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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 10:40:24 AM   
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the fact that it got thru the house yesterday and failed passage in the senate last night and they have sent it back to committee for a year......seems to have escaped some of you.....I suspect in your hurry to call Joe a liar....
well done, now do ya want a medal or chest to pin one on?




Had the title been Tennessee state book might soon be...The Bible. You would be correct but that's not what he posted. He posted Tennessee state book is...The Holy Bible! and that was a lie.

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 11:37:23 AM   
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The Holy Bible!

Even though it violates the state and federal laws on the 'separation of Church and State', Tennessee Republicans pushed to make the Holy Bible the official book for the state. Knowing that they would be violating the law, these people voted on the bill anyways. After all, whose going to prosecute them? The Republican Party in the state?

What should happen to those who knowingly violate the law, do it for their political/religious reasons?



Isn't the Bible a book?
Doesn't it count as literature?
Hasn't it influenced several societies?
Where did they say that anyone had to accept it as "gospel"?



Well the thread title was a lie, why would you expect anything else he posted to be any different. And according to this link it wasn't even a close vote.

Tennessee’s House of Representatives will not make the Holy Bible the official state book after lawmakers defeated the proposal 22-9 on Wednesday, according to The Tennessean newspaper.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tennessee-house-votes-make-bible-official-state-book


Calling me a lair?

Everything I stated in the OP was true.....ASSHOLE!

That is what you usually are......

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 11:41:02 AM   
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The Holy Bible!

Even though it violates the state and federal laws on the 'separation of Church and State', Tennessee Republicans pushed to make the Holy Bible the official book for the state. Knowing that they would be violating the law, these people voted on the bill anyways. After all, whose going to prosecute them? The Republican Party in the state?

What should happen to those who knowingly violate the law, do it for their political/religious reasons?



Isn't the Bible a book?
Doesn't it count as literature?
Hasn't it influenced several societies?
Where did they say that anyone had to accept it as "gospel"?



Well the thread title was a lie, why would you expect anything else he posted to be any different. And according to this link it wasn't even a close vote.

Tennessee’s House of Representatives will not make the Holy Bible the official state book after lawmakers defeated the proposal 22-9 on Wednesday, according to The Tennessean newspaper.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tennessee-house-votes-make-bible-official-state-book



Come on now facts? He is wise enough to see past them, just ask him.


If I stated a lie....SHOW WERE THE FUCKING LIE IS....ASSHOLE!

You cant. You know it, and I know it! Because the link shows the evidence. Problem you usually have is accepting reality because its often inconvenient to your petty political views.

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 11:47:44 AM   
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I wish people would understand what the text of the first amendment is.

Short of that, I wish they'd show me where, in the constitution, is the phrase: "separation of church and state" (Bonus points if they can tell me, without benefit of google, whence that phrase actually originates).

God bless us, one and all.

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I'm sure you'll get a chuckle out of some right-winger's 'understanding' of its origins....

However, as the history teacher points out:

"Tea Party candidate for Delaware congress, Glen Urquhart, telling voters that the phrase "separation of church and state" came from Adolph Hitler.

The teacher who contradicts Urquhart in the video is correct. Here is Thomas Jefferson's full quote - written 87 years before the birth of Adolf Hitler:

Believing that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. -Thomas Jefferson.

Didn't use goggle! This one comes from my collection of 'Tea Party Great Moments' collection......

Also, the letter was sent to the Danbury Baptists if I remember correctly. If your looking for a date, THAT, I would have to google...


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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 11:55:57 AM   
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the fact that it got thru the house yesterday and failed passage in the senate last night and they have sent it back to committee for a year......seems to have escaped some of you.....I suspect in your hurry to call Joe a liar....
well done, now do ya want a medal or chest to pin one on?


No, they just want to insult, because they think its 'OK' to do towards others. They dont have the evidence on their side often times, so they resort to insulting someone.

Yes, fortunately other people in that state came to their senses and down voted the issue. But the point of the thread is: Here are Republicans wasting resources to push an ideology that the state can not defend in court. A bill pass for political points, NOT, good government. Why hire people that do not practice good government?

Maybe those Tennessee Republicans need to live under a monarchy again.....

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 11:58:07 AM   
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As we know CD... there is no cure for the human condition. All we can do is take our medicine of respect, charity, and fairness and hope it keeps us alive.

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So what your saying is all those Republicans at the federal level, and most at state levels, are just zombies?

Of all the places the zombie apocalypse would start, never would I think it started in government....

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 12:12:47 PM   
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the fact that it got thru the house yesterday and failed passage in the senate last night and they have sent it back to committee for a year......seems to have escaped some of you.....I suspect in your hurry to call Joe a liar....
well done, now do ya want a medal or chest to pin one on?


No, they just want to insult, because they think its 'OK' to do towards others. They dont have the evidence on their side often times, so they resort to insulting someone.

Yes, fortunately other people in that state came to their senses and down voted the issue. But the point of the thread is: Here are Republicans wasting resources to push an ideology that the state can not defend in court. A bill pass for political points, NOT, good government. Why hire people that do not practice good government?

