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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

of course right wingers are innocent of any race issues.

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Ann Coulter Attacks Gov. Nikki Haley As "An Immigrant" Who "Does Not Understand America's History"
Fact: Governor Haley Was Born In South Carolina

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Fox's Ralph Peters: ISIS Is Trying To "Exactly What The American Left Is Trying To Do ... Destroy The Past"

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Radio Host Michael Berry On Confederate Flag Controversy: If SC Shooter Were Muslim Would We "Outlaw The Koran?"

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Right-Wing Media Respond By Lamenting The Flag's Removal

Fox's Guilfoyle: "Is The American Flag Next?" During the June 23 edition of Fox News' The Five, co-host Kimberly Guilfoyle responded to calls for the Confederate battle flag to be removed from South Carolina's Capitol grounds by asking whether the American flag would be next:

JUAN WILLIAMS: I would just say, quickly, look at the fact that it was put up 100 years after the Civil War. So it's not even people who are grieving the deaths of the soldiers, it's 100 years after where people who are seeking to defy Brown v. Board of Education, taking part in the massive resistance movement against integration, social integration, and political equality for blacks.

GUILFOYLE: Is the American flag next?

WILLIAMS: Oh, my God. I love the American flag! It symbolizes the country I love. Why would I --

GUILFOYLE: People can also try to suggest that this was -- symbolizes wars, oppression. I was having a thoughtful conversation the other night with Laura Ingraham and she was saying to me, you know, at one point is somebody going to say they're offended by this flag. We see people disrespect the American flag. [Fox News, The Five, 6/23/15]

Rush Limbaugh: Removing Confederate Flag Is About "Destroying The South." On the June 23 edition of his radio program, Rush Limbaugh claimed that liberals' true mission in removing the Confederate flag in South Carolina is "destroying the South as a political force." Limbaugh then predicted, "the next flag that will come under assault ... is the American flag":

LIMBAUGH: It's not going to stop with the Confederate flag, because it's not about the Confederate flag. It is about destroying the South as a political force. It's about isolating, targeting, and identifying the South as Dylann Roof.

[...]

The speed and rapidity with which the left is conducting this assault on all of these American traditions and institutions -- if you don't think the American flag is in their crosshairs down the road, you had better stop and reconsider. The American flag is what? It's the symbol of America. The left, what? Doesn't like this country very much and never has. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 6/23/15]

Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol: Liberals Are "Expunging History In A Frenzy Of Self-Righteousness." In a series of tweets on June 23, The Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol accused liberals of "expunging every trace of respect, recognition or acknowledgment of Americans who fought for the Confederacy."



[Twitter, 6/23/15, 6/23/15]

Bill O'Reilly: "Historical Context" Of Confederate Flag 'Represents Bravery.' Fox host Bill O'Reilly asserted that the Confederate flag "represents bravery" on the June 22 edition of his program telling Fox's Juan Williams that "it represents, to some, bravery in the Civil War because the Confederates fought hard" (emphasis added):

O'RILLY: You say the Confederate flag is a symbol of hate and you believe that.

JUAN WILLIAMS: That's the way I feel when I see it.

O'REILLY: Okay, okay. And absolutely 100 percent legitimate. For some other people who see it in a historical context --

WILLIAMS: What's the historical context?

O'REILLY: It represents bravery.

WILLIAMS: Oh get out of town.

O'REILLY: In war.

WILLIAMS: They put it up in anger when they were trying to mass resist the Civil Rights Movement in the 60's.

O'REILLY: You know as well as I do that it represents, to some, bravery in the Civil War because the Confederates fought hard.

[...]

But that's what it represents. You're right historically, but in their minds, that's what it represents. And in your mind it represents hate. So, and everybody should know what the two sides are believing. [Fox News, The O'Reilly Factor, 6/22/15]

Fox's Starnes: "The Cultural Cleansing Of The Southern States Begins." In a June 23 post on Fox Nation, Fox News Radio host Todd Starnes framed the South Carolina flag removal as "a full-fledged cultural cleansing of the Southern states":

A full-fledged cultural cleansing of the Southern states is underway as lawmakers debate whether to remove Confederate flags and rename schools and parks named after Confederate war heroes.

