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ORIGINAL: BamaD

A Black man in Ohio shoved a white woman into traffic, then pulled a knife on her saying that he hated white people. He was charged with Ethnic intimidation. Is that Ohioan for a hate crime?

see here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/08/rodney-arnold-i-hate-white-people_n_7536534.html

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

is there any controversy here?

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ORIGINAL: Zonie63

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

A Black man in Ohio shoved a white woman into traffic, then pulled a knife on her saying that he hated white people. He was charged with Ethnic intimidation. Is that Ohioan for a hate crime?

see here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/08/rodney-arnold-i-hate-white-people_n_7536534.html

It said that he was charged with "assault, aggravated menacing, and ethnic intimidation." It didn't really say anything about a hate crime either way. Is it possible that they may charge him with a hate crime at some point in the future, or have they already ruled out the possibility? They don't really give much information or detail as to what actually happened. This article was from a month ago, but I can't find any follow up articles.

Some of these news organizations really stink. These articles just give limited information and no indication that the reporter even bothered to ask for more information. There may be specific legal reasons why this wouldn't qualify as a hate crime under the statutes, but unless the reporter asked the police about it or what their reasoning, then that information won't be in the article, leaving the readers in the dark.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

A Black man in Ohio shoved a white woman into traffic, then pulled a knife on her saying that he hated white people. He was charged with Ethnic intimidation. Is that Ohioan for a hate crime?

see here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/08/rodney-arnold-i-hate-white-people_n_7536534.html

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Trying to get clarification, is this a hate crime in Ohio, or in spite of the facts of the case did they come up with a lesser charge? Hopefully someone from that area will help.

Subject to correction, I think there first has to be an underlying offense. Then, a finding that it was a "hate crime" based on the offender's motivation can invoke a sentence enhancement.

K.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

A Black man in Ohio shoved a white woman into traffic, then pulled a knife on her saying that he hated white people. He was charged with Ethnic intimidation. Is that Ohioan for a hate crime?

see here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/08/rodney-arnold-i-hate-white-people_n_7536534.html

This whole hate crime thing is really strange.

The main thing is it's an idiot on the loose and the rest of it is secondary at best.

It doesn't speak for wider society, just as that other idiot in wherever it was, think it was South Carolina; doesn't speak for wider society.

Sometimes, there are too many people wanting to see something more than what is going on in front of their faces, which is it's just another monumental fuckin' idiot who needs locking up.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

A Black man in Ohio shoved a white woman into traffic, then pulled a knife on her saying that he hated white people. He was charged with Ethnic intimidation. Is that Ohioan for a hate crime?

see here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/08/rodney-arnold-i-hate-white-people_n_7536534.html

This whole hate crime thing is really strange.

The main thing is it's an idiot on the loose and the rest of it is secondary at best.

It doesn't speak for wider society, just as that other idiot in wherever it was, think it was South Carolina; doesn't speak for wider society.

Sometimes, there are too many people wanting to see something more than what is going on in front of their faces, which is it's just another monumental fuckin' idiot who needs locking up.

Personally I think the concept of hate crimes is stupid. But if they are going to have them they need to be enforced regardless of the race of the offender.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

https://www.ohiobar.org/ForPublic/Resources/LawYouCanUse/Pages/Ohio-Law-Allows-Increased-Penalties-for-Hate-Crimes.aspx

Q: Sometimes I hear a crime described as a “hate crime.” What, exactly, is a hate crime?
A: Ohio law broadly defines hate crimes as criminal acts motivated by prejudice or intolerance and directed toward a member of a gender, racial, religious or social group. Ohio law does not, however, consider hate crimes as stand-alone offenses. Rather, they are considered as factors in determining penalties or sentences for other crimes.

The only Ohio statute that speaks directly to hate crimes is the “ethnic intimidation” provision under section 2927.12 of the Ohio Revised Code, which prohibits commission of the misdemeanor crimes of aggravated menacing, menacing, criminal damaging, criminal mischief, and some types of telephone harassment, when done “by reason of” the race, color, religion or national origin of another person or group of persons.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

A Black man in Ohio shoved a white woman into traffic, then pulled a knife on her saying that he hated white people. He was charged with Ethnic intimidation. Is that Ohioan for a hate crime?

see here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/08/rodney-arnold-i-hate-white-people_n_7536534.html

This whole hate crime thing is really strange.

The main thing is it's an idiot on the loose and the rest of it is secondary at best.

It doesn't speak for wider society, just as that other idiot in wherever it was, think it was South Carolina; doesn't speak for wider society.

Sometimes, there are too many people wanting to see something more than what is going on in front of their faces, which is it's just another monumental fuckin' idiot who needs locking up.

Personally I think the concept of hate crimes is stupid. But if they are going to have them they need to be enforced regardless of the race of the offender.

I agree on both counts, BamaD.

Anyone running into the road with a knife and threatening people is clearly not a full shillin', and is crying out for some sort of correctional behaviour.

His target is pretty much irrelevant in this.

Same for that other bloke. Killed a lot of people. Lock him up for life. And the rest of it isn't really of much consequence. What use does it do to call it a 'hate crime' when this bloke is pretty much out on his own in terms of his behaviour. I'd stand corrected but I'd imagine it's not often you get someone doing that so why make it somehow a society issue when it's clearly not?

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ORIGINAL: JVoV
https://www.ohiobar.org/ForPublic/Resources/LawYouCanUse/Pages/Ohio-Law-Allows-Increased-Penalties-for-Hate-Crimes.aspx
Q: Sometimes I hear a crime described as a “hate crime.” What, exactly, is a hate crime?
A: Ohio law broadly defines hate crimes as criminal acts motivated by prejudice or intolerance and directed toward a member of a gender, racial, religious or social group. Ohio law does not, however, consider hate crimes as stand-alone offenses. Rather, they are considered as factors in determining penalties or sentences for other crimes.
The only Ohio statute that speaks directly to hate crimes is the “ethnic intimidation” provision under section 2927.12 of the Ohio Revised Code, which prohibits commission of the misdemeanor crimes of aggravated menacing, menacing, criminal damaging, criminal mischief, and some types of telephone harassment, when done “by reason of” the race, color, religion or national origin of another person or group of persons.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

The right would like to cherry pick the news for black on white crimes , as part of their overall narrative.

Just go to breightbart.com for a complete illustration of this. And they are the tame ones compared to other right-wing sites.

On sites like Stormfront.....it`s a buffet of black on white crime horror.....and bigoted.

The goal is to trick white people into thinking blacks are dangerous and deadly.

The only reason I posted about another crime was to debunk the lie that only/mostly blacks are killing whites.....which is untrue and is racist.

To Mod III, I have no intention of going off topic or distracting from the OP.

Quite the opposite.