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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/14/2015 2:30:03 PM   
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Nice to see the ability to remove disagreeable posts is still working just fine.



I don't know what you're talking about as I haven't removed any posts. With a couple of things I have to go by, I am not surprised by your recent posts. If I pull a post, I have no problem admitting it.

If I have issue with how someone is working the forum, I don't necessarily have to remove posts, I can remove people. So far today you have stated this is an attack. It is not. Now this. I am leaving the post, but I am telling you now that I will not allow someone making this something that it isn't and stirring fear or other volatile emotions.

Because we try to protect privacy when someone is removed from the forum we cannot say why. It isn't always just a post. So we may look as if we are acting aggressively or trying to protect the site by shutting truth tellers up. There is normally far more to any given situation.

I have not removed any posts.

Edit for the word way when it should have been why.

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/14/2015 3:33:22 PM   
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Is the old gal winding down toward extinction?

I think circling the drain is probably the most accurate description of it's present condition.


^^ This ^^

Imo, it went to crap right after the fight over the collarme website & it hasnt come back, everyone either abandoned ship or when the site was changed, they didnt know the new site addy (or didnt care).. and few have come back.. which means the chats have become boring with the same few actors.. same stuff repeated over and over and over.. (yawn)

I wouldn't have found CS after that incident if I wasn't already browsing the forums. I'm sure there were a lot of users who just weren't aware of the move.

yes, i found out thru the forums also and yes, anyone that only used the other side wouldn't have had a clue what happened and just thought the site was gone for good.. i mean, really, a true businessperson with any kinda marketing smarts would have immediately emailed all account holders and given them the new addy and an explanation of some sort.. and maybe some virtual flowers and candy.. but there was nadda..


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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/15/2015 7:49:33 AM   
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I actually found out through a post over on Fet.

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/15/2015 3:41:16 PM   
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I've only been on this site for a couple of years, but I've noticed some patterns which keep repeating.. Most of the mods/authorities here are pretty much stomped on by those who seem to want to pick a fight. And the mods, more often than not, show extreme patience and tolerance, and only "put their foot down" when it gets to extreme abuse, or people start acting like this is third grade, instead of an *adult* site. I've noticed that it's those who kick, scream, yell, make a big fuss and scene about every little imagined slight against them (OMG! HOW DARE YOU TELL ME I CAN'T SHOVE MY PENIS IN YOUR FACE! I HAVE A RIGHT! I'M ENTITLED!), and then when the mods get tired of it and do something about it, those people make a huge outcry of "FOUL! POWER ABUSE!" trying to turn the public tide in their favor.

So do I think the "old gal" is dying? No, but I think the drama llamas and cry babies are trying to best to kill it, and those who jump on the "me too!" or "OMG, they BANNED you? How unjust, even though I have no idea WHY they banned you!" bandwagon with them, no matter how good their intentions, are not helping make the site better.. They're only helping to make it appear that the site and mods are.. crap. When the reality is.. It's those users who are the crap that needs to be flushed away.

Since humans first started to gather together in groups, the drama and gossip has *always* been the true root of dissention and failures of the group to succeed as a whole. Something to think about, eh?

For myself, I grew up as part a family filled with love and understanding, and my parents stood by me, backed me up, supported me in every thing I did. They taught me courage, responsibility, to think for myself, to be the best person I can be. But never once did they shelter me, or allow me to hide behind a line of bullshit--When I got in trouble, the first thing they'd do was not "Oh, you poor baby, what did those evil <teachers/kids/police/etc> do to you? It must be unjust!" No, instead, they looked at me pointedly and said "Son, what did YOU do that they felt they needed to respond to you the way they did?" And you know, most of the time, after talking about the situation, I realized that I did indeed bring it on, myself. In so doing, I learned how to own my own problems and failures, not just take credit for the successes. And yes, there were even a few times where I was truly doing nothing wrong, and was treated unjust. But you know something? I also learned how to handle that with dignity and grace, to rise above it (well, after having a fit of snark--I'm not perfect! :-P)

Point to all this is.. I think the first thing that needs to happen around here is people need to stop pointing fingers, laying blame, finding fault.. unless you're going to first point that finger at yourself in the mirror, and make damned sure you're not part of the problem to begin with.

