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Sanity -> Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/12/2015 7:27:41 PM)


Biggest thing since Obamacare: You like your job, you get to keep your job - honest.

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Obama Hurls Insults at Liberals on Trade

Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics, sparking fury among President's base

President Obama’s performance in pushing for approval of fast track legislation of the Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal, in which he’s allied with Republicans and has spent the last week castigating and insulting liberal Democrats, has been one of the most bizarre and ill-advised performances of his presidency.

Read more at http://observer.com/2015/05/obama-hurls-insults-at-liberals-on-trade/#ixzz3Zyu9sVzX


The trade deal has been called "secretive" and Warren especially has been going after Obama on it, while Obama and the Republicans are suddenly BFF with an ick factor of 9.

Really need to get a room




HunterCA -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/12/2015 8:06:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Biggest thing since Obamacare: You like your job, you get to keep your job - honest.

quote:


Obama Hurls Insults at Liberals on Trade

Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics, sparking fury among President's base

President Obama’s performance in pushing for approval of fast track legislation of the Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal, in which he’s allied with Republicans and has spent the last week castigating and insulting liberal Democrats, has been one of the most bizarre and ill-advised performances of his presidency.

Read more at http://observer.com/2015/05/obama-hurls-insults-at-liberals-on-trade/#ixzz3Zyu9sVzX


The trade deal has been called "secretive" and Warren especially has been going after Obama on it, while Obama and the Republicans are suddenly BFF with an ick factor of 9.

Really need to get a room


Ummm, I'll let this brew with the kool aide drinkers for a while. I sure they'll jump in and attack you from one end or another.




MrRodgers -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 12:37:45 AM)

Of course their ignorant, thinking that this country isn't sincerely motivated almost exclusively by profits and that all people are to continually worship at the alter of the profit motive and a maximized profit at that.

Though I do think part of that ignorance is that they sincerely do believe even if erroneously, that they can still do something about that...through politics.




mnottertail -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 7:48:13 AM)

Uh, the op article is dogshit, no such thing occurred in all the politics of it.

However, I am glad that after the rabid rightwing solyndra cowardice, that since they are not going to pair some retaliatory language in that fast track bill, that it won't happen, since the constitutional authority was not invoked in the solyndra cowardice, and executive order wont cut it.

We should dump NAFTA AND GATT while we are at it. And if this country is going to fall to free market communism as the rabid right wing now wants after being against it before they were for it, then insure the free market, not this grand rabid right wing giveaway and destruction of America we have now.





Sanity -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 7:53:09 AM)


FR

Democrats - the party of "no"

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Obama, McConnell missteps undercut trade pact in Senate

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama and Senator Mitch McConnell have seldom worked together and it showed on Tuesday, when the political odd couple failed to persuade the U.S. Senate to move forward with a Pacific Rim trade treaty they both favor.

By hitting the brakes, at least for now, on the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) at the center of Obama's legacy-defining foreign policy pivot to Asia, Senate Democrats put the president and Senate Republican Leader McConnell on notice.

Despite losing control of the Senate in November's elections, Democrats showed they can and will block legislation that they dislike as effectively as Republicans did for years, ending a brief, recent run of bipartisan achievements...


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/obama-mcconnell-missteps-undercut-trade-pact-u-senate-001204407.html

There you have it

The country was practically swimming in bipartisan achievements until Harry Reid went and fucked the whole thing up

/Thick, heavy sarcasm




Aylee -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 8:07:32 AM)

Liberals eat their own.




Sanity -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 8:07:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Uh, the op article is dogshit, no such thing occurred in all the politics of it.

However, I am glad that after the rabid rightwing solyndra cowardice, that since they are not going to pair some retaliatory language in that fast track bill, that it won't happen, since the constitutional authority was not invoked in the solyndra cowardice, and executive order wont cut it.

We should dump NAFTA AND GATT while we are at it. And if this country is going to fall to free market communism as the rabid right wing now wants after being against it before they were for it, then insure the free market, not this grand rabid right wing giveaway and destruction of America we have now.




From Philly.com:

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Obama mocks the opposition


Let's suppose you are trying to bring a friend around to your point of view.

Would you tell her she's emotional, illogical, outdated, and not very smart? Would you complain that he's being dishonest, fabricating falsehoods, and denying reality with his knee-jerk response?

