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Moderator3 -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 1:33:39 PM)
I must thank you for the laugh the last few posts gave me. Thank you! [sm=yourock.gif] Edit: Oh no. Please don't turn this into she likes them better. Please. I'm going to shut up now and please at least 100,000 people as I make for the door.

Sanity -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 1:38:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Except she said that was not the post pointed out. I would need to know which post and who reported to make a guess at what someone got huffy about. But I am going to blame Sanity anyways. He keeps trying to take my trophy for Worst Person in the World. Alright, thats it - youve been reported. [sm=anger.gif]

HunterCA -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 1:39:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA quote: ORIGINAL: Moderator3 Urgent? Staff got a report that stated this thread needed urgent attention because of one post. For the type of thread it is, it has been rather mild, but there was a post that mentioned other posters maybe wanting to kill, that wasn't the post that was pointed out. Can you find the urgent post? Help a mod here if you will. Cmail me the post you think that needs staff on an urgent situation if you can find it because I sure can't. It's not funny what gets reported site-wide when someone seeks revenge, doesn't get what they want, doesn't like someone or is fighting with someone. This is a waste of staff time site-wide and a good percentage of the reports we get are false. Hundreds of reports and many of them false? Yes we have time for that! [8\|] If you can find the urgent post, I will publicly apologize. If I could send you cookies, I would, but all i can do is admit I was wrong. Take a mod down for something they actually do or just use tickets and reporting to play with their minds or point out how they missed an insulting post in Feisty. I'm smiling, but I would laugh if I wasn't so tired from staying up all night rooting out a person using tor with many accounts that seem fine, but aren't. I guess I don't know what urgent is or something and I need a nap. The only thing even close to that on this thread, that I can see, would be post 78, where it's referenced that the author thought people on here would like to kill somebody. But, it was obviously not a threat. Perhaps that was misunderstood. Except she said that was not the post pointed out. I would need to know which post and who reported to make a guess at what someone got huffy about. But I am going to blame Sanity anyways. He keeps trying to take my trophy for Worst Person in the World. WHAT???? That heartless SOB.

igor2003 -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 1:47:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne yep definitely no intent to harm the cop was shown. cop was judge jury and executioner though this one is a little closer to the line of questionable. neither do we know why he was stopping the kid, dead as a result of a call for spitting on the sidewalk or armed assault? Like the kid whos mother called the cops so her kid would not hurt himself, cops fixed him permanently. Despite there are bonafide situations virtually all I have seen posted drives back to negligent cops protected by constructive fraud. No, the kid was the judge and jury. The kid also forced the cop to be executioner. Can you imagine walking away, with your hands in your pockets, from a cop with a drawn handgun. That kid forced the situation and that cop will have to live with it forever. I feel sorry for the cop. While the kid may have contributed to what eventually happened, he was kind of doomed from the start. First, there is a "caller" that reports these nefarious criminals walking down the street. He tells dispatch that (1) they were "gangbangers", and (2) they "flashed" a gun, [hmm . . . I wonder if it was actually Arizona Iced Tea?], amd (3) "they were OBVIOUSLY looking for trouble, just the way they look." ( Does anybody else see the similarities between this and a certain Neighborhood Watch idiot in Florida from a while back? Officer Cruz states that he saw them "making a scene" (something not shown on the video . . . at least I didn't see it). Anyway, the kid should NOT have put his hands in his pants and walked away. But he did, so what happens? The cop starts yelling at him to "show his hands" and take his hands out of his pants. So the kid complies, and starts taking his hands out of his pants . . . doing EXACTLY what the cop told him to do. NOW the cop gets panicky and decides that the kid is drawing a gun. (Maybe it was Skittles?) So the kid is shot and killed. There is a lot of "fault" to go around, but I don't feel too sorry for the cop at all. At least he got to go home.

