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SadisticDomZ -> An Apprentice (7/1/2015 5:43:00 AM)

Any Masters want to take me under their wing, share their experience and slaves/submissives with me




disgaldrar -> RE: An Apprentice (7/1/2015 8:19:16 AM)

I can imagine that this would be something best done at any local munches that are going on; bringing the subject up at least. As much as helping someone new to the lifestyle is rarely a bad thing when it comes to helping someone not make what might be not-so obvious mistakes, sharing one's submissive/slave can and most likely will not happen unless you become exceptionally trusted by both the Dominant and their slaves in question. Even then, unlikely.




MsLadySue -> RE: An Apprentice (7/1/2015 9:14:20 AM)

Why do you need to apprentice with a Dominant? Don't you already know how to use a sub/slave sexually until you are satisfied?




mnottertail -> RE: An Apprentice (7/1/2015 9:30:36 AM)

Donald Trump is at some loose ends, as I understand it.




Arturas -> RE: An Apprentice (7/1/2015 10:09:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MsLadySue

Why do you need to apprentice with a Dominant? Don't you already know how to use a sub/slave sexually until you are satisfied?



One can always learn to do better, don't you agree?




artemiss -> RE: An Apprentice (7/1/2015 12:26:05 PM)

Many are willing to share their knowledge. But it may be a good idea to invest in your own "property". Kinda sounds like you are just asking them to allow you use of their things without having any commitment or obligation of your own.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: An Apprentice (7/1/2015 12:32:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SadisticDomZ

Any Masters want to take me under their wing, share their experience and slaves/submissives with me


=

Anybody want to take me under their wing, teach me to drive, and share their Rolls Royce/Lamborghini with me?



About the same chance of it happening as well.




PANKRATIO -> RE: An Apprentice (7/1/2015 3:55:01 PM)

I'd like to take the OP at his word, even if I think a few of them are just a touch naïve.

Yes, the likelihood, pointed out by goddesses of logic and female subs in the Ask a Master sub-forum is rather tiny that anyone is willing to share their slaves/submissives with someone else altruistically.

You're right, artemiss, OP ought to invest in his own. Probably not going to happen in the near near future, given that his profile is so poorly scribbled for an anglophone that one could perscribe it as birth control. When it comes to investment, as you call it, I'd like to look at it from another direction.

This man warrants the benefit of the doubt, as we all do, so let's consider that his concern for the welfare of his potential future submissive or slave women may be so great that he is willing to undertake anything to prepare himself for their eventual arrival into his life. This doesn't sound like such a bad thing.

There are men, in real life, who are perfectly willing to share their toys to mentor other men in their use, care and skill. I happen to be one of them. There are more than a few people who have learned a skill or an art from me, practicing at first with my equipment before taking it up on their own.

I'll venture a guess that the second half of the OP's request is a sign as sure as any that as a neophyte in the onlinest of terms, he's been rightly believing what collarspace users (among others) have been wrongly implying about a sense of community.

Why might that be? How could this person's expectations of digital fraternity be so at odds with what he received in return or even what exists on this site?

Whether I type them or someone else does, the disparity between Preaching to the Perverted's club scene and London's real life fetish clubs is a boring topic. So is the contrast between the abundance of slave-auction fiction and the paucity of online or real-life auctions, which apparently peaked with slavefarm.com ten years ago, and a certain "Amanda" who sold herself online in the nineties. Yes, someone could certainly be forgiven for thinking he's joining the "Largest BDSM community on the planet!"

Where is the sense of community? I find it unsurprising that it was Arturas, the fellow fellow I'd peg as gorean (at once the least accepted and least accepting sub-branch of this tree) who came closest to reaching out. So if you're looking for community, advice, mentorship, fraternity, etc, it seems goreans score better than average, even if too, *[see what I did there?;)]the gorean community is also rather less than the sum of its parts. Maybe it's a man thing.

So, SadisticDomZ, if you'd like an apprenticeship, advice or any such thing, I don't think you'll find it here. The best advice for you to follow is that of your first respondent in this an your other threads, your fellow brit Disgaldrar. I generally wouldn't advise taking dating advice from women, but she's right on the money.




peppermint -> RE: An Apprentice (7/1/2015 5:35:28 PM)

Sometimes a Dominant will mentor a newbie. Gary has done that several times. First we both have to like you. I have been a stunt dummie for someone new to using a flogger. However, that does not give the newbie the right to touch me in a sexual manner or to expect any sex with me. Going to munches and events is the way to find that person who is willing to be your mentor. So go to munch. Make friends. Smile and be friendly. Once you get to know the other people you might find someone you respect and can then ask if that person would consider being your mentor. If you ask if they are willing to share their submissives and slaves with you, well, they'll probably think you are just a horny guy looking to get off.




