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What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 8:23:11 AM

Supernudist

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What am I doing wrong? I'd like for someone to read my profile,including my journals,and give me advise. I'm looking for physically forced nude,domestic,slavery,beyond my control,and against my will,doing hard,hot,forced,manual labor,and all I get are Mistresses looking for sexual gratification. To me,that would come later (maybe), after I have been,totally,unconditionally,enslaved. Any,and all,replies will be welcomed,and studied. Thank you.

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 8:39:16 AM

LadyHugs

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Dear Supernudist, Ladies and Gentlemen;

You wrote;

quote:

ORIGINAL: Supernudist

What am I doing wrong? I'd like for someone to read my profile,including my journals,and give me advise. I'm looking for physically forced nude,domestic,slavery,beyond my control,and against my will,doing hard,hot,forced,manual labor,and all I get are Mistresses looking for sexual gratification. To me,that would come later (maybe), after I have been,totally,unconditionally,enslaved. Any,and all,replies will be welcomed,and studied. Thank you.

If you read what you just posted, your answers are right in there.

Here are the answers to your own questions:
You're looking for someone who will have you do something against your will, unconditionally enslaved, a nudist who wants to play at being forced being nude, complaining about Mistresses who want sexual gratification but, that big word "maybe" comes into it. Maybe cancels everything 'forced' and or 'unconditional.'

If you're seeking a role-play dominant-by all means clearly say so. And, I've never seen a unconditional or forced slavery, in the modern BDSM, D/s and or M/s circles.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 8:51:14 AM

maybemaybenot

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Well.. the list could be very long !
IMO , one reason is you will be a whole lot of work. You clearly state that you will need constant discipline. That's generally not attractive to the Dominant type personalities. They tend to prefer some one who wants to serve them with a smile and with an eager heart.
Why would any Domme want to have a sub/slave that is her enemy ? As you state you would prefer. She is going to put time and effort into you, and you want her to put time and effort into one who preceives the relationship as adversary. You also state you want this adversary relationship to be long term and for her pleasure. What pleasure will she have with her enemy constantly at her feet, never doing as she pleases, requiring discipline regularly to correct behavior. Hmmm,, not much of a motivator for her.

Lastly you have set up all the rules and regulations.. Call me crazy, but most Dom/me types I have met and know like to have a little input in that area.

mbmbn

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 8:53:59 AM

MsKatHouston

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I would suggest you come to terms that you do not want unconditional slavery. Your post and your profile very clearly state that you very much want conditional slavery. There is nothing wrong with that. But because you have very specific requirements, you narrow down your search to only those dominants who also want exactly that. You do not seem to have any room for compromise or a more full relationship.

If you really do want "unconditional" slavery, then you will need to be more open about your requirements. Anyone who came to me with the requirement that he be nude when doing the housework would not work for me. I decide what needs to be done and in what manner.

If everything you stated in your profile is how you want it, then leave it as it is. But be prepared to wait awhile before you find the one who will fit perfectly to your ideal.

(edited for typos)

< Message edited by MsKatHouston -- 7/16/2006 8:57:07 AM >

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 9:01:44 AM

crouchingtigress

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OK i have some thoughts, do with them as you will:

1 You kink is highly specialized.

2 Your profile is ok but i would not capitalize ANYONE ANYTHING, because it reads desperate.

3 Finding a bdsm partner is often a long journey, i have heard 5 years is the average, that was my experience

4 This is your first post, maybe hang out and post get to know folks in these forums....

5 Go to local events....right now you are advertising as a job description and maybe you wish to have that level of depersonalization in your kink, but even with the most hard core objectification there is a person underneath there, and that person is what many doms are looking to invite into their homes/lives ....

To be honest your profile reads very fantasy based, i read it and i think he has read too many novels and dismiss it...

Many doms have had painful or dreadful experience with folks that come from fantasy based motivations...they are exasperatingly difficult to work with because they are not looking for a real person, only an image, and they are notoriously hard to train because they have very specific ideas of what their submission should, and should not be regardless of the doms personal experience and desires (weird but true)

In my experience, older more mature doms (your demographic) have been through a number of these types of experiences and are not wanting to get hurt or fooled again. They have found, myself included, that is cheaper and less work to actually pay a landscaper to do the gardens.

< Message edited by crouchingtigress -- 7/16/2006 9:15:11 AM >

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 9:07:16 AM

crouchingtigress

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You make such an excelent and elequent point..."You also state you want this adversary relationship to be long term and for her pleasure. What pleasure will she have with her enemy constantly at her feet, never doing as she pleases, requiring discipline regularly to correct behavior"

quote:

ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

Well.. the list could be very long !
IMO , one reason is you will be a whole lot of work. You clearly state that you will need constant discipline. That's generally not attractive to the Dominant type personalities. They tend to prefer some one who wants to serve them with a smile and with an eager heart.
Why would any Domme want to have a sub/slave that is her enemy ? As you state you would prefer. She is going to put time and effort into you, and you want her to put time and effort into one who preceives the relationship as adversary. . Hmmm,, not much of a motivator for her.

Lastly you have set up all the rules and regulations.. Call me crazy, but most Dom/me types I have met and know like to have a little input in that area.

mbmbn

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 9:23:20 AM

BlkTallFullfig

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Supernudist
What am I doing wrong? I'd like for someone to read my profile,including my journals,and give me advise. I'm looking for physically forced nude,domestic,slavery,beyond my control,and against my will,doing hard,hot,forced,manual labor,and all I get are Mistresses looking for sexual gratification. To me,that would come later (maybe), after I have been,totally,unconditionally,enslaved. Any,and all,replies will be welcomed,and studied. Thank you.