HunterCA -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 2:01:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: igor2003 quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne yep definitely no intent to harm the cop was shown. cop was judge jury and executioner though this one is a little closer to the line of questionable. neither do we know why he was stopping the kid, dead as a result of a call for spitting on the sidewalk or armed assault? Like the kid whos mother called the cops so her kid would not hurt himself, cops fixed him permanently. Despite there are bonafide situations virtually all I have seen posted drives back to negligent cops protected by constructive fraud. No, the kid was the judge and jury. The kid also forced the cop to be executioner. Can you imagine walking away, with your hands in your pockets, from a cop with a drawn handgun. That kid forced the situation and that cop will have to live with it forever. I feel sorry for the cop. While the kid may have contributed to what eventually happened, he was kind of doomed from the start. First, there is a "caller" that reports these nefarious criminals walking down the street. He tells dispatch that (1) they were "gangbangers", and (2) they "flashed" a gun, [hmm . . . I wonder if it was actually Arizona Iced Tea?], amd (3) "they were OBVIOUSLY looking for trouble, just the way they look." ( Does anybody else see the similarities between this and a certain Neighborhood Watch idiot in Florida from a while back? Officer Cruz states that he saw them "making a scene" (something not shown on the video . . . at least I didn't see it). Anyway, the kid should NOT have put his hands in his pants and walked away. But he did, so what happens? The cop starts yelling at him to "show his hands" and take his hands out of his pants. So the kid complies, and starts taking his hands out of his pants . . . doing EXACTLY what the cop told him to do. NOW the cop gets panicky and decides that the kid is drawing a gun. (Maybe it was Skittles?) So the kid is shot and killed. There is a lot of "fault" to go around, but I don't feel too sorry for the cop at all. At least he got to go home. Ignorance your prejudice and ignorance is showing. First let's start with your little snide Arizona iced tea. Arizona watermelon iced tea and skittles (remember those too) are two of three ingredients for making "that purple drank" people use to illigally get high. So, your little jab that he just had a sweet tooth craving is stupid. Second, the link said this: quote: Taylor, 20, and the two men he was with matched the descriptions of a 911 caller who said three men had "flashed" a gun. And Cruz saw them "making a scene" on their way to the 7-Eleven near 2100 S. State Street. A call was made, a cop responded and acted per training and policy. Just remember where and what the kid who got killed in Furgason was doing just before he accosted police. I'm betting the cop remembered. The kid was entirely in the wrong. The cop is going to have to live with killing a person for the rest of his life and you're an ass for belittling that. It's not hard to figure out how an innocent citizen should act in that situation, apparently two of the three kids understood. But for you I'll provide this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

Sanity -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 2:16:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58472404-78/taylor-cruz-hands-gill.html.csp Paranoid??? the cop got off....not because he was in danger, but because he thought he was. the video is hugely graphic Heres an uncut version http://www.thedailysheeple.com/graphic-and-disturbing-video-of-police-shooting-of-dillon-taylor-released_062015 On the page you linked to is a frame-by-frame explanation of the officers motive for the shooting. The Darwin awardee had turned and was facing the cop while walking backwards. He had looked directly at the cops who had their weapons trained on him, and he was reaching into his waistband with cops screaming for him to get his hands up Bad luck to do that

DaddySatyr -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 2:30:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Moderator3 Can you find the urgent post? Nope, I've searched every page and I can't find the word "urgent" anywhere. K. Check any site. Search for "Foreigner Lyrics". Hope I helped. Michael

CreativeDominant -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 3:16:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle As you don't have anything to offer except lies, hate and abuse, I'm done playing with you Hunter. There's no place for people like you in my life. Good bye and good riddance This from someone who says that certain ones of us would ENJOY...nay, relish...killing someone.