Maybe those Tennessee Republicans need to live under a monarchy again.....


So the Holy Bible is NOT the Tennessee State book?

But you started a thread saying that it was?

Is that not a lie then?


Oh. . . and bills pass for political points all the time. Or should we cancel Thanksgiving and MLK day now? What about all the Gay Pride Days and Weeks? Those are usually a bill or government decree. Should we end those as well? Twit.

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 12:14:01 PM   
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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 12:28:05 PM   
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The Holy Bible!

Even though it violates the state and federal laws on the 'separation of Church and State', Tennessee Republicans pushed to make the Holy Bible the official book for the state. Knowing that they would be violating the law, these people voted on the bill anyways. After all, whose going to prosecute them? The Republican Party in the state?

What should happen to those who knowingly violate the law, do it for their political/religious reasons?



Isn't the Bible a book?
Doesn't it count as literature?
Hasn't it influenced several societies?
Where did they say that anyone had to accept it as "gospel"?



Well the thread title was a lie, why would you expect anything else he posted to be any different. And according to this link it wasn't even a close vote.

Tennessee’s House of Representatives will not make the Holy Bible the official state book after lawmakers defeated the proposal 22-9 on Wednesday, according to The Tennessean newspaper.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tennessee-house-votes-make-bible-official-state-book



Come on now facts? He is wise enough to see past them, just ask him.


If I stated a lie....SHOW WERE THE FUCKING LIE IS....ASSHOLE!

You cant. You know it, and I know it! Because the link shows the evidence. Problem you usually have is accepting reality because its often inconvenient to your petty political views.



"Tennessee state book is.... The Holy Bible."


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: joether
The Holy Bible!

Even though it violates the state and federal laws on the 'separation of Church and State', Tennessee Republicans pushed to make the Holy Bible the official book for the state. Knowing that they would be violating the law, these people voted on the bill anyways. After all, whose going to prosecute them? The Republican Party in the state?

What should happen to those who knowingly violate the law, do it for their political/religious reasons?



Isn't the Bible a book?
Doesn't it count as literature?
Hasn't it influenced several societies?
Where did they say that anyone had to accept it as "gospel"?



Well the thread title was a lie, why would you expect anything else he posted to be any different. And according to this link it wasn't even a close vote.

Tennessee’s House of Representatives will not make the Holy Bible the official state book after lawmakers defeated the proposal 22-9 on Wednesday, according to The Tennessean newspaper.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tennessee-house-votes-make-bible-official-state-book


Calling me a lair?

Everything I stated in the OP was true.....ASSHOLE!

That is what you usually are......


No. The Holy Bible is NOT the state book of Tennessee.

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 2:33:32 PM   
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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 2:59:58 PM   
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The fact of the matter is it is a religion.....as such it's bible should not be named a state book.
It shouldn't even have been voted on....what the fuck is wrong with folks ?
Here we are living in a time when religious intolerance is the biggest issue we have,the cause of countless headlines detailing horrible atrocities and some shit ass politician in Tennessee thinks naming a religious text a state book is a good idea ?
WTF is wrong with you people(you being anyone who thinks this is a good idea )
We are indeed,in many ways,an exceptional nation....separation,that absolute wall that Jefferson talked of,is essential to that position.
Squandering that advantage would be monumentally stupid.

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 3:06:36 PM   
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the fact that it got thru the house yesterday and failed passage in the senate last night and they have sent it back to committee for a year......seems to have escaped some of you.....I suspect in your hurry to call Joe a liar....
well done, now do ya want a medal or chest to pin one on?


No, they just want to insult, because they think its 'OK' to do towards others. They dont have the evidence on their side often times, so they resort to insulting someone.

Yes, fortunately other people in that state came to their senses and down voted the issue. But the point of the thread is: Here are Republicans wasting resources to push an ideology that the state can not defend in court. A bill pass for political points, NOT, good government. Why hire people that do not practice good government?

Maybe those Tennessee Republicans need to live under a monarchy again.....

You understand that Lucy says it DID NOT pass. You said it did. In her rush to defend you and insult others, Lucy accidentally proved your thread TITLE...AND the three words that ended it (because I know that argument is coming soon: "but my thread TITLE was JUST The Tennessee state book is...")IS a lie.

So...if your original premise is that the Tenessee state book is the Bible, you are mistaken ...or lying. Or, if Lucy's premise is that it failed by vote to become the Tennessee state book, then she is mistaken ...or lying.

Given Lucy's record on the board...even though I disagree with her most of the time...I'd bet in this case, she was NEITHER mistaken or lying. You...on the other hand...were.

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/17/2015 4:58:57 PM   
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I wish people would understand what the text of the first amendment is.

Short of that, I wish they'd show me where, in the constitution, is the phrase: "separation of church and state" (Bonus points if they can tell me, without benefit of google, whence that phrase actually originates).

God bless us, one and all.



Michael

It isn't in the Constitution, it was in a letter that Jefferson wrote to Adams (the elder).


The original concept was in a work by John Locke in England. I have not googled so cant tell you the name of his work.