Why did this just make me fall over laughing??? I think I need more sleep. M

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 9:55:28 AM

MysticFireTopaz

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quote:

ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot
IMO , one reason is you will be a whole lot of work. You clearly state that you will need constant discipline. That's generally not attractive to the Dominant type personalities. They tend to prefer some one who wants to serve them with a smile and with an eager heart.

That's a great insight and why I avoid submissives who state that they have to be "forced" into serving Me. When I have a choice between someone who will willingly serve with an eager heart, versus someone who will require being contstantly beaten into submission, it's a no-brainer to Me as to who I would choose. If serving Me would be so distasteful that a sub would require constant displine in order to do it, I ask Myself why is he bothering in the first place? Can't he find more pleasurable pursuits in life? I know it's a common male fantasy, but it does not tranlate well into reality.

While I do believe in corporal discipline, I would expect the occasions where this is required to be pretty infrequent. If a sub needed constant discipline, I would conclude that he is either dense, inattentive, or defiant. None of these qualities particularly appeal to Me.

Lady Topaz

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 10:11:52 AM

crouchingtigress

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this is sort of like a scab i cant help but pick....but also, i found this at the bottom of your profile

I'm getting tired of the type of people I've met on this site. Most,if not all,are either fakes, wanna-bees,or very desperate. Most women want to be trained,or are willing to change their lifestyle,to satisfy me. I DO NOT TRAIN DOMINATES. And,I am NOT interested in getting someone to change their personality,to satisfy me,and my interests.
I AM interested in physically forced,domestic, nude,slavery. I'm looking for someone, ANYONE,to inflict regular,brutal,and sadistic, punishment on me,my body,as well as my mind.
I am NOT looking for friendship,a love affair,or sexual gratification (for myself,anyway). At least,not for the first,few,months,or years. Actually,I'd prefer my Mistresses/Masters to be my enemy,and/or someone to "teach me a lesson",and/or make me wish I'd never accepted my role,as a slave.
ANYONE interested? ANYONE???

so, wait, you have actually found women who are willing to learn and grow to accommodate your very specialized kink and you turned them away? are you nuts?

beyond the fact that you are the most conditional unconditional slave i have ever met, beyond that fact your desire is to hate your slavery, and be a miserable recalcitrant bitch to your Steward through out your term of service....beyond the fact that you want to control all the sex and beyond the fact that you have insulted most folks here by saying that they are wanna bees and fakes....

i think you are very guilty about something....look, i am am not a shrink....but until you see some one and talk about it you are condemning your self to basically wasting the 30 or so good years you have left on this planet by living in misery and pain....

why would you do that?

< Message edited by crouchingtigress -- 7/16/2006 10:16:38 AM >

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 10:15:52 AM

Caretakr

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To the op.

Shrugs.......I see this on both sides.

What you are looking for is a fetish facillitator, a service top.

< Message edited by Caretakr -- 7/16/2006 10:16:22 AM >

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 11:02:07 AM

MistressTexas

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Perhaps what you seek is a ProDomme. One who is used to "fantasy fullfilment." From the laundry list of conditions and expectations in your profile, I fear that a Pro may be the only one willing to put up with it.

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 3:05:25 PM

WetHotGoddess

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All the advice you have been given is very good advice. But I will go a step farther and say you have no qualities that I would look for in a slave or even in a submissive. You want what YOU want, and it has nothing to do with pleasing anyone else.
Slaves don't state requirements. A slave looks beyond himself.
You, on the other hand, have some stupid fucking fantasy and you think some domme needs to fullfill it for you.
What is it again, that you are going to do for her, besides be a major pain in the ass?
I bet you don't even look good when you're naked!

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/16/2006 3:20:49 PM

janiceleeinsc

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I'm looking for physically forced nude,domestic,slavery,beyond my control,and against my will,doing hard,hot,forced,manual labor,and all I get are Mistresses looking for sexual gratification. To me,that would come later (maybe), after I have been,totally,unconditionally,enslaved

I would not respond to someone seeking slavery beyond their control that is telling me what to do.

The profile itself suggests sexual desires, and fantasy is something I do not work with anymore. It doesn't take someone long to figure that one out.

Respectfully,

Mistress_Jan

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/17/2006 6:16:03 AM

MisPandora

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Supernudist

What am I doing wrong? I'd like for someone to read my profile,including my journals,and give me advise. I'm looking for physically forced nude,domestic,slavery,beyond my control,and against my will,doing hard,hot,forced,manual labor,and all I get are Mistresses looking for sexual gratification. To me,that would come later (maybe), after I have been,totally,unconditionally,enslaved. Any,and all,replies will be welcomed,and studied. Thank you.

What are you doing wrong? You're a do-me guy who wants it your way. Try Burger King. Realize that submission and being in a relationship is a two way street, not just her barking orders at you, controlling you 24 hours of the day, and you just blindly acting as her dummy robot. Mixing some reality into your fantasy cup of tea is strongly advised.

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RE: What am I doing wrong? - 7/17/2006 6:18:28 AM

MisPandora

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quote:

ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress, taken from the OP's profile:
"I'm getting tired of the type of people I've met on this site. Most,if not all,are either fakes, wanna-bees,or very desperate. Most women want to be trained,or are willing to change their lifestyle,to satisfy me. I DO NOT TRAIN DOMINATES. And,I am NOT interested in getting someone to change their personality,to satisfy me,and my interests."

And perhaps taking a grammatical lesson might help this fellow too.

Dominate is the verb. It's what you do to someone.
Dominant is the noun. He want's a woman to be his dominant.

Oy.

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