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missiesfavourite -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/18/2015 6:35:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Im not talking for the US people here Missies,
I looked up my home countries, "national symbols" the UK has the oak as its national tree, the national anthem, even a national bird and animal(wren and lion)
Canada has the maple leaf, hockey(sport) beaver is the national animal, and each province has different symbols, Ontario where I live now, has a flower, bird, etc...
I peeked at your profile and saw that you are from germany?
Again, the national anthem, flag, tree(which is the oak) coat of arms...not as many as other places, but i didnt look deep
I see it as a notably different way of showing "pride" that makes your state/country different to other regions, nations or states...
just my two cents:)


that's why I wondered about purpose(s) ... flags and anthems are widespread, and coats of arms probably served some purpose once if only as on a signpost for the illiterate or a sign on the shield in medieval battle whose arm or head you are about to chop off ...

but I still can hardly see any sense in a state book, or (pardon me Desideriscudi - a state sausage - does it mean that a state patriot has to eat only that one instead of others?) ... a state tree (I don't think the oak has any offical status here - lots of poems about deutsche eiche, deutscher wald for sure though - and not to forget as an old fashioned pub name) ... and most of these other things mentioned

but if politicians spend their time and energy (and tax money paying for all that) on making these things official, and state laws and all that - there should be some good reasons for that, and I 'd really like to know them






CreativeDominant -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/18/2015 8:17:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Im not talking for the US people here Missies,
I looked up my home countries, "national symbols" the UK has the oak as its national tree, the national anthem, even a national bird and animal(wren and lion)
Canada has the maple leaf, hockey(sport) beaver is the national animal, and each province has different symbols, Ontario where I live now, has a flower, bird, etc...
I peeked at your profile and saw that you are from germany?
Again, the national anthem, flag, tree(which is the oak) coat of arms...not as many as other places, but i didnt look deep
I see it as a notably different way of showing "pride" that makes your state/country different to other regions, nations or states...
just my two cents:)



[sm=jaw.gif] The beaver is the national animal... fuck... I'm moving to Canada.

Don't forget, Tyrant...one of the Canadian delicacies es jellies beaver tail ( tongue firmly in cheek)




ExiledTyrant -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/18/2015 8:23:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Don't forget, Tyrant...one of the Canadian delicacies es jellies beaver tail ( tongue firmly in cheek)


Okay, America isn't so great... I mean, beaver tail jelly is a delicacy anywhere, but a national FAVORITE in Canada! 58 US states pales by comparison.

Jus sayin




Aylee -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/18/2015 8:41:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: missiesfavourite

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Im not talking for the US people here Missies,
I looked up my home countries, "national symbols" the UK has the oak as its national tree, the national anthem, even a national bird and animal(wren and lion)
Canada has the maple leaf, hockey(sport) beaver is the national animal, and each province has different symbols, Ontario where I live now, has a flower, bird, etc...
I peeked at your profile and saw that you are from germany?
Again, the national anthem, flag, tree(which is the oak) coat of arms...not as many as other places, but i didnt look deep
I see it as a notably different way of showing "pride" that makes your state/country different to other regions, nations or states...
just my two cents:)


that's why I wondered about purpose(s) ... flags and anthems are widespread, and coats of arms probably served some purpose once if only as on a signpost for the illiterate or a sign on the shield in medieval battle whose arm or head you are about to chop off ...

but I still can hardly see any sense in a state book, or (pardon me Desideriscudi - a state sausage - does it mean that a state patriot has to eat only that one instead of others?) ... a state tree (I don't think the oak has any offical status here - lots of poems about deutsche eiche, deutscher wald for sure though - and not to forget as an old fashioned pub name) ... and most of these other things mentioned

but if politicians spend their time and energy (and tax money paying for all that) on making these things official, and state laws and all that - there should be some good reasons for that, and I 'd really like to know them





Well, if they are creating state symbols they are NOT creating screwed-up laws. WIN!

All of it is really only important in fourth grade but it does make up a part of each state's "lore."

Hence my non-concern over which book a state may choose to make its "State Book."




slvemike4u -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/18/2015 9:01:00 AM)

I would join you in that non concerness....right up to the point when some asshole puts forth the Bible or the Koran as the state book.
At that point see the work of fundamentalism and that is worrisome.




MercTech -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/18/2015 2:43:36 PM)

Some seem to have missed the fine print.

The Tennessee legislature chose to honor a famous Tennessean, Andrew Jackson, by making his personal bible the Tennessee State Book.