Lucylastic -> RE: An Apprentice (7/1/2015 7:13:27 PM)

TO the OP
I was mentored by several people back in the late 90s early 2000s, techniques, tips, hands on practise, I had a lot of fun and learned a lot.
SO it can happen ...id check out some munchies, be a person first, a play party is a good idea, as you can watch players that interest you , you can be social ask questions, dont rush into it, it wont happen over night. its a process. I wouldnt expect any sexual contact with the persons sub, but for learning the ropes....watch, listen, ask, learn:) oh and please dont fall for that old line"my way is the only way"
I wish you luck




DarkSteven -> RE: An Apprentice (7/1/2015 11:32:26 PM)

Excuse me? I've never met you or interacted with you, and you're asking to borrow my sub?!?!?!




daniel1973 -> RE: An Apprentice (7/2/2015 1:33:46 AM)

How about the other way round? Ask a subbie whether they would like to spar a few rounds with you, master permitting and present.

If my master wanted to "share" me with someone (it has never happened but I've thought about it) I would still obey but I'd have serious issues with it, so in my case you'd be almost guaranteed to be landed with an unhappy and reluctant submissive.




ResidentSadist -> RE: An Apprentice (7/2/2015 6:02:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


quote:

ORIGINAL: SadisticDomZ

Any Masters want to take me under their wing, share their experience and slaves/submissives with me


=

Anybody want to take me under their wing, teach me to drive, and share their Rolls Royce/Lamborghini with me?



About the same chance of it happening as well.

I want to be an apprentice shopper. Anybody want to take me under their wing, teach me to spend and share their cash with me?




SeekingTrinity -> RE: An Apprentice (7/2/2015 5:56:08 PM)

~FRing it~

Would I mentor someone? Yes, I would.

Would I let you get your hands on my submissive? No, I wouldn't.

These two things are mutually exclusive. One does not guarantee access to the other. Perhaps looking to be mentored without looking to also get your paws on their sub/slave might go over better.




DesFIP -> RE: An Apprentice (7/2/2015 6:04:06 PM)

The Man's taught people bondage techniques. Is he going to let them use me? Hell no. He makes them practice on chair legs and their own legs to become proficient.




MariaB -> RE: An Apprentice (7/3/2015 3:41:27 AM)

I have mentored a few dominant women and I myself was mentored over a long period of time by a woman I highly respect. Did I allow those who I mentored to have physical and verbal interactions with my submissive? hell yes but only under my strict guidance and there was absolutely no sex. Was I allowed to get physical and verbal when I was an apprentice? absolutely but again, only under her strict guidance. I didn't just fist some guys ass without guidance, I didn't suspend a trussed up sub without guidance and I didn't learn to use a bull whip without guidance...the list goes on. Sorry folks but I didn't come out ready made [8|]

Your name says you are a sadist and depending how far a sadist wants to go, he/she needs to know what they are doing. A mentor would be good but finding a mentor could be problematic. If I were you I would seek this from a reputable pro Dom/Domme because it will be money well invested. Also look out for workshops and get yourself to munches and clubs so that you can meet and observe like minded folk.




thursdays -> RE: An Apprentice (7/3/2015 4:14:33 AM)

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Lucylastic -> RE: An Apprentice (7/4/2015 4:52:54 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MariaB

I have mentored a few dominant women and I myself was mentored over a long period of time by a woman I highly respect. Did I allow those who I mentored to have physical and verbal interactions with my submissive? hell yes but only under my strict guidance and there was absolutely no sex. Was I allowed to get physical and verbal when I was an apprentice? absolutely but again, only under her strict guidance. I didn't just fist some guys ass without guidance, I didn't suspend a trussed up sub without guidance and I didn't learn to use a bull whip without guidance...the list goes on. Sorry folks but I didn't come out ready made [8|]

Your name says you are a sadist and depending how far a sadist wants to go, he/she needs to know what they are doing. A mentor would be good but finding a mentor could be problematic. If I were you I would seek this from a reputable pro Dom/Domme because it will be money well invested. Also look out for workshops and get yourself to munches and clubs so that you can meet and observe like minded folk.

What this lady said.





smartsub10 -> RE: An Apprentice (7/5/2015 12:45:16 PM)

Hmmm. "Profile not found".

Maybe....just maybe he really didn't want the excellent advice he got here from seasoned lifestylers.

I think what he wanted was someone to give him a home address with a cheerful "C'mon over and watch me play with my subs, then you can have sex with them".

Maybe.




Arturas -> RE: An Apprentice (7/5/2015 3:41:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

The Man's taught people bondage techniques. Is he going to let them use me? Hell no. He makes them practice on chair legs and their own legs to become proficient.


Yes. So true. I myself practiced on pillows with my flogger before taking aim on a real subject. I think the technique is explained in "The Loving Dominant". One can actually learn their early skillsets with good books on the subjects.




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