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ORIGINAL: Aylee

" work order hours that were more than the timecard hours,"

I can see how that would happen. There are books - probably computer programs now - that tell how long some action should take to do on a particular vehicle. So say a car needs a new alternator. The book says it should take 4.5 hours of labor. So that is what is billed for. Even if it only took the mechanic 3.75 hours to do it.

No idea on the whole bonus payments thing.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

" work order hours that were more than the timecard hours,"

I can see how that would happen. There are books - probably computer programs now - that tell how long some action should take to do on a particular vehicle. So say a car needs a new alternator. The book says it should take 4.5 hours of labor. So that is what is billed for. Even if it only took the mechanic 3.75 hours to do it.

No idea on the whole bonus payments thing.

The State of California has been publishing mechanic hours for car repair since the 70's. The State also requires the shop to pat it's mechanic rates in plane site. So a customer can look at a bill, look in the book for the legal hours and the rate posted on the wall and see his bill is fair. But, the shop actually pays the mechanic based on his billable hours. So, for instance, if the book says the work he was assigned should take 12 hours but the mechanic does it in eight, the mechanic gets a bonus beyond his eight hour time card. The shop, of course, takes a cut of the extra 4 hours billed as well. It's standard in the mechanic business here in CA.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


I remember we had a Chilton's manual that gave the time the job should take (and, to my mind, even that was always padded, a bit.). We always beat the time by a comfortable margin, except this one time, on a Mitsubishi's back breaks where I just couldn't ...

Anyway, I don't remember there being a law, at the time (from about '81-'86) but it was standard procedure for all garages to do this so, your comparison is well received.



Michael

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/05/uspss-inept-vehicle-maintenance-system-wastes-22-mil/

Appears that maintenance is being paid for hours not shown on time cards.

1. Is someone cheating?
2. Are workers being paid for the work that they do?

Also it appears that Bonus payments and salaries exceed the legal limit.

Why are government employees getting bonus payments?

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
" work order hours that were more than the timecard hours,"
I can see how that would happen. There are books - probably computer programs now - that tell how long some action should take to do on a particular vehicle. So say a car needs a new alternator. The book says it should take 4.5 hours of labor. So that is what is billed for. Even if it only took the mechanic 3.75 hours to do it.
No idea on the whole bonus payments thing.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
" work order hours that were more than the timecard hours,"
I can see how that would happen. There are books - probably computer programs now - that tell how long some action should take to do on a particular vehicle. So say a car needs a new alternator. The book says it should take 4.5 hours of labor. So that is what is billed for. Even if it only took the mechanic 3.75 hours to do it.
No idea on the whole bonus payments thing.

When the City of Toledo ran the refuse pick up for it's citizens, the drivers and pick up workers were all given routes and were paid their 8 hours, regardless of how fast they got their routes done. One guy I know worked 3-3½ hours a day running his garbage route, and had a part time job off the City books during the 4-5 hours he was still "on the clock" for the City. If they weren't paid their 8 regardless, their routes would take them 8 hours, even if they could get them done in <4 hours.

As far as the bonuses go, those are likely negotiated in their employment contracts. We can discuss whether or not there should be bonuses in employment contracts for government workers, but if they're in the contracts, and the employees earned them (according to the contract), then we can't really question the payout of those bonuses.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
" work order hours that were more than the timecard hours,"
I can see how that would happen. There are books - probably computer programs now - that tell how long some action should take to do on a particular vehicle. So say a car needs a new alternator. The book says it should take 4.5 hours of labor. So that is what is billed for. Even if it only took the mechanic 3.75 hours to do it.
No idea on the whole bonus payments thing.

When the City of Toledo ran the refuse pick up for it's citizens, the drivers and pick up workers were all given routes and were paid their 8 hours, regardless of how fast they got their routes done. One guy I know worked 3-3½ hours a day running his garbage route, and had a part time job off the City books during the 4-5 hours he was still "on the clock" for the City. If they weren't paid their 8 regardless, their routes would take them 8 hours, even if they could get them done in <4 hours.
As far as the bonuses go, those are likely negotiated in their employment contracts. We can discuss whether or not there should be bonuses in employment contracts for government workers, but if they're in the contracts, and the employees earned them (according to the contract), then we can't really question the payout of those bonuses.

Pretty much, in California, those perks negotiated in Union contracts have gone away with cities going bankrupt here. I guess it'll take the Feds going bankrupt for it to all work out with the Post Office.

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/05/uspss-inept-vehicle-maintenance-system-wastes-22-mil/

Appears that maintenance is being paid for hours not shown on time cards.

1. Is someone cheating?
2. Are workers being paid for the work that they do?

Also it appears that Bonus payments and salaries exceed the legal limit.

Why are government employees getting bonus payments?

Well let's see, the organization has to pay off a $8.3 Billion charge for 'future health services' of all its members. Imagine a mid size company being forced to pay installments on a $8.3 billion charge for all its employees (including the ones just hired). For a small 'ma and pa' store, maybe $950 million. Large corporation? Just a poke $4.2 trillion....

This 'charge' was put in place by the GOP/TP a few years back. An its wrecked havoc on the books ever since. No one organization in the history of America has been forced to handle a charge like this. The GOP/TP wants to break the US Postal Service and allow for privatized organizations that give them kick-backs to charge higher prices to send mail. Without this charge, the US Postal Service would be operating at a good profit. This $22 million would not normally mean much to anyone.

'Judicial Watch' is a right-wing organization. It states may half-truths and a few out right lies. All you have to do is just look at their front page. More so several organizations have shown Judicial Watch to not just be wrong with information, but showed the correct information. Unfortunately the audience of Judicial Watch is not composed of people that 'think critically' on stuff. They dont question nor research if the information is 100% journalistic quality. This organization like others continues to undermine the free flow of good information for a 'political agenda format'. Since the article from Judicial Watch came out on May 12th, its fair to say the research and correct information might not be out just yet. When you 'make shit up' with a conservative slant, it takes some time to seperate the bullshit from the good infomration.

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
Couple things Joe. When I was in the Army, we had a vehicle break down (I was in Africa). The Army wouldn't allow for the repair parts because the vehicle was new and wasn't supposed to break down. We stole an identical vehicle from the AF in Iran and stripped it for parts to repair our vehicle. When I was at Fort Hood, we had contracts with local businesses to make warranty repairs to our vehicles.

My experience with budgets and both fed and local levels is that a maintenance budget funds can not be used for operations or any other program. Course, I know of instances where the pilfered funds thru loans that were never repaid (like they did with social security I believe).

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

I am all for the dissolution of the usps from the government and while keeping an absolute minimal hand in the mix, allowing the postal services do be done by private enterprise.