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ORIGINAL: MercTech

There have been some changes. Instead of surplus military gear being auctioned off and later appearing at your local Army/Navy store; it is being sold to civilian police at dirt cheap prices.

Now Sherriff Buford can arrive at the Saturday night bar fight in an armored personnel carrier.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/15/local-law-enforcement-agencies-surplus-military-equipment/10286485/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/31/military-surplus-police_n_3684683.html

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Strategy in Iraq failed back in the days of Bush and Blair, Even if like me you felt the war was illegal, to invade and leave after causing a giant schism between Sunni and Shia was always going to happen.

The fact is there was no rebuilding on a large scale and no appetite now to send in ground troops. I doubt the ability of the current Iraqi armed forces to defeat IS on their own. The only possibility is if the Iraqi government make the Sunnis more inclusive but as yet there is little sign of that happening.

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'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/12/14/remarks-president-and-first-lady-end-war-iraq

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“I am very optimistic about Iraq. I think it’s gonna be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re gonna see 90,000 American troops come marchin’ home by the end of the summer. You’re gonna see a stable government in Iraq that is actually movin’ toward a representative government. I’ve been there 17 times now. I go about every two months, three months. I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society. It’s impressed me. I’ve been impressed, how they have been deciding to use the political process, rather than guns, to settle their differences.”

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/12/watch-joe-biden-call-iraq-one-of-the-great-achievements-of-this-administration/

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Strategy in Iraq failed back in the days of Bush and Blair, Even if like me you felt the war was illegal, to invade and leave after causing a giant schism between Sunni and Shia was always going to happen.
The fact is there was no rebuilding on a large scale and no appetite now to send in ground troops. I doubt the ability of the current Iraqi armed forces to defeat IS on their own. The only possibility is if the Iraqi government make the Sunnis more inclusive but as yet there is little sign of that happening.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Strategy in Iraq failed back in the days of Bush and Blair, Even if like me you felt the war was illegal, to invade and leave after causing a giant schism between Sunni and Shia was always going to happen.
The fact is there was no rebuilding on a large scale and no appetite now to send in ground troops. I doubt the ability of the current Iraqi armed forces to defeat IS on their own. The only possibility is if the Iraqi government make the Sunnis more inclusive but as yet there is little sign of that happening.

The "stretegy" in the OP wasn't about how to fight a war, or why to enter into a war, but the strategy for dealing with hard assets afterwards.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Strategy in Iraq failed back in the days of Bush and Blair, Even if like me you felt the war was illegal, to invade and leave after causing a giant schism between Sunni and Shia was always going to happen.
The fact is there was no rebuilding on a large scale and no appetite now to send in ground troops. I doubt the ability of the current Iraqi armed forces to defeat IS on their own. The only possibility is if the Iraqi government make the Sunnis more inclusive but as yet there is little sign of that happening.

The "stretegy" in the OP wasn't about how to fight a war, or why to enter into a war, but the strategy for dealing with hard assets afterwards.

Well duh.......WTF did you think my post was about.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
I dont recall mentioning hard assets, just a broken State ?
The OP is clearly about the irony of IS capturing and using weapons supplied by the US.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Lmfao........ What do you think weapons are ?

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Lmfao........ What do you think weapons are ?

They are part of the "hard assets." You didn't mention the term "hard assets," that is true. But, the OP mentioned our equipment, aka "hard assets."

Are you really having that much difficulty following the Americanized English language?