Just sayin'. :-)


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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/15/2015 6:05:32 PM   
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I've not been around for a bit due to multiple health issues with multiple family members, but am excited
to see some small changes here on the forum, and can well imagine that these changes were made to make
things more enjoyable for us, and to lessen the load on staff. While Professional Services and Naughty Love
are at the top area of the board and not anything that would interest the majority of the posters here, it
does direct those types of posts that usually get ugly comments to a place where we don't see them.
Win Win!

I see light at the end of the tunnel. I can't imagine the site is purposely frustrating us with the glitches
just because they may be sadists.

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/15/2015 6:19:15 PM   
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I don't always see what you all see as I see many forums that are meant for staff. I was unaware of the fact that the professional section could still be seen at all, until recently and quite frankly, I've been too busy to deal with it. No one can gain access to it and that is what matters most. We no longer have a professional section.

Poise has it right. We wanted to direct some of the post to another section, so that it wasn't filtering into other areas and it also enhances the profile side by having another area in which people can utilize in seeking a partner(s). I haven't been able to finalize the guidelines up there, but I keep telling myself, it will be soon. Yeah right! lol I really don't like removing things from the forum. Not because of the work it entails, but because its rotten to greet someone new to the forum with gold mail stating that their post/thread has been removed. So I tried to find a more positive way to deal with some of the issues.

Correction or gold mail is the last thing I want around here, unless it is a cheerful hello from staff. When it must be done, we will do it, but the goal is to do as little as possible.

Thank you Poise.

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/15/2015 10:02:03 PM   
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Personally I don't think it's dying. New people are joining every day. Besides and I know I'm jinxing myself by saying but I'm not having problems.

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/20/2015 10:38:08 AM   
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Just a comment that the site has been positively peppy today and for the most part photos now seem visible in the "small profile" view.

Nice job tech people!

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/20/2015 3:04:10 PM   
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And do they let us mere mortals know. The site is deed it has been a number of years and is in its final decline…

Did they really ban - get rid of the moderators – not that I knew who they were….did they hurl them into volcanoes ior pay them off with bountiful muffins

I cannot help but noticed some of the regulars are no longer on the forums! – why be that.

I have been here since this sites conception – and when I first was it wasn’t great - piss poor actually and it is now utterly abysmal.

Why is that well I could do it tonight but I did this a few weeks ago – as did one of the regulars with me

Search for 20 profiles last on with pictures from my lands Scotland
50% or 10 lesbians- all with stolen pictures – yes no doubt guys diking about in hope of hot lesbo talk and a tit picture as their partner slumbers unaware.
4 pro domes – some real some not
6 unknown they could be real they could be not – they all had pictures just not of them

This site lacks a verification system
It has become a reflection of its userbase – see above numbers.

I would imagine all real genuine people, especially women folk are scared of it within 7 days.
A websites success is based on the number of women they have – as us men follow the women – and as far as I am concerned I have the percentage of genuine women at less than 10% - lot of hot lesbians mind you – all with stolen pictures

To be brief

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/22/2015 3:29:21 AM   
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What I don't understand is, if you hate the site, why bother with it?. I'm forever joining sites (mostly none kink) and finding them not to my liking. I either delete my account or don't bother going back; what I don't do is invest time slating the site on the site!!

There are some who would love nothing more than this site to fail. Angry vindictive individuals who can't let it rest and really need to have a word with themselves and grow the f-ck up. I found out who the turncoats where when the turmoil started. All those pms on both here and FL trying to spread malicious gossip and persuade me to leave this site was a complete waste of time. What they didn't get and still don't get is, many of us have no interest in the politics and what goes on behind the face of CS...we come here for light entertainment and that's it.

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/22/2015 9:43:20 AM   
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MM: it's almost axiomatic that guys whining about wimmen being fake are those who spend their time emailing the barely legal looking pics. Not those who actually are interested in having a relationship, but those who feel that signing up here means they are entitled to having sex on demand.

Women do not feel threatened here. The banning of dick pics as profile pics goes a long way towards assuring a woman's comfort.

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/22/2015 12:37:02 PM   
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Lot of hot lesbians mind you – all with stolen pictures

To be brief



Whaddya expect for free?! A house full of bonafide lesbians parading around with genuine pictures?

Didn't yer mam's ever teach you that there's no such thing as a free meal?

To be frank.


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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/22/2015 12:50:44 PM   
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MM: it's almost axiomatic that guys whining about wimmen being fake are those who spend their time emailing the barely legal looking pics. Not those who actually are interested in having a relationship, but those who feel that signing up here means they are entitled to having sex on demand.