Republicans are leading the charge in South Carolina and Mississippi to remove the Confederate flag -- called a symbol of hate and racism.

Wal-Mart jumped on the band wagon, too - announcing they will remove all Confederate merchandise from its stores.

Has the Department of Homeland Security classified the Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy as right-wing hate groups, yet? [Fox Nation, 6/23/15]

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NRA News Regular: Charleston Shooting Victims' Relatives Showed "Serious Weakness" By Forgiving Gunman
Tony Katz: Killing Members Of Gunman's Family "Far More Decent" Than Offering Forgiveness

quote:

O'Reilly On Fox News Being Criticized By The Media On Race: "You Want A War, You Got A War"

Bill O'Reilly Promises To Call Out The Real Racists In America

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Fox's Erick Erickson Says Society's Acceptance of Transgender People Blinds It To "Evil" Of Charleston Killings

oh yes and now Im going to give you the links....WITH video and supporting links....media matters...
if you can debunk any of them
have at it.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

of course right wingers are innocent of any race issues.

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Ann Coulter Attacks Gov. Nikki Haley As "An Immigrant" Who "Does Not Understand America's History"
Fact: Governor Haley Was Born In South Carolina

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Fox's Ralph Peters: ISIS Is Trying To "Exactly What The American Left Is Trying To Do ... Destroy The Past"

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Radio Host Michael Berry On Confederate Flag Controversy: If SC Shooter Were Muslim Would We "Outlaw The Koran?"

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Right-Wing Media Respond By Lamenting The Flag's Removal

Fox's Guilfoyle: "Is The American Flag Next?" During the June 23 edition of Fox News' The Five, co-host Kimberly Guilfoyle responded to calls for the Confederate battle flag to be removed from South Carolina's Capitol grounds by asking whether the American flag would be next:

JUAN WILLIAMS: I would just say, quickly, look at the fact that it was put up 100 years after the Civil War. So it's not even people who are grieving the deaths of the soldiers, it's 100 years after where people who are seeking to defy Brown v. Board of Education, taking part in the massive resistance movement against integration, social integration, and political equality for blacks.

GUILFOYLE: Is the American flag next?

WILLIAMS: Oh, my God. I love the American flag! It symbolizes the country I love. Why would I --

GUILFOYLE: People can also try to suggest that this was -- symbolizes wars, oppression. I was having a thoughtful conversation the other night with Laura Ingraham and she was saying to me, you know, at one point is somebody going to say they're offended by this flag. We see people disrespect the American flag. [Fox News, The Five, 6/23/15]

Rush Limbaugh: Removing Confederate Flag Is About "Destroying The South." On the June 23 edition of his radio program, Rush Limbaugh claimed that liberals' true mission in removing the Confederate flag in South Carolina is "destroying the South as a political force." Limbaugh then predicted, "the next flag that will come under assault ... is the American flag":

LIMBAUGH: It's not going to stop with the Confederate flag, because it's not about the Confederate flag. It is about destroying the South as a political force. It's about isolating, targeting, and identifying the South as Dylann Roof.

[...]

The speed and rapidity with which the left is conducting this assault on all of these American traditions and institutions -- if you don't think the American flag is in their crosshairs down the road, you had better stop and reconsider. The American flag is what? It's the symbol of America. The left, what? Doesn't like this country very much and never has. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 6/23/15]

Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol: Liberals Are "Expunging History In A Frenzy Of Self-Righteousness." In a series of tweets on June 23, The Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol accused liberals of "expunging every trace of respect, recognition or acknowledgment of Americans who fought for the Confederacy."



[Twitter, 6/23/15, 6/23/15]

Bill O'Reilly: "Historical Context" Of Confederate Flag 'Represents Bravery.' Fox host Bill O'Reilly asserted that the Confederate flag "represents bravery" on the June 22 edition of his program telling Fox's Juan Williams that "it represents, to some, bravery in the Civil War because the Confederates fought hard" (emphasis added):

O'RILLY: You say the Confederate flag is a symbol of hate and you believe that.

JUAN WILLIAMS: That's the way I feel when I see it.

