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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:11:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		...as a side note. I kinda wish some strong man warlord with several strong sons and a room full of Generals working for them was in charge of Iraq so we would not have to worry so much about those people getting killed by the barbarians overruning the country. It seems to be a very violent place, that middle eastern area of our world, and perhaps it takes a strong and violent dictator to keep his country safe in that environment, an environment that has not changed since man appeared on this earth and likely will never change.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:23:57 PM   
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...as a side note. I kinda wish some strong man warlord with several strong sons and a room full of Generals working for them was in charge of Iraq so we would not have to worry so much about those people getting killed by the barbarians overruning the country. It seems to be a very violent place, that middle eastern area of our world, and perhaps it takes a strong and violent dictator to keep his country safe in that environment, an environment that has not changed since man appeared on this earth and likely will never change.



It's an interesting point. Actually in the philosophical plane the Middle East is not considered civilized. (Relax politically correct crowd. It's actually a definable term applicable to western culture). The tribal bonds are stronger than any other cultural bonds. And Iraq is mostly tribal shite. It would align with Iran and make things even more unpleasant. But I think that's pretty much why we went with Saddam years ago.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:27:56 PM   
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Oh wait, when did it, or was it allowed to market stuff like securities?

On the capital markets side, the acquisition of Continental Illinois helped BankAmerica to build a leveraged finance origination and distribution business (Continental Illinois had extensive leveraged lending relationships) which allowed the firm’s existing broker-dealer, BancAmerica Securities (originally named BA Securities), to become a full-service franchise.[29][30] In addition, in 1997, BankAmerica acquired Robertson Stephens, a San Francisco-based investment bank specializing in high technology for $540 million. Robertson Stephens was integrated into BancAmerica Securities and the combined subsidiary was renamed BancAmerica Robertson Stephens.[31]

Hum, 1997. Who ran the administration then I wonder?

Let me get this straight, Clinton is to be blamed because he acquiesced to repub bills and 'finally' deregulated banking in signing the modification to Glass-Steagall ?

Also, even with that, none of your last 3 posts incriminate either Clinton or the banks on being allowed 9 years later to create fraudulent shit paper (nine years of further deregulation) allowing such blatant corruption and fraud.

It is you again who really wants to have it both ways. Deregulate, don't fund or set the SEC onto them, then see almost free capital created (FED) a real estate bubble, standby while trillion$ are lost on shit paper. Furthermore, it was W who quite purposefully used an obscure 1863 OCC law to STOP ALL 50 state's attys' general from stopping the fraud.

You go back and blame Clinton for doing everything the repubs and their greedy scum sponsors had been asking for, for all of these years and finally obtained including the mergers which after TARP has the remaining 6 with more assets and greater risk than pre-TARP.

Even now the repubs refuse to regulate and as a result, I understand the taxpayers are STILL on the hook for banks...too-big-to-fail. I guess hey, we can all blame Obama because after all...he is a dem pres.

Righteous man...real good.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:34:33 PM   
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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:35:28 PM   
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Saddam was on the Egyptians payroll

Again, the US govt. has been fucking with the ME for over 60 fucking years...get over it.


Obviously, we've gotten over it. Look what your man Obama has brought about.

Well just WTF is he supposed to do ? He has that great Eisenhower, Reagan, Bush, Bush legacy to work on hey.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:37:36 PM   
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With the exception of a young Saddam Hussein going on CIA payroll in 1959.

Probably seemed like a good idea at the time.



Which is why a LOT of people (Hillary, John Kerry, a veritable plethora of democrats) supported going into Iraq in '03 (I feel old. I said "aught-three" in my head, as I was typing that); because we caused the issue. It was our fucking mess to clean up.

Michael



How was it ours. The British literally created Iraq, Saddam was on the Egyptians payroll

The CIA was surprised when the successful coup occurred in 1963... The Baathists acted according to their own agenda... And the Soviets forced everyons' hand on the issue

We were involved, yes. But the notion that somehow we owned Iraq is misinformation and lies

A revision of history.