MercTech -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 4:05:38 PM)
All the talk of knives and the 21 foot rule is fine. But one thing is missing; definition of a "deadly weapon". Deadly weapons by definition are not just firearms. I'll paraphrase from a few jurisdictions I've lived in. The exact definition varies with state law. If it has two edges on a blade; it is a deadly weapon. If the blade of a knife locks into place; it is a deadly weapon. If the blade is over 2-3/4 inches long; it is a deadly weapon. If the knife can be opened with one hand; it is a deadly weapon. If it is a Bowie Knife; it is a deadly weapon. If it is an Arkansas Toothpick; it is a deadly weapon. If it is a stiletto; it is a deadly weapon. Same also for "dirks", "daggers", and "bayonets". A deadly weapon requires a permit to carry concealed. Charging a person with a deadly weapon in hand is "Assault with a Deadly Weapon" which most places consider a felony. Assault with a Deadly Weapon is cause for responding with lethal force in most jurisdictions. Public opinion and police protocol may differ; but in the end the legal technicality is that an officer can shoot the fellow with most knives and it will stand a legal test.

Sanity -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 4:27:09 PM)
In certain circumstances, reaching where a person normally keeps a weapon can also be considered sufficiently threatening to warrant a deadly response

Aylee -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/7/2015 8:15:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech All the talk of knives and the 21 foot rule is fine. But one thing is missing; definition of a "deadly weapon". Deadly weapons by definition are not just firearms. I'll paraphrase from a few jurisdictions I've lived in. The exact definition varies with state law. If it has two edges on a blade; it is a deadly weapon. If the blade of a knife locks into place; it is a deadly weapon. If the blade is over 2-3/4 inches long; it is a deadly weapon. If the knife can be opened with one hand; it is a deadly weapon. If it is a Bowie Knife; it is a deadly weapon If it is an Arkansas Toothpick; it is a deadly weapon. If it is a stiletto; it is a deadly weapon. Same also for "dirks", "daggers", and "bayonets". A deadly weapon requires a permit to carry concealed. Charging a person with a deadly weapon in hand is "Assault with a Deadly Weapon" which most places consider a felony. Assault with a Deadly Weapon is cause for responding with lethal force in most jurisdictions. Public opinion and police protocol may differ; but in the end the legal technicality is that an officer can shoot the fellow with most knives and it will stand a legal test. Hat pins can be deadly weapons. [:D]

HunterCA -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/8/2015 9:29:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech All the talk of knives and the 21 foot rule is fine. But one thing is missing; definition of a "deadly weapon". Deadly weapons by definition are not just firearms. I'll paraphrase from a few jurisdictions I've lived in. The exact definition varies with state law. If it has two edges on a blade; it is a deadly weapon. If the blade of a knife locks into place; it is a deadly weapon. If the blade is over 2-3/4 inches long; it is a deadly weapon. If the knife can be opened with one hand; it is a deadly weapon. If it is a Bowie Knife; it is a deadly weapon If it is an Arkansas Toothpick; it is a deadly weapon. If it is a stiletto; it is a deadly weapon. Same also for "dirks", "daggers", and "bayonets". A deadly weapon requires a permit to carry concealed. Charging a person with a deadly weapon in hand is "Assault with a Deadly Weapon" which most places consider a felony. Assault with a Deadly Weapon is cause for responding with lethal force in most jurisdictions. Public opinion and police protocol may differ; but in the end the legal technicality is that an officer can shoot the fellow with most knives and it will stand a legal test. Hat pins can be deadly weapons. [:D] When I travel on a plane and can't carry a gun or a knife, I carry a couple of sharpened No 2 pencils. Of course I do have a ceramic knife but the new X-ray thingies concern me with that. I'd like the chance to test it before actually trying to sneak it through one.

Aylee -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/8/2015 10:51:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech All the talk of knives and the 21 foot rule is fine. But one thing is missing; definition of a "deadly weapon". Deadly weapons by definition are not just firearms. I'll paraphrase from a few jurisdictions I've lived in. The exact definition varies with state law. If it has two edges on a blade; it is a deadly weapon. If the blade of a knife locks into place; it is a deadly weapon. If the blade is over 2-3/4 inches long; it is a deadly weapon. If the knife can be opened with one hand; it is a deadly weapon. If it is a Bowie Knife; it is a deadly weapon If it is an Arkansas Toothpick; it is a deadly weapon. If it is a stiletto; it is a deadly weapon. Same also for "dirks", "daggers", and "bayonets". A deadly weapon requires a permit to carry concealed. Charging a person with a deadly weapon in hand is "Assault with a Deadly Weapon" which most places consider a felony. Assault with a Deadly Weapon is cause for responding with lethal force in most jurisdictions. Public opinion and police protocol may differ; but in the end the legal technicality is that an officer can shoot the fellow with most knives and it will stand a legal test. Hat pins can be deadly weapons. [:D] When I travel on a plane and can't carry a gun or a knife, I carry a couple of sharpened No 2 pencils. Of course I do have a ceramic knife but the new X-ray thingies concern me with that. I'd like the chance to test it before actually trying to sneak it through one. I know how to sneak it through. Heh.