O'REILLY: Okay, okay. And absolutely 100 percent legitimate. For some other people who see it in a historical context --

WILLIAMS: What's the historical context?

O'REILLY: It represents bravery.

WILLIAMS: Oh get out of town.

O'REILLY: In war.

WILLIAMS: They put it up in anger when they were trying to mass resist the Civil Rights Movement in the 60's.

O'REILLY: You know as well as I do that it represents, to some, bravery in the Civil War because the Confederates fought hard.

[...]

But that's what it represents. You're right historically, but in their minds, that's what it represents. And in your mind it represents hate. So, and everybody should know what the two sides are believing. [Fox News, The O'Reilly Factor, 6/22/15]

Fox's Starnes: "The Cultural Cleansing Of The Southern States Begins." In a June 23 post on Fox Nation, Fox News Radio host Todd Starnes framed the South Carolina flag removal as "a full-fledged cultural cleansing of the Southern states":

A full-fledged cultural cleansing of the Southern states is underway as lawmakers debate whether to remove Confederate flags and rename schools and parks named after Confederate war heroes.

Republicans are leading the charge in South Carolina and Mississippi to remove the Confederate flag -- called a symbol of hate and racism.

Wal-Mart jumped on the band wagon, too - announcing they will remove all Confederate merchandise from its stores.

Has the Department of Homeland Security classified the Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy as right-wing hate groups, yet? [Fox Nation, 6/23/15]

quote:

NRA News Regular: Charleston Shooting Victims' Relatives Showed "Serious Weakness" By Forgiving Gunman
Tony Katz: Killing Members Of Gunman's Family "Far More Decent" Than Offering Forgiveness

quote:

O'Reilly On Fox News Being Criticized By The Media On Race: "You Want A War, You Got A War"

Bill O'Reilly Promises To Call Out The Real Racists In America

quote:


Fox's Erick Erickson Says Society's Acceptance of Transgender People Blinds It To "Evil" Of Charleston Killings

oh yes and now Im going to give you the links....WITH video and supporting links....media matters...
if you can debunk any of them
have at it.

Well, aren't you wonderfully full of Google searches. Playing tit for tat in order to derail the conversation.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

of course right wingers are innocent of any race issues.

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Ann Coulter Attacks Gov. Nikki Haley As "An Immigrant" Who "Does Not Understand America's History"
Fact: Governor Haley Was Born In South Carolina

quote:

Fox's Ralph Peters: ISIS Is Trying To "Exactly What The American Left Is Trying To Do ... Destroy The Past"

quote:

Radio Host Michael Berry On Confederate Flag Controversy: If SC Shooter Were Muslim Would We "Outlaw The Koran?"

quote:

Right-Wing Media Respond By Lamenting The Flag's Removal

Fox's Guilfoyle: "Is The American Flag Next?" During the June 23 edition of Fox News' The Five, co-host Kimberly Guilfoyle responded to calls for the Confederate battle flag to be removed from South Carolina's Capitol grounds by asking whether the American flag would be next:

JUAN WILLIAMS: I would just say, quickly, look at the fact that it was put up 100 years after the Civil War. So it's not even people who are grieving the deaths of the soldiers, it's 100 years after where people who are seeking to defy Brown v. Board of Education, taking part in the massive resistance movement against integration, social integration, and political equality for blacks.

GUILFOYLE: Is the American flag next?

WILLIAMS: Oh, my God. I love the American flag! It symbolizes the country I love. Why would I --

GUILFOYLE: People can also try to suggest that this was -- symbolizes wars, oppression. I was having a thoughtful conversation the other night with Laura Ingraham and she was saying to me, you know, at one point is somebody going to say they're offended by this flag. We see people disrespect the American flag. [Fox News, The Five, 6/23/15]

Rush Limbaugh: Removing Confederate Flag Is About "Destroying The South." On the June 23 edition of his radio program, Rush Limbaugh claimed that liberals' true mission in removing the Confederate flag in South Carolina is "destroying the South as a political force." Limbaugh then predicted, "the next flag that will come under assault ... is the American flag":

LIMBAUGH: It's not going to stop with the Confederate flag, because it's not about the Confederate flag. It is about destroying the South as a political force. It's about isolating, targeting, and identifying the South as Dylann Roof.

