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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 6:38:02 PM   
ChrchofDrk


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Have you stopped beating your wife?


Huh? WTF? When did I ever beat my wife?

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 6:40:44 PM   
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Mike... our high ground was lost with eight years of Bush... too damn late now. Obama has not recovered any high ground either. We are dirty and we may as well wallow in the mud pit with the rest of them.

Butch


I most certainly agree with ya there Butch

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 6:41:45 PM   
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Mike...here... I've some tissue for you ... OHHHHH the humanity

Butch

Save your tissues Butch,I've no need for them


There's a quote that I can't quite remember .....about doing battle with monsters and be wary that you don't turn into one.

That's my only point here.....my humanity will survive their atrocities.


That's important to me...not so much to others ,but that's alright.


Are you referring to Sun Tzu: "Choose your enemies well, for you will come to resemble them."

Or Friedrich Nietzsche: "He who who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

??

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 6:43:54 PM   
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Maybe you guys could get together and have a circle jerk while you watch 24 hour news coverage ?


so you're sayin you support what ISIS and the Taliban do slvemike4u?


Have you stopped beating your wife?

Well she up and left me....so I sort of had no other choice.


Hard to beat her when she runs away

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 6:44:23 PM   
Aylee


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Have you stopped beating your wife?


Huh? WTF? When did I ever beat my wife?


You assumed that Mike supported ISIS or the Taliban because of his pacifism. I assumed you beat your wife. Ya see how that works? It is one of those fallacy thingies.

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 6:45:45 PM   
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I feel we hold the moral high ground


Mike... our high ground was lost with eight years of Bush... too damn late now. Obama has not recovered any high ground either. We are dirty and we may as well wallow in the mud pit with the rest of them.

Butch

Im real surprised Butch.....It shocks me that you don't feel we currently hold the higher moral ground when compared to the scum of ISIS and Al Queda
Really shocked

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 6:45:55 PM   
kdsub


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Status: offline 		Better each other than us don't you think? I will admit it...I am a vengeful person and I would laugh and point and crap on their graves after a pork chop meal if they killed each other...but...I would pray for forgiveness and for God to had mercy on their souls.

I do dislike the hate that burns in me at times and I do fight it but i am at least honest and up front about it.

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 6:50:02 PM   
kdsub


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Status: offline 		No Mike I am ashamed of our actions...before Bush and his torture goons I felt we were better... now I have lost trust in our moral superiority. I see little difference in cutting heads off and torture... how about you?

Butch

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 6:53:30 PM   
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You assumed that Mike supported ISIS or the Taliban because of his pacifism. I assumed you beat your wife. Ya see how that works? It is one of those fallacy thingies.


Actually I was pickin on Mike cause of his pacifism and I truly wonder if he'd feel the same way if one of those beheaded was his son. Would he stand by his convictions then? I think not but then that's just a guess since I know Mike not at all

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 6:54:35 PM   
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Mike...here... I've some tissue for you ... OHHHHH the humanity

Butch

Save your tissues Butch,I've no need for them


There's a quote that I can't quite remember .....about doing battle with monsters and be wary that you don't turn into one.

That's my only point here.....my humanity will survive their atrocities.


That's important to me...not so much to others ,but that's alright.


Are you referring to Sun Tzu: "Choose your enemies well, for you will come to resemble them."

Or Friedrich Nietzsche: "He who who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

??

It was Nietzsche I was thinking of....thanks


And that right there is my only point here....I have no love for the monsters of either organization,but I do love the idea of us as an exceptional country.

What happens say when CNN can broadcast footage of demonstrations in Washington Square Park where everyday Americans chant blood oaths at our enemies. Wishing death and mayhem ,not a pretty picture right ?

No ,one wishes to see that,right ?

So why come to a message board beating your chest over the thought of two more groups in this world going at each other

It's just one step closer to a street demonstration,no ?

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 7:05:46 PM   
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You assumed that Mike supported ISIS or the Taliban because of his pacifism. I assumed you beat your wife. Ya see how that works? It is one of those fallacy thingies.


Actually I was pickin on Mike cause of his pacifism and I truly wonder if he'd feel the same way if one of those beheaded was his son. Would he stand by his convictions then? I think not but then that's just a guess since I know Mike not at all


That is not a fair comparison.

If Mohammed Jihadi Kaboom kills Mohammed Kaboom Jihadi in Eastfuckistan, neither are a member of his tribe. So. . . it really has no effect on him.

If Mohammed Jihadi Kaboom leaves Westfuckistan and beheads his son, THEN you have his tribe involved and it WILL have an effect. Of course he will feel differently. Now. . . will he still be a pacifist? No one knows.