truckinslave -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/8/2015 11:28:03 AM)
The legal standard for armed self-defense has long included that one "believed, and had reason to believe" that he was in danger of death/gbi. All part of the idea of the "reasonable man"

truckinslave -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/8/2015 11:35:41 AM)
Relax. You're safe

truckinslave -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/8/2015 11:38:10 AM)
Sanity, luck had little to do with it

Sanity -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/8/2015 1:06:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave Sanity, luck had little to do with it Nah, all kinds of things cause bad luck. Driving drunk, playing Russian Roulette... Hooking up with any girl named "Tiffany"

tweakabelle -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/10/2015 9:19:56 PM)
The Guardian has compiled detailed list comparing US police shootings to those of other countries: "It is undeniable that police in the US often contend with much more violent situations and more heavily armed individuals than police in other developed democratic societies. Still, looking at our data for the US against admittedly less reliable information on police killings elsewhere paints a dramatic portrait, and one that resonates with protests that have gone global since a killing last year in Ferguson, Missouri: the US is not just some outlier in terms of police violence when compared with countries of similar economic and political standing. America is the outlier – and this is what a crisis looks like. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries The article announcing the site can be read at the above link, while the site itself is located at: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

BamaD -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/10/2015 9:42:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle The Guardian has compiled detailed list comparing US police shootings to those of other countries: "It is undeniable that police in the US often contend with much more violent situations and more heavily armed individuals than police in other developed democratic societies. Still, looking at our data for the US against admittedly less reliable information on police killings elsewhere paints a dramatic portrait, and one that resonates with protests that have gone global since a killing last year in Ferguson, Missouri: the US is not just some outlier in terms of police violence when compared with countries of similar economic and political standing. America is the outlier – and this is what a crisis looks like. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries The article announcing the site can be read at the above link, while the site itself is located at: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database Growing out of Ferguson were even Holder who sent people there to find some way to nail Wilson determined, after all the facts came in, that Wilson had done nothing wrong. The Guardian, why not depend on the Inquirer?

tweakabelle -> RE: Police Shoot to Death One Unarmed Person Every 3 Days in U.S. (6/10/2015 9:56:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The Guardian, why not depend on the Inquirer? From wiki: "The Guardian is a British centre-left national daily newspaper. [snip] In August 2013 The Guardian in paper form had an average daily circulation of 189,000 copies, behind The Daily Telegraph and The Times, and ahead of The Independent.[5] The newspaper's online edition was the third most widely read in the world as of June 2012.[6] Its combined print and online editions reach nearly 9 million readers.[7] In the 2015 UK general election, The Guardian endorsed the Labour Party.[8] In the previous general election it supported the Liberal Democrats. Notable scoops include the newspaper's breaking of the News International phone hacking scandal in 2011, particularly with the revelation of the hacking of murdered teenager Milly Dowler's phone.[10] The investigation brought about the closure of one of the highest circulation newspapers in the world, the News of the World.[11] The newspaper also broke news of the secret collection of Verizon telephone records held by Barack Obama's administration in June 2013,[12] and subsequently revealed the existence of the PRISM surveillance program after it was leaked to the paper by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.[13] The Guardian was named newspaper of the year at the 2014 British Press Awards, for its reporting on government surveillance." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian Are you seriously suggesting that the Inquirer and The Guardian share the same standing?

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