[...]

The speed and rapidity with which the left is conducting this assault on all of these American traditions and institutions -- if you don't think the American flag is in their crosshairs down the road, you had better stop and reconsider. The American flag is what? It's the symbol of America. The left, what? Doesn't like this country very much and never has. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 6/23/15]

Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol: Liberals Are "Expunging History In A Frenzy Of Self-Righteousness." In a series of tweets on June 23, The Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol accused liberals of "expunging every trace of respect, recognition or acknowledgment of Americans who fought for the Confederacy."



[Twitter, 6/23/15, 6/23/15]

Bill O'Reilly: "Historical Context" Of Confederate Flag 'Represents Bravery.' Fox host Bill O'Reilly asserted that the Confederate flag "represents bravery" on the June 22 edition of his program telling Fox's Juan Williams that "it represents, to some, bravery in the Civil War because the Confederates fought hard" (emphasis added):

O'RILLY: You say the Confederate flag is a symbol of hate and you believe that.

JUAN WILLIAMS: That's the way I feel when I see it.

O'REILLY: Okay, okay. And absolutely 100 percent legitimate. For some other people who see it in a historical context --

WILLIAMS: What's the historical context?

O'REILLY: It represents bravery.

WILLIAMS: Oh get out of town.

O'REILLY: In war.

WILLIAMS: They put it up in anger when they were trying to mass resist the Civil Rights Movement in the 60's.

O'REILLY: You know as well as I do that it represents, to some, bravery in the Civil War because the Confederates fought hard.

[...]

But that's what it represents. You're right historically, but in their minds, that's what it represents. And in your mind it represents hate. So, and everybody should know what the two sides are believing. [Fox News, The O'Reilly Factor, 6/22/15]

Fox's Starnes: "The Cultural Cleansing Of The Southern States Begins." In a June 23 post on Fox Nation, Fox News Radio host Todd Starnes framed the South Carolina flag removal as "a full-fledged cultural cleansing of the Southern states":

A full-fledged cultural cleansing of the Southern states is underway as lawmakers debate whether to remove Confederate flags and rename schools and parks named after Confederate war heroes.

Republicans are leading the charge in South Carolina and Mississippi to remove the Confederate flag -- called a symbol of hate and racism.

Wal-Mart jumped on the band wagon, too - announcing they will remove all Confederate merchandise from its stores.

Has the Department of Homeland Security classified the Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy as right-wing hate groups, yet? [Fox Nation, 6/23/15]

quote:

NRA News Regular: Charleston Shooting Victims' Relatives Showed "Serious Weakness" By Forgiving Gunman
Tony Katz: Killing Members Of Gunman's Family "Far More Decent" Than Offering Forgiveness

quote:

O'Reilly On Fox News Being Criticized By The Media On Race: "You Want A War, You Got A War"

Bill O'Reilly Promises To Call Out The Real Racists In America

quote:


Fox's Erick Erickson Says Society's Acceptance of Transgender People Blinds It To "Evil" Of Charleston Killings

oh yes and now Im going to give you the links....WITH video and supporting links....media matters...
if you can debunk any of them
have at it.

Well, aren't you wonderfully full of Google searches. Playing tit for tat in order to derail the conversation.

Has the Department of Homeland Security classified the Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy as right-wing hate groups, yet? [Fox Nation, 6/23/15]

No but I believe that the SPLC has.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Wow, my grandmother was also a member of the daughters of the revolution. I wonder if she'd be hate classified twice over. Frankly, I think she would have gotten a kick out of that.

let's see

A She is white = hate group
B She is southern = hate group
C She was a member of the SDC = hate group

Looks to me like she has ties to three hate groups, she must be on the terror watch list.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Plenty of guns in Somalia, Afghanistan, and IRAQ -- why not move there or hold those countries up as models of public safety.

Why choose three Islamic states? There are plenty of guns in Switzerland, as well.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Plenty of guns in Somalia, Afghanistan, and IRAQ -- why not move there or hold those countries up as models of public safety.

