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rand, A Secret Secessionist? - 7/4/2015 11:05:41 AM

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Cliven Bundy says Rand Paul promised to make Nevada a ‘sovereign state’ if he’s elected president"

cliven "let me tell you about the negro" cliven has been having meetings with rand paul......

I wonder WTF it is they`re discussing.....?

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RE: rand, A Secret Secessionist? - 7/4/2015 4:33:34 PM

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according to the article you cited, they had one meeting (not meetings) together, and it didn't last all that long.

"wtf" they were discussing is apparently referenced in the article--thoughts concerning ownership, rights, and state land vs federal land.

and this is apparently paul's view:

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Paul said during the campaign event that he believed all land issues – including endangered species protections – should be handled by the states and not the federal government.

and any talk about "sovereignty" is in the context of the above.

good luck trying to spin that into state secession from the union.

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RE: rand, A Secret Secessionist? - 7/4/2015 4:56:51 PM

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Your politics is a *lot* more entertaining than ours. :-(

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RE: rand, A Secret Secessionist? - 7/5/2015 6:34:49 AM

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Kentucky is a sovereign state.
Virginia is a commonwealth.
Most of the state governments that originated with the old "territorial system" are "sovereign states" as in now self administered instead of run by a federally appointed governor.

The fine print is in how the state government is organized and has nothing to do with secession. It is like whether your city uses a City Manager, a City Council, or a straight Mayoral form of government. Your local polity gets to decide.

If Clive Bundy is involved; it probably has more to getting BLM land into state government control.

Straight scoop:
The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) administers nearly 48 million acres of public land in Nevada. BLM public lands make up about 67 percent of Nevada's land base.
http://www.blm.gov/nv/st/en.html

I can actually see an issue when the majority of the land in a province is out of the state tax base with all the usage fees going to the federal coffer. And that lands used by a particular family for generations under lease cannot be owned and any improvements can be confiscated by a bureaucratic whim. Losing improvements and use of hundreds of acres of cattle land is certainly a fiscal blow to a rancher. Look at how incensed a suburban home owner gets when a utilities easement takes away his garden shed.

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