! [:D]

I was silly enough to attempt to figure out how asking him for clarification of his position could possibly be a 'strawman' argument/tactic but sensibly gave up after a second or so when I recalled who I was dealing with ........


Clarification, your ass

Yours was your typical form of "debate"

Attack the person because you cant possibly touch the argument

Even if you used the blatant straw man in the form of a question, you still had to rely on your fallacy crutch

Because you struggle to cope with real world facts



Please read this carefully Sanity:

The 'strawman' character in the picture you posted is not, I repeat NOT a role model for you to imitate.

If this message is too complex for you to understand, please say so and I will try to re-post in an even simpler form for you.




Lucylastic -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 7:30:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Leftists miss that system


LOL

[image]local://upfiles/228382/CA2AB19C2600427CBBD3D9B41F0B3151.jpg[/image]


Why the hateful attacks on America for bringing him down, such as cloudboys above:


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Finally some Americans convicted of doing something wrong in IRAQ. According the article I read, not a single defendant felt a shred of remorse, guilt, or responsibility for the massacre of innocent civilians. In their minds, they're completely innocent.


We are just bad, bad, bad.

Whats sad is how the Obama administration fucked Iraq up

Even according to Barack and his VP Iraq was a huge success when they were initially elected





keep building it......you need a baler




Sanity -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 7:44:45 AM)


Ive posted this enough times you should have it memorized by now

Even these two clowns had to admit that we did great things for Iraq

(Until their policies took over)

Barack Obama:

quote:

'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/12/14/remarks-president-and-first-lady-end-war-iraq


Joe Biden:

quote:


“I am very optimistic about Iraq. I think it’s gonna be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re gonna see 90,000 American troops come marchin’ home by the end of the summer. You’re gonna see a stable government in Iraq that is actually movin’ toward a representative government. I’ve been there 17 times now. I go about every two months, three months. I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society. It’s impressed me. I’ve been impressed, how they have been deciding to use the political process, rather than guns, to settle their differences.”

Then Joe rode off on a unicorn down a road made of rainbows.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/12/watch-joe-biden-call-iraq-one-of-the-great-achievements-of-this-administration/







slvemike4u -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 8:02:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Finally some Americans convicted of doing something wrong in IRAQ. According the article I read, not a single defendant felt a shred of remorse, guilt, or responsibility for the massacre of innocent civilians. In their minds, they're completely innocent.


Under Saddams system, there was no such justice. Government goons did however they pleased and were in fact literally rewarded for committing the most heinous acts they could imagine

Leftists miss that system

What the fuck does one have to do with the other ?
When are going to grow the fuck up and start posting in an adult manner ?




slvemike4u -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 8:05:23 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

It's startling how far off the reservation he really lives.....


Its boring how leftists are constantly forced to rely on personal attacks to try to win any given debate

No one NEEDS to win a debate with you sanity.
You show up and instantly demonstrate for everyone what a complete asshole you are.
That's an observation....not an attack [:D]




Sanity -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 8:27:38 AM)

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Famed film director Brian De Palma (Scarface, The Untouchables) has completed and publicly screened a new film, Redacted, detailing allegations of a rape by US soldiers in Iraq. The appearance of this film is sad but not surprising. American soldiers fighting against the genocidal aspirations of various fanatics have borne the brunt of a Western media culture that is most interested in casting the Americans as victims or villains. De Palma was reported recently saying,

"When I read about the Mahmudiyah incident in Iraq 2006 -- five US soldiers raped a local girl, killed her and her family and later tried to disguise it as an insurgent attack - I knew I had a story."

De Palma like so many other political reactionaries, knows he has a story when it paints an American soldier in the most negative light. Perhaps more interesting for Americans is what is not a story to him and to many others in the culture business.

What is not a story is a dictator who operated rape rooms. In those rooms untold numbers of women were raped for the amusement of his sons. The government had on its payroll hired rapists who would perform the acts in front of husbands and children. A Harvard study on practices against women during Saddam's rule reported:

"The Iraqi Government uses rape and sexual assault of women to achieve the following goals: to extract information and forced confessions from detained family members; to intimidate Iraqi oppositionists by sending videotapes showing the rape of female family members; and to blackmail Iraqi men into future cooperation with the regime. Some Iraqi authorities even carry personnel cards identifying their official "activity" as the "violation of women's honor."

Amnesty International and other organizations also reported the following violence against women:

"Under the pretext of fighting prostitution, units of ‘Fedayeen Saddam,' the paramilitary organization led by Uday Hussein, Saddam's eldest son, have beheaded in public more than 200 women throughout the country, dumping their severed heads at their families' doorsteps. Many families have been required to display the victim's head on their outside fences for several days. These barbaric acts were carried out in the total absence of any proper judicial procedures and many of the victims were not engaged in prostitution, but were targeted for political reasons. For example, Najat Mohammad Haydar, an obstetrician in Baghdad, was beheaded after criticizing the corruption within health services."


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/09/brian_de_palmas_and_rape_in_ir.html#ixzz3XOL6uf2C
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America, Bush, Cheney, American soldiers, the liberation of Iraq, are all very noble for ending such practices

This, despite the manic leftist mantra and propaganda, the ignorance and the hyperbole




mnottertail -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 8:50:21 AM)

Of course the ending of such practices is pure asswipe spewed by the rightwing shiteating goons and thugs. They didnt do shit, but in fact assisted in its acceleration and pervasiveness.

http://www.aljazeera.com/humanrights/2013/03/201331883513244683.html




Sanity -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 8:58:33 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Of course the ending of such practices is pure asswipe spewed by the rightwing shiteating goons and thugs. They didnt do shit, but in fact assisted in its acceleration and pervasiveness.

http://www.aljazeera.com/humanrights/2013/03/201331883513244683.html


The media is in there, such accusations are being investigated and freely discussed, there are campaigns and elections...

Under the old system mass torture, carnage and mayhem would have been underway at the first slight breath of such an allegation

Yet you claim to see it as worse now, because as is so typical of the left your rabid partisanship has completely blinded you to reality





tweakabelle -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 9:02:14 AM)

I can't quite decide whether Sanity is:
(a) the only person in the world who still thinks the invasion of Iraq was a good thing, not a disaster; or
(b) simply too obstinate to admit that the invasion of Iraq was a disaster.

However as he insists that we consider the good things that the US achieved in Iraq, does Sanity hold that the murders committed by the mercenaries in the OP are among those good and noble acts?




Sanity -> RE: blackwater sentences handed down (4/15/2015 9:10:11 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

I can't quite decide whether Sanity is:
(a) the only person in the world who still thinks the invasion of Iraq was a good thing, not a disaster; or
(b) simply too obstinate to admit that the invasion of Iraq was a disaster.


Again,

Barack Obama:

quote:

'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/12/14/remarks-president-and-first-lady-end-war-iraq


Joe Biden:

quote:


“I am very optimistic about Iraq. I think it’s gonna be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re gonna see 90,000 American troops come marchin’ home by the end of the summer. You’re gonna see a stable government in Iraq that is actually movin’ toward a representative government. I’ve been there 17 times now. I go about every two months, three months. I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society. It’s impressed me. I’ve been impressed, how they have been deciding to use the political process, rather than guns, to settle their differences.”

Then Joe rode off on a unicorn down a road made of rainbows.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/12/watch-joe-biden-call-iraq-one-of-the-great-achievements-of-this-administration/






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