Why choose three Islamic states? There are plenty of guns in Switzerland, as well.

Yes, but the Swiss don't have generations of gun culture behind them, Sanity. They've never really drooled over guns, the 'pioneering spirit', 'pesky injuns' ... no John Wayne in decades of shitty cowboy films, no nutty 'reds under the bed' McCarthy era .... Most of all, no written Constitution that highlights guns and devotes deep and special thought on the matter ... they just don't have that gun culture the way the USA, and only the USA, on the entire planet does. Hell, my impression is that that they don't even like killing people all that much. They're don't execute people, for sure. Fucking libtards.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

She'd have laughed and then demanded all the neighborhood kids come in and learn Christmas carols while she played the piano.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Snip>
oh yes and now Im going to give you the links....WITH video and supporting links....media matters...
if you can debunk any of them
have at it.

Well, aren't you wonderfully full of Google searches. Playing tit for tat in order to derail the conversation.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

FR

The thrust of the response to this incident seems to be not another push for gun control but an outbreak of Tweaks non-leathal ethnic cleansing with the usual suspects trying to wipe the nation clean of anything that smacks of southern heritage.

Southern heritage can not be limited to a five year rebellion, nor the institution of slavery that the rebellion wanted to protect.

But we have many who are too narrow in their thinking to realize that.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Snip>
oh yes and now Im going to give you the links....WITH video and supporting links....media matters...
if you can debunk any of them
have at it.

Well, aren't you wonderfully full of Google searches. Playing tit for tat in order to derail the conversation.

SO you didnt read what I said, you assumed...wrongly.i used google, I didnt need to go that far.....they all came from one page...media matters. http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/06/23/is-the-american-flag-next-conservative-media-fr/204113

And you havent attempted to discuss or debunk any of them. But me bringing info to the thread is "tit for tat"... yeah Ill be sure to remember that....LMAO

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


Of course no one reads the stuff like that you post. You sound like it surprises you. Media Matters sounds about right for ya. And...Lucy, everyone knows you have no humor and never laugh your ass off. Why do you keep pretending you do?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


Of course no one reads the stuff like that you post. You sound like it surprises you. Media Matters sounds about right for ya. And...Lucy, everyone knows you have no humor and never laugh your ass off. Why do you keep pretending you do?

and you are making the topic about me again, how sweet.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

... no John Wayne in decades of shitty cowboy films

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

FR

The thrust of the response to this incident seems to be not another push for gun control but an outbreak of Tweaks non-leathal ethnic cleansing with the usual suspects trying to wipe the nation clean of anything that smacks of southern heritage.

Southern heritage can not be limited to a five year rebellion, nor the institution of slavery that the rebellion wanted to protect.

But we have many who are too narrow in their thinking to realize that.

The ones narrow in their thinking are the ones arguing to keep the flag flying.

But I think having churches segregated by choice is fairly narrow-minded as well.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

She'd have laughed and then demanded all the neighborhood kids come in and learn Christmas carols while she played the piano.

CHRISTMAS IS RELIGION AND OUTSIDE OF CHURCH THAT SHOULD BE FORBIDDEN!!!

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

... no John Wayne in decades of shitty cowboy films

Arm yerself, thems fightin words

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Coming to theatres this fall is Northmen: A viking saga, a Swiss-German action-adventure feature about Vikings lost in Scotland.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

FR

The thrust of the response to this incident seems to be not another push for gun control but an outbreak of Tweaks non-leathal ethnic cleansing with the usual suspects trying to wipe the nation clean of anything that smacks of southern heritage.

Southern heritage can not be limited to a five year rebellion, nor the institution of slavery that the rebellion wanted to protect.

But we have many who are too narrow in their thinking to realize that.

The ones narrow in their thinking are the ones arguing to keep the flag flying.

But I think having churches segregated by choice is fairly narrow-minded as well.

No, the narrow minded are those who, starting with the flag, are trying to purge American society of anything having to do with southern heritage.
For example a NYT movie critic has called for the banning of Gone With the Wind and there was a move to change the name of Ft Bragg GA. It was named after Col Bragg who later became Gen Bragg of the Confederate army.