Women do not feel threatened here. The banning of dick pics as profile pics goes a long way towards assuring a woman's comfort.



My ex-almost-brother-in-law was simply aghast that I met my partner on here.

Makes sense, since he's looking for a young, small-chested Asian-- because, you know, they make the "best slaves". Now, why they would be wanting to be with someone like him is another story...

As long as there are people living in a fantasy world, there will always be those that take the easy mark.

But, of course, it's the site's fault. Yeah, that's it.

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/25/2015 12:27:30 PM   
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We seem to have come a long way from the glory days when there were several lively debates - debates of wit and profundity argued by intelligent and interesting personalities - going on at the same time.

Not to back away from my previous posts, but there are days....

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 6/25/2015 1:08:52 PM   
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We seem to have come a long way from the glory days when there were several lively debates - debates of wit and profundity argued by intelligent and interesting personalities - going on at the same time. Now, after the civil war and the attempted coup, the steam seems to have gone out of the site. Most threads are of the liberals are stupid/conservatives are stupid variety. Participation is way down. The powers that be can't seem to fix the photo uploading problem - or perhaps they can't be bothered. I get a ' the best lack all conviction, the worst are filled with passionate intensity' vibe every time I'm on.

So . . .

Is the old gal winding down toward extinction?


egad.. look at the numbers..

Then- "Most users ever online was 63349 at 11/6/2011"

Now- "Active Users: There are 151 members and 1268 guests."

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 7/7/2015 2:18:34 AM   
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It's a shame KinkyToo didn't take off. That site showed promise, but even that place couldn't hold a candle to actual modern forum software. Some of the forums I've seen just blow me away with how far technology has come. Really super polished and smart features.
Not that this place isn't perfectly fine. I don't think the forum software fully explains the decline, just one point to add.

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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 7/7/2015 3:18:03 AM   
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What I don't understand is, if you hate the site, why bother with it?

Personally, I came back for a thread about a member who was/is ill. I thought it was the least I could do.

But, while I'm here...

Are these forums what they used to be? Oh HELL no! Do y'all remember good threads? The ones that went on for 30-40 pages and had content? Hmmm. The General BDSM discussion board SUCKS. Wanna get hits? Start a findomme or scammer thread. When is the last rope thread this site had? Needles? Whips? Electric play? Sensory Dep?

Where is the activity now? General BDSM? Nope. Positive Experiences? Not there. Upcoming Events? Laughable.

At least 80% are coming from P&R. Even Reddit doesn't rely on that.

You wanna fix this? Might want to give the old gal CPR.


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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 7/7/2015 10:23:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: MariaB

What I don't understand is, if you hate the site, why bother with it?

Personally, I came back for a thread about a member who was/is ill. I thought it was the least I could do.

But, while I'm here...

Are these forums what they used to be? Oh HELL no! Do y'all remember good threads? The ones that went on for 30-40 pages and had content? Hmmm. The General BDSM discussion board SUCKS. Wanna get hits? Start a findomme or scammer thread. When is the last rope thread this site had? Needles? Whips? Electric play? Sensory Dep?

Where is the activity now? General BDSM? Nope. Positive Experiences? Not there. Upcoming Events? Laughable.

At least 80% are coming from P&R. Even Reddit doesn't rely on that.

You wanna fix this? Might want to give the old gal CPR.



This.
I rarely come on this site any more. I don't have a connection with most posters like I used to in the past.
I used to enjoy the banter back and forth between people that you felt you knew even if you had never met in the flesh.
I occasionally drop in on fet, but even that's not too often now a days. Real life is just too fun and busy to be online.


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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 7/7/2015 10:25:56 AM   
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RE: Is the old gal dying? - 7/7/2015 11:26:40 AM   
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WE can always live in hope.

Re: P & R:

So few people actually understand the art of debate. For as many years as I've been here, P & R has been a joke, in those terms.

I have put forth the idea that any moderation should be based upon the rules of debate.

Name calling - take four weeks off.

Ad hominem - Three weeks.

Etc.

The issue, across the boards, is that for too long, there were a bunch of people that were used to riding rough-shod over everyone else and they can no longer do that, anymore. Many of those people are gone, thankfully but the few that are left are bound and determined to show everyone that their way is the won-twue-way.

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