Well, since you always want us to take your word for stuff, mostly demonstrively wrong stuff, with no links, your word is getting pretty thin here.

Besides, did you marry your first lay? Probably not. Although I'll let you correct me on that. Times change and sometimes that oh so important piece just isn't as important. So...what's your point? We as a nation, 60 years ago shouldn't have paid someone later we'd have hanged? What is that? Leftist insanity?

Man there are and has been links and documentaries all over TV and the web on this shit for years. Just like Hitler blamed the communists, now we can forever...blame the communists.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:37:42 PM   
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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:40:01 PM   
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With the exception of a young Saddam Hussein going on CIA payroll in 1959.

Probably seemed like a good idea at the time.



Which is why a LOT of people (Hillary, John Kerry, a veritable plethora of democrats) supported going into Iraq in '03 (I feel old. I said "aught-three" in my head, as I was typing that); because we caused the issue. It was our fucking mess to clean up.

Michael



How was it ours. The British literally created Iraq, Saddam was on the Egyptians payroll

The CIA was surprised when the successful coup occurred in 1963... The Baathists acted according to their own agenda... And the Soviets forced everyons' hand on the issue

We were involved, yes. But the notion that somehow we owned Iraq is misinformation and lies

A revision of history.



Well, since you always want us to take your word for stuff, mostly demonstrively wrong stuff, with no links, your word is getting pretty thin here.

Besides, did you marry your first lay? Probably not. Although I'll let you correct me on that. Times change and sometimes that oh so important piece just isn't as important. So...what's your point? We as a nation, 60 years ago shouldn't have paid someone later we'd have hanged? What is that? Leftist insanity?

Man there are and has been links and documentaries all over TV and the web on this shit for years. Just like Hitler blamed the communists, now we can forever...blame the communists.



Good you're now seeing the light. Hopefully some day the people in the dungeons in Cuba, China, Vietnam and now South America will be able to.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:41:56 PM   
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With the exception of a young Saddam Hussein going on CIA payroll in 1959.

Probably seemed like a good idea at the time.



Which is why a LOT of people (Hillary, John Kerry, a veritable plethora of democrats) supported going into Iraq in '03 (I feel old. I said "aught-three" in my head, as I was typing that); because we caused the issue. It was our fucking mess to clean up.

Michael



How was it ours. The British literally created Iraq, Saddam was on the Egyptians payroll

The CIA was surprised when the successful coup occurred in 1963... The Baathists acted according to their own agenda... And the Soviets forced everyons' hand on the issue

We were involved, yes. But the notion that somehow we owned Iraq is misinformation and lies

A revision of history.



Well, since you always want us to take your word for stuff, mostly demonstrively wrong stuff, with no links, your word is getting pretty thin here.

Besides, did you marry your first lay? Probably not. Although I'll let you correct me on that. Times change and sometimes that oh so important piece just isn't as important. So...what's your point? We as a nation, 60 years ago shouldn't have paid someone later we'd have hanged? What is that? Leftist insanity?

Man there are and has been links and documentaries all over TV and the web on this shit for years. Just like Hitler blamed the communists, now we can forever...blame the communists.



Good you're now seeing the light. Hopefully some day the people in the dungeons in Cuba, China, Vietnam and now South America will be able to.



As an aside, I see Greece is about to default on...well...everything and is about to see the light.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:47:56 PM   
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Clinton did a complete economic turn-around with an equally complete and absolute reversal of policy by raising rather than cutting taxes, created 22 million jobs and explosions of GDP without inflation, doing much better than either of his predecessors, created a surplus and all doing so based on his policies.


My belief is the real accomplishment was balancing the budget rather than spending the new taxes on entitlement programs. Yes, Clinton axed the entitlement programs while raising taxes, in other words, increased income and decreased spending. I like that. If Hillary will sit down over dinner with Bill and ask him who she needs to get to work for her in balancing the budget I'll vote for her myself, perhaps several times.

