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In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 7:03:24 AM   
ArtimisBlack


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We may not have known if we were Dominant, submissive, or switch but we all found out (or are in the process of doing so). Either way, I know it’s a learning process usually. That’s why the replies in thread on how to train an online slave surprised me a bit because for the most part people offered criticism rather then advice. Many of the replies asked why the OP considered himself a Dom. It got me wondering how we all started out, both Doms, switches, and subs. What made you consider yourself Dominant/submissive/switch? Which experiences taught you the most and helped you find your way?
 

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RE: In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 7:13:32 AM   
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i was raised as such. Though it was not of D/s as we know it. It just simply was the way things were "supposed to be." ie) The natural order of things.  That is not to say that i did not go through a period of rebellion, though eventually back "home" is where i ended up again...(smiles)

i think we are all at different points and stages in self realization, some further along in self discovery and acceptance than others.

So, answering the question, "What most helped me find my way"? In short, self accepatance, a terrific Father (that gave me my start), and an awesome Mentor. (Great question, i look forward to reading the other posts).

nsty

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RE: In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 7:18:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ArtimisBlack
What made you consider yourself Dominant/submissive/switch?


It is simply who I am, it is my nature to be the Dominant partner

quote:

Which experiences taught you the most and helped you find your way?


My very first experience, the idea was supposed to be that it was Me that was going to be the one tied to the bed (Her idea and suggestion), but no sooner had she taken my wrist to do so, it didn't feel right. I flipped her over and reversed the roles..... much the to young ladys delight.

A little more talking and I was sure which I was naturaly suited for. She had introduced me to BDSM because she felt (And recognised) a D/s dynamic between us, it was one of the things that attracted her to me dispite me not having had any experience at such a young age. She thought she would have had to do a lot more introducing before she could fall into her natural role but was happy to be wrong. She was the first girl I ever collared and I haven't looked back since!


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RE: In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 7:22:22 AM   
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i too just feel i was raised this way ...
i was raised by grandparents from the
"old country" .. with their old ways ... but she served him
this i know ... she sat at his feet ... and i was taught early
to respect ... and hold my tongue ...
it molded me and made me who i am ...
and it took me a long time to find out that i had a place in the world
but i wouldn't change a step ... along the way ..
:: smiles
 
:: goes back to the corner ... to watch ..
~~blessings


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RE: In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 7:32:47 AM   
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I have some experience both ways and so am Dom and sub,until I find where my true heart lies,I am happy to be switch.

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RE: In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 7:53:23 AM   
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My first experiences really had nothing, yet everything, to do with BDSM or me being submissive.  I hadn't "labelled" myself but was simply having fun.

Shortly after that time was when my mentor found me...  My training was all encompassing with heavy emphasis on the mindset, power exchange, philosophy of the lifestyle and how it applies to life in general rather than a mutually exclusive part of who i am.  I was then set free to discover my own comfort zone within the lifestyle.  There really wasn't any question in my mind.  I had displayed and aligned with the characteristics of being submissive.

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RE: In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 8:15:01 AM   
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When I first started, I felt more that I was a slave.. I am not sure why.. it was just what was in my heart.   I had/have a strong need to submit.. to serve..and to belong to someone.
 
I am not sure exactly what has brought me to the point of being a switch.  I think it was a lot of experiences.. good and bad. 
 
This is something I am exploring a lot.. I may end up as a sub.. a slave.. or even a Domme.. I just don't know right now.  I still feel the great need to serve.. yet..this other part of me is rising up..it's a strange..yet exciting time for me.  I think the next few months (years) will be a huge time of discovery and learning for me.
 
~Andrea
 
 

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RE: In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 8:18:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sleazybutterfly
I think the next few months (years) will be a huge time of discovery and learning for me.


Petal, we never stop learning... not till the day they nail the lid on!


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RE: In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 8:28:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ArtimisBlack

We may not have known if we were Dominant, submissive, or switch but we all found out (or are in the process of doing so). Either way, I know it’s a learning process usually. That’s why the replies in thread on how to train an online slave surprised me a bit because for the most part people offered criticism rather then advice. Many of the replies asked why the OP considered himself a Dom. It got me wondering how we all started out, both Doms, switches, and subs. What made you consider yourself Dominant/submissive/switch? Which experiences taught you the most and helped you find your way?
 


For me, it began at a very early age.  I had images and dreams of dominance and submission even before puberty.  I can't say that these weren't prompted and/or intensified by adults who tried to curb my rebelliousness by using corporal punishement.  And I certainly didn't identify with being either a submissive or a Dominant during those early years, but these experiences certainly added to it.  However, I was more of a voyeur in my early youth, having been exposed to pornography depicting violence against women, which I knew was wrong.  I suppose that it was easier for me to justify these fantasies was to become a submissive.  In this way I could both absolve myself of the guilt and derive some level of satisfaction from taking part in BDSM activities.


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RE: In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 9:58:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ArtimisBlack

We may not have known if we were Dominant, submissive, or switch but we all found out (or are in the process of doing so). Either way, I know it’s a learning process usually. That’s why the replies in thread on how to train an online slave surprised me a bit because for the most part people offered criticism rather then advice. Many of the replies asked why the OP considered himself a Dom. It got me wondering how we all started out, both Doms, switches, and subs. What made you consider yourself Dominant/submissive/switch? Which experiences taught you the most and helped you find your way?
 

I made a choice not to go to that thread, and your post confirms my decision.  However it seems it sparked an interesting question in you, so perhaps it was not all bad.  :)

Growing up, I didn't know what I was, only that I felt shameful of my thoughts.  From my earliest memories, I had all these "weird" thoughts that I wasn't supposed to have.  They weren't normal.  So I didn't share them.  As a toddler I was punished for ...let's call it "self discovery" (lol I remember discovering an orgasm at a crazy-early age, although I didn't know that's what it was then, obviously).  Throughout my growing years - as early as elementary school - I had bondage and cage fantasies, or of being totally enslaved to someone.  I had no clue about D/s, M/s, or BDSM then.  I thought I was mentally ill (some would argue that I was/am).

