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Personally, I think Ron is on the right track. Eliminate the jobs, and you will eliminate the illegal workers. You wouldn't have to prosecute ALL of the illegals. If you find and prosecute just one or two illegals for any one business, then throw heavy fines and/or sanctions against that employer for that one or two illegal workers, either the business owner would have to eliminate the rest of the illegals to avoid further fines and sanctions, or possibly face the eventuality of having his business shut down due to continued fines and sanctions. Then, the rest of the illegal workers won't need to be caught, fined, housed, and (eventually) deported. With no jobs any more they will find their own way back across the border.
I know that these people come to the U.S. to find a "better life". I know that there are jobs many employers want to fill with low wage workers. I also believe that there are more than enough people that want to come to the country LEGALLY to fill those jobs. So, why not make those jobs available to the people that want to come here by following the rules and regulations rather than to give those jobs to people, that by the very fact that they are here illegally, are criminals? Why promote their illegal activities? Seems to me that rewarding illegal activities just promotes having them break even more laws in the future.
Here is a little tale as an example of what could be done without prosecuting all of the illegals. The winter of '76-'77 I worked at a sugar beet processing plant in SW Idaho. They ran three shifts, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week during the beet season. One morning I went to work and the place was strangely quiet. During the night shift, Immigration had made a raid on the place. The building is 5 stories tall (or was at the time) and some of the people would go onto the roof for their smoke breaks. During the raid, people on the roof said the fields surrounding the sugar plant looked like an ant hill with all of the illegals running away. With none of them left, the legal workers had to shut the plant down to a skeleton crew level. To the best of my knowledge, the company faced no fines or penalties of any sort. But imagine having to shut down to a skeleton crew even once a week AND facing fines and penalties. In very short order it would have been impractical and not profitable for the company to hire the illegal workers in the first place. And not being able to work there, and other companies not willing to hire them, their only real recourse would have been to return to Mexico. LEGAL immigrants would then have had more job opportunities, and the immigration process could probably have been sped up to accommodate them.
Another point to make. . .
For many of the immigrant workers, legal or not, most of the money they make does not stay in the U.S. economy. In the same community where the sugar factory is located, there is one grocery store in particular that, even though their prices are higher than most other grocery stores in the area, they attract the business of the migrant workers through their customer service of cashing and/or processing the migrant workers checks. Nothing wrong with that. But more than once I happened to be there on a Friday late afternoon, when droves of migrant workers would be there to cash in their earnings. MOST of them were trading most or all of their pay checks for money orders that they could send home to Mexico for their families. Now, that is an honorable thing to do. There are a lot of deadbeat dads that could learn a lesson from them. But, personally, I would like to see that money stay in the local economy. Make it easier for the LEGAL immigrants to come here AND bring their families so that the local economy can grow and prosper.
Just my opinion. Yours may, and probably will, vary.
First, I am all for legal immigration.
Second you can't say there is no problem with them being here but we will fine you for giving them a job.
You have to start prosecuting illegals to prosecute the employers.
If you go into a business and prosecute 2 of the 20 illegals you are discriminating.
If you prosecute all of them, then make an example of the employer you send a message to other employers.
It still starts with prosecuting illegals, not finding a "path to citizenship" (code for amnesty) there is a path. Enter the country legally and follow the rules. No path can be quicker from the time it is begun than the path for legal immigration.
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