It is just a bit of "feel good" legislation that many state governing bodies occasionally indulge in. And often, it makes no sense at all to someone tho didn't grown up with that state's history and culture. We are talking about the time of Davy Crockett, Daniel Boone, "Old Hickory" Jackson and the Creek rebellion.

Whether it stands a legal test or not; it is just feel-good tripe that gets the originators of the bill in good graces with the extremely religious constituents.




Aylee -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/18/2015 3:57:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Some seem to have missed the fine print.

The Tennessee legislature chose to honor a famous Tennessean, Andrew Jackson, by making his personal bible the Tennessee State Book.

It is just a bit of "feel good" legislation that many state governing bodies occasionally indulge in. And often, it makes no sense at all to someone tho didn't grown up with that state's history and culture. We are talking about the time of Davy Crockett, Daniel Boone, "Old Hickory" Jackson and the Creek rebellion.

Whether it stands a legal test or not; it is just feel-good tripe that gets the originators of the bill in good graces with the extremely religious constituents.


Wait. . . it is a specific Bible? Not just "Bible in general"?

This seems to make it even less of something to really care much about.




thishereboi -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/18/2015 4:06:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: joether
The Holy Bible!

Even though it violates the state and federal laws on the 'separation of Church and State', Tennessee Republicans pushed to make the Holy Bible the official book for the state. Knowing that they would be violating the law, these people voted on the bill anyways. After all, whose going to prosecute them? The Republican Party in the state?

What should happen to those who knowingly violate the law, do it for their political/religious reasons?



Isn't the Bible a book?
Doesn't it count as literature?
Hasn't it influenced several societies?
Where did they say that anyone had to accept it as "gospel"?



Well the thread title was a lie, why would you expect anything else he posted to be any different. And according to this link it wasn't even a close vote.

Tennessee’s House of Representatives will not make the Holy Bible the official state book after lawmakers defeated the proposal 22-9 on Wednesday, according to The Tennessean newspaper.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tennessee-house-votes-make-bible-official-state-book


Calling me a lair?

Everything I stated in the OP was true.....ASSHOLE!

That is what you usually are......


According to your thread title and op the Tennessee state book is the bible. According to your link it isn't. If you can't see the lie in that then I don't know how to help you. Perhaps some english comprehension classes.




slvemike4u -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/18/2015 7:25:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

Some seem to have missed the fine print.

The Tennessee legislature chose to honor a famous Tennessean, Andrew Jackson, by making his personal bible the Tennessee State Book.

It is just a bit of "feel good" legislation that many state governing bodies occasionally indulge in. And often, it makes no sense at all to someone tho didn't grown up with that state's history and culture. We are talking about the time of Davy Crockett, Daniel Boone, "Old Hickory" Jackson and the Creek rebellion.

Whether it stands a legal test or not; it is just feel-good tripe that gets the originators of the bill in good graces with the extremely religious constituents.


Wait. . . it is a specific Bible? Not just "Bible in general"?

This seems to make it even less of something to really care much about.

Agreed....reluctantly




DesideriScuri -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/18/2015 8:25:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missiesfavourite
that's why I wondered about purpose(s) ... flags and anthems are widespread, and coats of arms probably served some purpose once if only as on a signpost for the illiterate or a sign on the shield in medieval battle whose arm or head you are about to chop off ...
but I still can hardly see any sense in a state book, or (pardon me Desideriscudi - a state sausage - does it mean that a state patriot has to eat only that one instead of others?) ... a state tree (I don't think the oak has any offical status here - lots of poems about deutsche eiche, deutscher wald for sure though - and not to forget as an old fashioned pub name) ... and most of these other things mentioned
but if politicians spend their time and energy (and tax money paying for all that) on making these things official, and state laws and all that - there should be some good reasons for that, and I 'd really like to know them


1. It's US politics, so it doesn't really have to make sense (to a foreigner, or to a US citizen). lol
2. It's just a "feel-good" thing that truly means next to nothing (I suppose a product being the official state product would be able to use that in advertising, but that'd be it).
3. It's more of a "proclamation," and not a law.
4. Reread #1 above and understand that they don't need any good reasons. I suppose Schmidt's Meat's District representative gets some publicity, and might get some backing by showing his pride in a manufacturer in his District.




MercTech -> RE: Tennessee state book is.... (4/19/2015 12:44:18 AM)

It is just a bit of flummery like giving someone the "Keys to the City". I don't think that term has actually had a real value context since the 30 years war when giving an approaching army the keys to the gate was done in surrender.




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