In my adult-hood, I searched for something to fill this horrible void in me.  Along came the internet and with the internet came all the erotic stories I could want.  I went straight for the "girl gets tied up and used" type stories.  I thought something was wrong with me for enjoying them.  Then came the introduction of chat rooms.  I found yahoo's role playing rooms and had a field day.  I could - real or unreal - capture the attention of anyone claiming to be male, and do the cyber-sex thing - giving myself an orgasm to "real time interaction" rather than to just reading a story.  Cool!  Of course all the RP stuff I did were bondage and force type fantasies, and after I got off, and supposedly the other guy got off, and we went our merry ways...I was left sitting there feeling totally empty.  I wondered, what is WRONG with me??  I got off on making someone feel good.  I got off on feeling totally subservient to a stranger.  I had issues.

I was submissive in all other relationships with men - my bosses, my male friends, my husband at the time.  I was misguided a lot, as a result.  I felt lost in a very big world.  And then I happened upon a Bondage chat room.  My eyes lit up.  Here were all these people talking about all the things I was feeling inside - and they had names for these feelings.  Suddenly I was no longer the only person in the world to feel as I did.  It was normal for these women to feel compelled to submit.  I learned there were people who identified themselves as Dominants (yes, I later came to learn the "self proclaimed" flaw) and there were those who responded to them, called submissives, and slaves.  While I now see chat rooms as a lot of fantasy and little reality, at the time, I thought, "WOW!"  It was the beginning of my real journey of self discovery.

It was in this place I met (online) a dominant male who would be part of my journey for the next few years.  We never met in person, but spoke daily for great lengths.  He introduced me to a lot of my inner feelings.  He helped me through some major inhibitions.  It was through him and some other male dominants I had become friends with (and others that used me for their fantasies and left me hurt), which I realized I was submissive with an inner drive toward slavery.  A lot of things happened between that dominant and I which left us both quite pained, and the relationship ended.  I never touched his skin, but no one will ever convince me my emotions were not real.  After that, I met a local Dom, real time, who did not use me so much physically, but emotionally tortured me to the point I was convinced I was really not cut out to be slave or even a submissive, and would be hard pressed to believe I could be pleasing to anyone

And then a few days after I pried myself from that "relationship" (I had been berated for 30 days straight, and thought I deserved it so stayed to take it - plus, wasn't that what a submissive was supposed to do? To take an emotional beating if her Dom so chose?), Master found me by happenstance, and brought me to where I am today.  I had "warned" him to not bother with me, that I was not really submissive, that I could never please him.  I told him I was bitter and angry and would probably just frustrate him.  But he saw in me what I did not, and he pulled emotions out of me that had been long buried.  Slowly I came out of my cocoon, and I remember when I begged him to train me as his slave, I was trembling and crying, scared to death yet knowing this was my calling.  I was not looking for a rescuer, but he rescued me from myself anyway.

And now, I am enslaved to him.  I am living all those things I craved as a youngster, and more.  The "more" part is the emotional, mental, and intellectual connection that I never realized could exist in such a relationship.  My road, like many others in this "lifestyle," has been rocky, but I am at my pot of gold.  :)

Wow.  Didn't mean to write so much!  As my aunt once said, Everyone in my family will take 500 words to say what could be said in 20.  Apparently I inherited that gene. :)

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RE: In The Beginning….. - 7/16/2006 8:39:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ArtimisBlack

We may not have known if we were Dominant, submissive, or switch but we all found out (or are in the process of doing so).
 
Either way, I know it’s a learning process usually.
 
That’s why the replies in thread on how to train an online slave surprised me a bit because for the most part people offered criticism rather then advice. Many of the replies asked why the OP considered himself a Dom. It got me wondering how we all started out, both Doms, switches, and subs.
 
What made you consider yourself Dominant/submissive/switch?
 
Which experiences taught you the most and helped you find your way?
 


Hi Artimis... and all....

I think this is a really thought-provoking question, at least it was for me.


>>but we all found out (or are in the process of doing so).

I suspect deep and true self-awareness and self-expression
are rarer than pearls the size of baseballs, and more valuable too.

One of the big benefits of being a deviant, pervert, BSDM'er....
or living on the edges of society and experience
is just that..... sometimes you get dragged kicking and screaming
into some kind of understanding of your own inner nature.

I'd guess the self-understanding ratio on CM
is 10X higher than the average fan of Desperate Houswives.


>>Either way, I know it’s a learning process usually.

I've thought about this all my life.
Do we learn to be who we are.... can you learn to BE ?
Or, are we discovering it, uncovering it,
removing all the layers of varnish society pours on our personality....

For sure, learning happens ... but what's that got to do with your being,
that's whatIwannaknow.

My current best thought is a kind of a artsy-agnostic cop-out.

I think most of who we are
is hidden in what I call
"the dark matter of the soul".

Dark matter, is a real scientific concept,
and says that most of the huge forces that hurl
galaxies and solar systems at millions of miles per hour
are real, measurable.... and completely hidden and mysterious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter

I could bore you for months with all this dark matter of the soul crap.
But I think I heard someone cry... "mercy",
and that's a common safe-word in BDSM-land, so I'll stop. 
I feel mercifully terse tonight.


>>Which experiences taught you the most and helped you find your way?

Trying to deny myself,
trying to "fix" myself,
trying,
trying,
trying in vain to be normal.


DD, just one frisky old goat, lurching towards happiness.

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