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/18/2015 4:47:44 AM   
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They have state flowers, dinosaurs, trees, foods, animals, songs, birds, dances, fish, insect, gems, yadda yadda, and the list goes on. Why NOT a state book?
We have a STATE VEGETABLE!
And you find a state choosing a BOOK, to be wrong?
Just cannot get away from wrongthought and wrongfun. *sigh*
I wonder if all the people that do not like onions are feeling left out now? The newest micro-aggression?


Just because there is an official State whatever, doesn't mean it's right to have an official State whatever.

As far as the onion portion goes, do people who like "red onions" feel discriminated against?



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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/18/2015 4:54:47 AM   
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They have state flowers, dinosaurs, trees, foods, animals, songs, birds, dances, fish, insect, gems, yadda yadda, and the list goes on. Why NOT a state book?
We have a STATE VEGETABLE!
And you find a state choosing a BOOK, to be wrong?
Just cannot get away from wrongthought and wrongfun. *sigh*
I wonder if all the people that do not like onions are feeling left out now? The newest micro-aggression?


Just because there is an official State whatever, doesn't mean it's right to have an official State whatever.

As far as the onion portion goes, do people who like "red onions" feel discriminated against?




Probably at least the growers of red onions feel that way.

Of course a lot of little boys are going to be very sad if we take away all of the state dinosaurs.

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/18/2015 5:02:32 AM   
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They have state flowers, dinosaurs, trees, foods, animals, songs, birds, dances, fish, insect, gems, yadda yadda, and the list goes on. Why NOT a state book?
We have a STATE VEGETABLE!
And you find a state choosing a BOOK, to be wrong?
Just cannot get away from wrongthought and wrongfun. *sigh*
I wonder if all the people that do not like onions are feeling left out now? The newest micro-aggression?


Just because there is an official State whatever, doesn't mean it's right to have an official State whatever.

As far as the onion portion goes, do people who like "red onions" feel discriminated against?





could somebody please explain to a foreigner, why your states have all this? does it mean something? does it serve a purpose? is it of any importance?

I can not remember other countries having such including mine, and nobody seems to have missed something like that so far here

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/18/2015 5:52:42 AM   
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They have state flowers, dinosaurs, trees, foods, animals, songs, birds, dances, fish, insect, gems, yadda yadda, and the list goes on. Why NOT a state book?
We have a STATE VEGETABLE!
And you find a state choosing a BOOK, to be wrong?
Just cannot get away from wrongthought and wrongfun. *sigh*
I wonder if all the people that do not like onions are feeling left out now? The newest micro-aggression?

Just because there is an official State whatever, doesn't mean it's right to have an official State whatever.
As far as the onion portion goes, do people who like "red onions" feel discriminated against?

could somebody please explain to a foreigner, why your states have all this? does it mean something? does it serve a purpose? is it of any importance?
I can not remember other countries having such including mine, and nobody seems to have missed something like that so far here


It's not really a big deal or anything. Usually it's something to honor a native thing. There was a flap in Ohio over the official state sausage. Schmitt's meats "Bahama Mama" was nominated by the Ohio legislator from that District. Of course that didn't sit well with the legislator from the Toledo area, home of Tony Packo's.




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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/18/2015 6:09:07 AM   
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I looked up my home countries, "national symbols" the UK has the oak as its national tree, the national anthem, even a national bird and animal(wren and lion)
Canada has the maple leaf, hockey(sport) beaver is the national animal, and each province has different symbols, Ontario where I live now, has a flower, bird, etc...
I peeked at your profile and saw that you are from germany?
Again, the national anthem, flag, tree(which is the oak) coat of arms...not as many as other places, but i didnt look deep
I see it as a notably different way of showing "pride" that makes your state/country different to other regions, nations or states...
just my two cents:)


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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/18/2015 6:11:39 AM   
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could somebody please explain to a foreigner, why your states have all this? does it mean something? does it serve a purpose? is it of any importance?
I can not remember other countries having such including mine, and nobody seems to have missed something like that so far here


It's not really a big deal or anything. Usually it's something to honor a native thing. There was a flap in Ohio over the official state sausage. Schmitt's meats "Bahama Mama" was nominated by the Ohio legislator from that District. Of course that didn't sit well with the legislator from the Toledo area, home of Tony Packo's.




lol really? I dont remember flaps about symbols like that, but it wouldnt surprise me if there had been. I must admit, its not something I take much notice of.

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RE: Tennessee state book is.... - 4/18/2015 6:26:04 AM   
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Im not talking for the US people here Missies,
I looked up my home countries, "national symbols" the UK has the oak as its national tree, the national anthem, even a national bird and animal(wren and lion)
Canada has the maple leaf, hockey(sport) beaver is the national animal, and each province has different symbols, Ontario where I live now, has a flower, bird, etc...
I peeked at your profile and saw that you are from germany?
Again, the national anthem, flag, tree(which is the oak) coat of arms...not as many as other places, but i didnt look deep
I see it as a notably different way of showing "pride" that makes your state/country different to other regions, nations or states...
just my two cents:)



The beaver is the national animal... fuck... I'm moving to Canada.

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