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Parkinson's disease may begin in the gut - 6/23/2015 4:28:38 PM

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I read years ago that Parkinson's was found in clusters after Michael J. Fox was diagnosed and they said that there were others that were working on the same film that got it. Now they think it starts in the gut. If this is true, if there are clusters, I wonder if it could have been a virus. I also wonder if it could mean it might be prevented by looking for signs of trouble before Parkinson's develops.

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-06-parkinson-disease-gut.html

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RE: Parkinson's disease may begin in the gut - 6/25/2015 12:56:31 PM

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I read years ago that Parkinson's was found in clusters after Michael J. Fox was diagnosed and they said that there were others that were working on the same film that got it. Now they think it starts in the gut. If this is true, if there are clusters, I wonder if it could have been a virus. I also wonder if it could mean it might be prevented by looking for signs of trouble before Parkinson's develops.

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-06-parkinson-disease-gut.html

your article says that those that get parkinsons are constipated for years previously.. I do think a lot of medical problems start in the stomach due to eating too much processed food.. when people eat processed food they dont get anywhere near the amount of fiber they need to stimulate the intestines, etc and their stomach develops inflammation that creates a variety of medical problems.. I have experienced that myself.. i started getting severe back pain that crept up from my lower back to my neck, it was so painful i could not even sit for longer than 2 minutes and sleeping was impossible.. i thought it was a back problem so i kept going to my chiropractor without getting relief.. The pain was unbearable so i went to an acupuncturist and he told me the problem was my stomach (meaning my diet).. i thought he was crazy but went home and googled and sure enough he was right.. i immediately changed my diet eliminating all processed food, pasta, bread, etc and within a few days i was feeling less pain, two weeks of my new diet and i was cured, the back pain was gone.. So i do believe a bad diet is the cause of a lot of medical problems.. A lot of people think they "eat healthy" but imo they do not..

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART03198/Parkinsons-Disease.html

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02012/anti-inflammatory-diet

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RE: Parkinson's disease may begin in the gut - 6/30/2015 10:12:43 AM

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More information about the gut bateria-brain connection
was the subject of the ON Point radio program Monday.

http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/06/29/gut-bacteria-influences-mood

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http://www.npr.org/podcasts/510053/on-point-with-tom-ashbrook

Lots of interesting stuff in this area at this time; but responsible people,
as always in science, are preaching caution. Still, some fascinating possibilities.

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RE: Parkinson's disease may begin in the gut - 6/30/2015 3:06:07 PM

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So food, digestion and what's in the gut could become a mood altering experience? I could have some fun with this!

I love science.

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RE: Parkinson's disease may begin in the gut - 6/30/2015 3:48:23 PM

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Here is another reference from the NY Times.

Can the Bacteria in Your Gut Explain Your Mood?
The rich array of microbiota in our intestines can tell us more than you might think.

I am fond of science myself.

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RE: Parkinson's disease may begin in the gut - 7/2/2015 9:39:57 AM

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The gut is the centre of the immune system - often when you have an imbalance in the gut, your immune system does strange things, like attack parts of you that it shouldn't.

Like bits of your brain that might light up due to your vagus nerve?

Another possibility to look out for is boreliosis, aka lyme disease. Chronic lyme (ignore the CDC, every major country in the world recognises and treats chronic lyme except the US - chronic lyme *does* exist) has been called "The great imitator" because, depending upon which part of the brain it colonises when it passes the blood-brain barrier (making it immune to antibiotics, which can't cross the blood-brain barrier) it can mimmick the symptoms of parkinsons, multiple sclerosis, CJD, ALS, altzheimers and a host of other brain-centric diseases.

It's even believed to have mimmicked heart conditions by colonising the spinal column and causing timing issues with the heart!

Although back to the original subject, it's believed that, since the intestines are essentially the centre of your immune system, not looking after it can cause all kinds of problems. I believe the Germans are so caught up in this idea that they have entire clinics dedicated to restoring the natural balance of your intestines. Some even claim it has cancer-beating properties (as in, your immune system, when working 100%, should be attacking cancer cells?) but that seems a bit "fringe" science to me.

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RE: Parkinson's disease may begin in the gut - 7/5/2015 2:52:30 AM

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Its interesting about Lyme disease because I was admitted into hospital a couple of years ago after my doctor became concerned about various symptoms I was having. I had a multitude of tests that included eliminating Parkinson disease (my maternal grandfather had Parkinson) I'm not sure why I mentioned that I'd once been tested for Lyme disease. I was tested for it back in the summer of 2001 after a mysterious bulls eye rash appeared on my leg. The results had shown up negative, but this strange rash and crippling fatigue I'd had at the time had never been explained. I was re-tested under the supervision of a Lyme expert and it turned out I'd had a false negative back in 2001; I had been living with lyme bacterium in my blood stream for 12 years. Lyme disease had got into my nervous system and was starting to give me the same symptoms of early Parkinson Disease. Thanks to a hefty dose of intravenous antibiotics, I'm now Lyme free. I'm fairly certain that if I'd never mentioned Lyme, the doctors wouldn't of picked up on it.

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