I may have to hold my nose to vote for Hillary but trust me, it is because we just don't have any real competition out there.

There are a few things she (any pres.) can do. Like reverse the perverse tax on incomes VS cap gains and carried interests. [sic]

Put everything possible in the pentagon on 'open market' purchasing instead mil standards for trash cans and toilet seats. Plus regulate defense cost-overruns almost equal to food stamps.

Cut ALL federal subsidies to profitable industries some...very profitable.

Get the federal bureaucracy out of the incentives to spend which creates required raises. The exact opposite of private industry.

Index federal minimum wage to inflation just like congress does their pay. (higher dollar velocity causing job creation)

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:52:46 PM   
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Saddam was on the Egyptians payroll

Again, the US govt. has been fucking with the ME for over 60 fucking years...get over it.


Saving their asses from the Nazis, the Soviets... the Islamists

How awful of us


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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:55:54 PM   
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Clinton did a complete economic turn-around with an equally complete and absolute reversal of policy by raising rather than cutting taxes, created 22 million jobs and explosions of GDP without inflation, doing much better than either of his predecessors, created a surplus and all doing so based on his policies.


My belief is the real accomplishment was balancing the budget rather than spending the new taxes on entitlement programs. Yes, Clinton axed the entitlement programs while raising taxes, in other words, increased income and decreased spending. I like that. If Hillary will sit down over dinner with Bill and ask him who she needs to get to work for her in balancing the budget I'll vote for her myself, perhaps several times.

I may have to hold my nose to vote for Hillary but trust me, it is because we just don't have any real competition out there.

There are a few things she (any pres.) can do. Like reverse the perverse tax on incomes VS cap gains and carried interests. [sic]

Put everything possible in the pentagon on 'open market' purchasing instead mil standards for trash cans and toilet seats. Plus regulate defense cost-overruns almost equal to food stamps.

Cut ALL federal subsidies to profitable industries some...very profitable.

Get the federal bureaucracy out of the incentives to spend which creates required raises. The exact opposite of private industry.

Index federal minimum wage to inflation just like congress does their pay. (higher dollar velocity causing job creation)

For starters your post shows that you don't know the first thing about military purchasing or the reasons for mil standards. Do you know where on the open market you can find a toilet lid that works in inverted flight.
Your minimum wage idea doesn't show any more understanding of it. Besides haven't you noticed there hasn't been any coverage of inflation since Obama came in so I guess that would preclude raises.
You can get a better person for president than Hillary by taking a stab in the phone book.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 8:58:21 PM   
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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 9:06:19 PM   
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Well, he is ignit. Let's not be totally mean to the kid on the short bus.

I was trying to be nice.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 9:19:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I understand. You did use polite words to call him a freacking ignit moron, which he is, and I appreciate that. When I read some of the mean evil things leftist say on these threads I just want to curl up and whine about victims.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 9:22:51 PM   
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I understand. You did use polite words to call him a freacking ignit moron, which he is, and I appreciate that. When I read some of the mean evil things leftist say on these threads I just want to curl up and whine about victims.

I try to avoid getting personal.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 9:26:59 PM   
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I understand. You did use polite words to call him a freacking ignit moron, which he is, and I appreciate that. When I read some of the mean evil things leftist say on these threads I just want to curl up and whine about victims.

I try to avoid getting personal.



But, there are victims in the world. Shouldn't we tax people and give them money?

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 9:32:52 PM   
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I understand. You did use polite words to call him a freacking ignit moron, which he is, and I appreciate that. When I read some of the mean evil things leftist say on these threads I just want to curl up and whine about victims.

I try to avoid getting personal.



But, there are victims in the world. Shouldn't we tax people and give them money?

You know that I don't believe that government should be an instrument of wealth redistribution.

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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 10:05:20 PM   
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RE: What qualifies Hilary to govern? - 6/2/2015 10:12:40 PM   
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Can I have my family's plantation back then?

Do you favor the government stealing from the successful and giving it to the unsuccessful?

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