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SeekingNimue -> Impact of orgasm control - dom/sub (5/22/2015 10:31:11 AM)
Hello all, It is more or less a truism, and pretty much the basis for orgasm control, that sub-males who are denied orgasm respond with intensified submissiveness. It certainly works that way for me. ;-) My question is - how does it work for doms? Specifically, if a dom chooses for whatever reason to delay or deny himself orgasm for a while, does that intensify his "dominantness" (that doesn't seem like a word - there must be a better one)? Or does it have the opposite effect? Or, even, no effect at all? Enquiring minds want to know . . . ;-)

Cell -> RE: Impact of orgasm control - dom/sub (5/22/2015 11:55:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SeekingNimue Hello all, Hi! quote: It is more or less a truism, and pretty much the basis for orgasm control, that sub-males who are denied orgasm respond with intensified submissiveness. It certainly works that way for me. ;-) I can only speak from experience with submissive females. Orgasm control and denial are two separate things. Yes orgasm control (and more broadly, control over the pain and pleasure a person experiences) can be fun, useful, arousing or even empowering depending on the person and the situation. However persistent orgasm denial can have a negative effect. In short, people will behave differently... sure, in small doses it can be a useful tool, but people have needs, (what those needs are varies, but sexuality is a big part of being a healthy human) completely starving those needs isn't healthy and will likely not have a good long term outcome. quote: My question is - how does it work for doms? Specifically, if a dom chooses for whatever reason to delay or deny himself orgasm for a while, does that intensify his "dominantness" (that doesn't seem like a word - there must be a better one)? Or does it have the opposite effect? Or, even, no effect at all? Enquiring minds want to know . . . ;-) So the question is, what is the result of forcing celibacy on yourself speaking as a Dom? Aaaahhhhuummm... Does masturbation count as orgasm? lol... I cant say I've ever really tried to go without. Delay sure, but I do that to prolong the sexiness. I cant see exactly what your trying to ask to be honest. All I can say is, I can sometimes control my orgasm by delaying it or trying to speed it up. I'm not always successful in either regard but nothing about that is really forced upon me as it would be in the case of a submissive. I'm still exercising my whims and will, not having them teased. In fact I don't like being teased and I don't like having my wants frustrated... It may be matter of being a Dom but it may just as likely be my individual personality and have nothing to do with D/s. P.S. I find your use of winky faces while asking me questions about my orgasms, disconcerting. >_>

JVoV -> RE: Impact of orgasm control - dom/sub (5/22/2015 12:54:57 PM)
Whether or not I orgasm, or allow my sub to orgasm has nothing to do with the dynamic. Really, I find male subs more vulnerable after orgasm. It's fun to see if you can force a second or seventeenth out of them.

DarkAzazel -> RE: Impact of orgasm control - dom/sub (5/22/2015 3:49:54 PM)
I can speak to my own experience as a Master/Dom that's experimented with denial. I find it makes me more aggressive and sadistic. After just coming, I couldn't care less about my slaves pain, if I keep myself in denial for a couple days, I'm pretty eager to hurt someone.

dreamlady -> RE: Impact of orgasm control - dom/sub (5/22/2015 5:26:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkAzazel After just coming, I couldn't care less. . . . That would seem to be a truism about your typical male. [8D] As Cell described, orgasm control is not orgasm denial, just as celibacy is not the same as chastity. Edging and delay heighten orgasm intensity in both genders from what I've observed and experienced. OP, I'm an interloper on your thread, because you are addressing male Doms, and I have never practiced orgasm control in the manner you mean it on a Dom. Or on a switch. Or on a sub, either. Enforcing orgasm denial is often done with chastity slaves, and I have zero interest in keeping my sub in chastity. A part-time eunuch is of no use to me. As for exercising control over a sub's orgasm schedule, along with tease & denial (a term which does not mean outright denial), that should suffice in deepening feelings of submission in a sub, in concert with expanding the Dominant's sense of exerting dominance. Most males in general of warm-blooded species who become sexually frustrated without being given access to a sexual outlet, will act more aggressive across the board. It's called getting your oats up. With male subs, it's so common to hear how they find ways to cheat, I don't believe that keeping one in a cockcage will actually make him more submissive. Sneakier, perhaps, and with the backlash effect of becoming more self-absorbed with his cock-centrism. I see this as a kind of fetish fixation where the inward focus on self negates a submissive's natural impulse to be outwardly focused upon serving his Mistress's needs. DreamLady

sweetieDA -> RE: Impact of orgasm control - dom/sub (5/23/2015 3:50:00 AM)
My husband is much more sadistic when he hasn't orgasmed for a few days (see Dark Azazel's post above). He also adopts a more objectifying attitude towards me, seeing me as a physical utility that can bring him to orgasm. Sex becomes rougher and I have to endure more pain during it. Play scenes are harder and longer when he hasn't orgasmed and he enjoys bringing me to tears more. Once he has orgasmed, his sadism drops off for a while, maybe half a day or a day and any sex we have will be softer, gentler and more loving and for mutual pleasure. I think it is possibly related to the actions of dopamine and prolactin although I don't have any info on the mechanism between neurochemicals and sadism.

DarkenedNight -> RE: Impact of orgasm control - dom/sub (6/5/2015 6:12:53 AM)
I like to bottle up a wenches orgasm and put it on ebay for muffin money. Some people like to orgasm: 1. 1-3 times a day 2. Couple of times a week 3. Are unable to do so frequently 4. Health reasons 5. They meet there other half, once a month, blue moon, every day 6. They meet them never as they are made up stereotype with a 12 inch cock picture, or snuck online as their partner is unaware, or are just into online frolics and nothing more – fair enough for those who say. There you have 6 simple variables; within those subsets, and many more variables. So the general answer it depends. But let us assume the two, or three or 40 can frolic in a personal manner. Denial can heighten the touch and decadent pleasure, not so much the nature – do not confuse that with desperation eg they are a volcano ready to erupt and should they brush past the washing machine or turn on the hoover steam shoots from their nether regions. But you can also go the other way see how many times they like to orasm in say 24 hours of tic toc I favour both approaches.

ChrchofDrk -> RE: Impact of orgasm control - dom/sub (6/5/2015 6:30:38 AM)
Yep, the longer I do without orgasm the bigger asshole I become.

Lucylastic -> RE: Impact of orgasm control - dom/sub (6/5/2015 7:20:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV Whether or not I orgasm, or allow my sub to orgasm has nothing to do with the dynamic. Really, I find male subs more vulnerable after orgasm. It's fun to see if you can force a second or seventeenth out of them. [sm=cute.gif][sm=agree.gif]

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