Such a method of a persuasion is likelier to get you a black eye than a convert. Yet this is how President Obama treats his fellow party members on trade - and why he faced a Democratic filibuster Tuesday.

The vast majority of lawmakers in his own party oppose him on trade legislation. Yet rather than accept that they have a legitimate beef, he shows public contempt for them - as he did in an interview with Matt Bai of Yahoo News released over the weekend.

"Their arguments are based on fears, or they're fighting NAFTA, the trade deal that was passed 25 years ago - or 20 years ago," he said with a laugh. Sighing, he added, "I understand the emotions behind it, but when you break down the logic of their arguments, I've got to say that there's not much there there." He said one of his Democratic critics' arguments "doesn't make any sense," another is "pure speculation," and others are "made up" or unrealistic.

"There's no logic that I think a progressive should embrace that would make you opposed to this deal," he said, accusing those who disagree of taking the "not smart" position of trying to "ignore the fact that a global economy is here to stay" and of acting to "shrink the overall economic pie just because we're mad about some things that have happened in the past."

The rhetoric suggests that Obama has given up trying to persuade Democrats to join him in supporting "fast-track" approval of the emerging Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal and that he's lashing out at them in anger. Without Democratic support, the fast-track legislation faces a tough slog on Capitol Hill, especially in the House.

If Obama loses on trade, blame should go to the twin pillars of detachment that have underpinned his presidency: insularity and secrecy.

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/20150513_Obama_mocks_the_opposition.html#qKtVzOLcCTEazMgD.99




mnottertail -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 8:18:25 AM)

Free market communists are pervasive. It still does not become "obama hurls insults" it becomes rabid rightwing dogshit is all.

So, hopefully we will start reversing our post WW2 policies and laws and become an American Economy again.




Sanity -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 8:21:03 AM)


THIS is what it has become




mnottertail -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 8:27:21 AM)

Yup, thats the rabid rightwing.




MercTech -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 4:49:08 PM)

I have to wonder if the Trans Pacific treaty isn't just a bone for the former large U.S. companies. Hey, 7 out of 10 Chevrolets are made in China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvl5Gan69Wo

Follow the money...




HunterCA -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 5:20:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech

I have to wonder if the Trans Pacific treaty isn't just a bone for the former large U.S. companies. Hey, 7 out of 10 Chevrolets are made in China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvl5Gan69Wo

Follow the money...


But aren't those all sold in China. I understand it protects the administrative jobs here and not the workers here. But those Chevies being built in China is like the Japanese cars built here.




cloudboy -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/13/2015 9:35:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Uh, the op article is dogshit, no such thing occurred in all the politics of it.

However, I am glad that after the rabid rightwing solyndra cowardice, that since they are not going to pair some retaliatory language in that fast track bill, that it won't happen, since the constitutional authority was not invoked in the solyndra cowardice, and executive order wont cut it.

We should dump NAFTA AND GATT while we are at it. And if this country is going to fall to free market communism as the rabid right wing now wants after being against it before they were for it, then insure the free market, not this grand rabid right wing giveaway and destruction of America we have now.




Yeah, what a JOKE of a link. He's already transferring his massive hardships and complaints on Hillary Clinton, and then everyone can watch him day-after-day, week-after-week, year-after-year complain about how bad the Presidency of the USA is. His top will be spinning non stop from now until 2024. The glory years, 2000-08, will keep getting further and further away from him.




Sanity -> RE: Progressives called ignorant, insincere, and motivated by politics (5/14/2015 8:34:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Yeah, what a JOKE of a link. He's already transferring his massive hardships and complaints on Hillary Clinton, and then everyone can watch him day-after-day, week-after-week, year-after-year complain about how bad the Presidency of the USA is. His top will be spinning non stop from now until 2024. The glory years, 2000-08, will keep getting further and further away from him.


The links are both jokes? No.

Actually, both the Brooklyn Observer and Philly.com are fairly well respected

Thats all youve got in most debates here, is to act like a religious fanatic and attack the "enemy"

"They have insulted the prophet Obama! Allah Akhbar!!!"

Except you are more like slugs, leaving your slime trails. Lowering the intellectual level of these threads with almost every post you make








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