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 7:15:39 PM   
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No Mike I am ashamed of our actions...before Bush and his torture goons I felt we were better... now I have lost trust in our moral superiority. I see little difference in cutting heads off and torture... how about you?

Butch

Well that's that right there too

I remember when that shit was being tossed around washington.I remeber coming here and screaming I didn't want my country,my exceptional country,to codify torture.
But the bastards went and did it anyway didn't they ?

I'm now supposed to,as a result of that,expect less of my country,ask less of it.

Fuck that,I still hold the same ideals I held when it was water boarding being discussed.

I didn't like that and I see no reason to do an Irish jig over this shit either

Just to be clear,I'm not a pacifist.....I just draw the line at being bloodthirsty.

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 7:31:51 PM   
DaddySatyr


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No Mike I am ashamed of our actions...before Bush and his torture goons I felt we were better... now I have lost trust in our moral superiority. I see little difference in cutting heads off and torture... how about you?

Butch


Well, technically, with the latter, the victim is alive when the "festivities" are ended (although some might argue that the victim is better off, dead?).



Michael

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 7:36:31 PM   
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No Mike I am ashamed of our actions...before Bush and his torture goons I felt we were better... now I have lost trust in our moral superiority. I see little difference in cutting heads off and torture... how about you?

Butch


Well, technically, with the latter, the victim is alive when the "festivities" are ended (although some might argue that the victim is better off, dead?).



Michael

Now is that really the attitude you want all of your fellow citizens walking around with.

If so,why aren't we all taking to the streets and printing up placards ?

Perhaps we can get some audio equipment,some loudspeakers and get some chants going.

We can show the bastards who's who.

We'll show them bastards

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 7:41:44 PM   
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Even though I got no love for the parties involved.....I still find it unseemly to celebrate death,violence and war.

I feel we hold the moral high ground and see no reason to squander that advantage.

If others choose to put their humanity aside there's not much I can do about it,but keeping silent has never been my strong suit

Who are you talking about? Who is celebrating death, violence, and war? And over who, precisely, do you imagine yourself to hold the moral high ground? Any time the planet's violent lunatics turn to killing each other instead of everybody else, it is a net gain for humanity. Not as good as them all singing Kumbaya, but a definite plus. There is no celebration of death and violence in that. You're feverish.

K.

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 7:55:17 PM   
kdsub


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Status: offline 		Well first Mike I do believe we are in a war...and in a war the ONLY way to win is to kill your enemy... that is survival not bloodthirsty. Dead is dead and it makes no difference if I celebrate it and you don't... it is all the same to the dead... So unless you are a pacifist that wants men to fight your wars for you then you should get off the high horse because you are no better than them.

Butch

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 8:16:29 PM   
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Even though I got no love for the parties involved.....I still find it unseemly to celebrate death,violence and war.

I feel we hold the moral high ground and see no reason to squander that advantage.

If others choose to put their humanity aside there's not much I can do about it,but keeping silent has never been my strong suit

Who are you talking about? Who is celebrating death, violence, and war? And over who, precisely, do you imagine yourself to hold the moral high ground? Any time the planet's violent lunatics turn to killing each other instead of everybody else, it is a net gain for humanity. Not as good as them all singing Kumbaya, but a definite plus. There is no celebration of death and violence in that. You're feverish.

K.


Not me...but I'm sure a few posters have their blood up

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 8:21:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Even though I got no love for the parties involved.....I still find it unseemly to celebrate death,violence and war.

I feel we hold the moral high ground and see no reason to squander that advantage.

If others choose to put their humanity aside there's not much I can do about it,but keeping silent has never been my strong suit

Who are you talking about? Who is celebrating death, violence, and war? And over who, precisely, do you imagine yourself to hold the moral high ground? Any time the planet's violent lunatics turn to killing each other instead of everybody else, it is a net gain for humanity. Not as good as them all singing Kumbaya, but a definite plus. There is no celebration of death and violence in that. You're feverish.

Not me...but I'm sure a few posters have their blood up

Yeah, you.

K.

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 8:26:58 PM   
kdsub


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Status: offline 		I'm just curious Mike... how did you feel when Bin Laden was killed? Did you celebrate... did you say YEA to yourself? I will bet you did and this news is no different... Did you berate others for celebrating his death? I sure don't remember that if you did... but I could be wrong. Otherwise why now? what is different?

Butch

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RE: ISIS and Taliban declare Jihad... against each other - 4/21/2015 8:28:05 PM   
slvemike4u


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No skin off my nose,some people need to be told shit a few times before it catches on......you must be one of those folks


Other than that have a fine evening......lol

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