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Sanity -> The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 8:47:28 AM)


Bear in mind while reading the article, Bergdahl is facing court martial for desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. He might be called a traitor, and rightfully so

The article, courtesy of Wikileaks and the Associated Press - 5 Taliban figures exchanged for Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl

What a deal!!! Five notorious and dangerous terrorist masterminds for one deserter. Wow...

With this kind of success I cant WAIT to see how Obamas deal with Iran turns out... [sm=doh.gif]




mnottertail -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 9:15:35 AM)

We were trying to give them away for free before, since they are not necessarily who that article says they are exactly, we haven't all that much proof. Maybe yahoo does, but we havent seen it, and the fact that they were tortured heavily makes their trials nearly impossible.




Sanity -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 9:20:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

We were trying to give them away for free before, since they are not necessarily who that article says they are exactly, we haven't all that much proof. Maybe yahoo does, but we havent seen it, and the fact that they were tortured heavily makes their trials nearly impossible.


By "we" you obviously mean yourself, and the terrorist sympathizer in your pocket





mnottertail -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 9:26:20 AM)

I certainly dont mean the imbeciles who criminally violated our constitution and have left us up to our necks in it, meaning the W administration and the rightwingers down there in the congress.





JVoV -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 9:27:15 AM)

—Mohammed Nabi served as chief of security for the Taliban in Qalat, Afghanistan, later worked as a radio operator for the Taliban's communications office in Kabul and was an office manager in the border department, according to U.S. military documents. In the spring of 2002, he told interrogators that he received about $500 from a CIA operative as part of the unsuccessful effort to track down Omar. When that didn't pan out, he is said to have helped the agency locate al-Qaida members.

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Why was he in Gitmo?




mnottertail -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 9:29:44 AM)

Cuz.......................Mrka!!!!




Sanity -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 9:37:12 AM)


—Mohammad Fazl is a former deputy defense minister and chief of staff and commander for the Taliban army. "Detainee is wanted by the U.N. for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites. Detainee was associated with terrorist groups currently opposing U.S. and coalition forces," according to a 2008 detainee assessment by the U.S. military. "If released, detainee would likely rejoin the Taliban and establish ties with ... elements participating in hostilities against U.S. and coalition forces in Afghanistan."




mnottertail -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 9:55:40 AM)

Show us the wanted by UN for war crimes list please. From the UN. Or how about even an indictment by ICC? Is interpol looking for him?

LOL. The rabid righwing goons and thugs are so gullible.




kdsub -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 10:18:59 AM)

There is a simple solution to the problem of the military prison at Guantanamo Bay... adjudicate the criminals. They are criminals not prisoners of war and should be dealt with as we would any criminals in our justice system.

If we do not have the evidence to prosecute release them...simple. If they can be justly tried then incarcerate or execute them...simple.

This way there will be no..." prisoners of so called war" to exchange.

Butch




JVoV -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 10:20:30 AM)

The UN's Criminal Tribunal page only lists 3 fugitives. Doesn't quite seem accurate.

http://www.unmict.org/en/cases




BamaD -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 10:22:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

We were trying to give them away for free before, since they are not necessarily who that article says they are exactly, we haven't all that much proof. Maybe yahoo does, but we havent seen it, and the fact that they were tortured heavily makes their trials nearly impossible.


By "we" you obviously mean yourself, and the terrorist sympathizer in your pocket



If we were trying to get rid of them free wouldn't an airplane ticket have done it?




mnottertail -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 10:47:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

We were trying to give them away for free before, since they are not necessarily who that article says they are exactly, we haven't all that much proof. Maybe yahoo does, but we havent seen it, and the fact that they were tortured heavily makes their trials nearly impossible.


By "we" you obviously mean yourself, and the terrorist sympathizer in your pocket



If we were trying to get rid of them free wouldn't an airplane ticket have done it?



Yeah, typical ignorant rightwing asswipe. We have people shipped from Isreal, Palestine, Iraq, Iran every day that just got an airplane ticket. So, to answer your ignorant shit, no, that wouldnt have done it. But it explains why your guys are not in charge, and why they fuck this country up everytime they get in.




Sanity -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 10:56:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

We were trying to give them away for free before, since they are not necessarily who that article says they are exactly, we haven't all that much proof. Maybe yahoo does, but we havent seen it, and the fact that they were tortured heavily makes their trials nearly impossible.


By "we" you obviously mean yourself, and the terrorist sympathizer in your pocket



If we were trying to get rid of them free wouldn't an airplane ticket have done it?


Free tickets back to the jihad would be far better than incentivizing the taking of hostages




mnottertail -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 10:58:58 AM)

When we look at the stats the W administration and the attending goons and thugs win the internet on giving free tickets to the Jihadists. By a wide, wide, wide, wide margin.




BamaD -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 11:01:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

There is a simple solution to the problem of the military prison at Guantanamo Bay... adjudicate the criminals. They are criminals not prisoners of war and should be dealt with as we would any criminals in our justice system.

If we do not have the evidence to prosecute release them...simple. If they can be justly tried then incarcerate or execute them...simple.

This way there will be no..." prisoners of so called war" to exchange.

Butch

No they aren't they are enemy combatants captured in combat while not wearing uniforms. That gives them the right to be shot on the spot.




HunterCA -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 11:06:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

—Mohammed Nabi served as chief of security for the Taliban in Qalat, Afghanistan, later worked as a radio operator for the Taliban's communications office in Kabul and was an office manager in the border department, according to U.S. military documents. In the spring of 2002, he told interrogators that he received about $500 from a CIA operative as part of the unsuccessful effort to track down Omar. When that didn't pan out, he is said to have helped the agency locate al-Qaida members.

___

Why was he in Gitmo?



Maybe he volunteered. Maybe it was the only place he could find three hots and a cot, as well as free Quran, clean clothes and clean water.




mnottertail -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 11:09:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

No they aren't they are enemy combatants captured in combat while not wearing uniforms.


No, that is not true of most at Gitmo. And when we do that with drones, you cry americans no trial unconstitutional. Try and get your screaming hysterically act together guys.




kdsub -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 11:09:40 AM)

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No they aren't they are enemy combatants captured in combat while not wearing uniforms. That gives them the right to be shot on the spot


Yes it does... if we were in N. Korea.

There is no...." WAR".... They are simply criminals by their actions and if we have evidence of their transgressions then why do we not run them through our justice system? We do not have to be like them to fight them do we?

Butch




BamaD -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 11:15:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

quote:

No they aren't they are enemy combatants captured in combat while not wearing uniforms. That gives them the right to be shot on the spot


Yes it does... if we were in N. Korea.

There is no...." WAR".... They are simply criminals by their actions and if we have evidence of their transgressions then why do we not run them through our justice system? We do not have to be like them to fight them do we?

Butch

Yes there is a war, as much as in Korea. You do realize that prosecution in our courts has two problems. One getting witnesses to the trial. Two surely you realize that the trials would not feature a denying their "crimes" but of justifying them. They would justify every atrocity committed with how evil the US is. It would be nothing but a propaganda show.




kdsub -> RE: The 5 Terrorist Leaders Exchanged for Bergdahl: (5/28/2015 11:24:24 AM)

If you were on trial for your life do you think the difficulty in getting witnesses should be so easily put aside? It is our justice system that they would face and since when has our justice system worried about propaganda?

Butch




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