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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/10/2015 8:21:38 PM   
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She is smart. She actually UNDERSTANDS the issues. And she actually DOES something about them.

She is working with McCain and our very own Maria Cantwell (who I have met) to bring back Glass-Steagall.

I said in another thread that SHE is the one to fight the corporatist corruption. Not the Tea Partiers. They frankly don't understand the issues.

http://my.elizabethwarren.com/page/s/glass-steagall

You forgot that she is a liar and fraud and almost as much of a socialist as Sanders.



You are certainly entitled to that opinion. As long as she keeps doing the RIGHT thing (see above), she has my vote.

Go Elizabeth!

It is not an opinion, it is fact. She is in no way Native American.
If she can't even tell the truth about her heritage what makes you think she is telling the truth about anything else?



And you have proof of her ancestry? Please show me her complete lineage, dating back 150 years. Further, you have proof that she didn't believe she was of Native American ancestry??? Please cite that as well.

Not that I care one way or the other. I just smile at these "facts" that you claim.

As for what makes me think she is telling the truth about anything else. I look at what she has done. Everything she has done has been to fight corporatist corruption, and nothing to enrich herself. Show me another politician like that.



We have been talking about how repealing Glass-Steagall was a major cause of the financial meltdown. Please cite a Tea Party politician that has publicaly supported bringing it back.

She is anti business I consider that bad.

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/10/2015 8:27:42 PM   
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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/10/2015 8:27:45 PM   
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She is smart. She actually UNDERSTANDS the issues. And she actually DOES something about them.

She is working with McCain and our very own Maria Cantwell (who I have met) to bring back Glass-Steagall.

I said in another thread that SHE is the one to fight the corporatist corruption. Not the Tea Partiers. They frankly don't understand the issues.

http://my.elizabethwarren.com/page/s/glass-steagall

You forgot that she is a liar and fraud and almost as much of a socialist as Sanders.



You are certainly entitled to that opinion. As long as she keeps doing the RIGHT thing (see above), she has my vote.

Go Elizabeth!

It is not an opinion, it is fact. She is in no way Native American.
If she can't even tell the truth about her heritage what makes you think she is telling the truth about anything else?



And you have proof of her ancestry? Please show me her complete lineage, dating back 150 years. Further, you have proof that she didn't believe she was of Native American ancestry??? Please cite that as well.

Not that I care one way or the other. I just smile at these "facts" that you claim.

As for what makes me think she is telling the truth about anything else. I look at what she has done. Everything she has done has been to fight corporatist corruption, and nothing to enrich herself. Show me another politician like that.



We have been talking about how repealing Glass-Steagall was a major cause of the financial meltdown. Please cite a Tea Party politician that has publicaly supported bringing it back.

She is anti business I consider that bad.



Nonsense. She is anti-corporatism. (Something Tea Partiers claim to be but aren't) Not anti-business.

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/10/2015 8:38:22 PM   
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She is smart. She actually UNDERSTANDS the issues. And she actually DOES something about them.

She is working with McCain and our very own Maria Cantwell (who I have met) to bring back Glass-Steagall.

I said in another thread that SHE is the one to fight the corporatist corruption. Not the Tea Partiers. They frankly don't understand the issues.

http://my.elizabethwarren.com/page/s/glass-steagall

You forgot that she is a liar and fraud and almost as much of a socialist as Sanders.



You are certainly entitled to that opinion. As long as she keeps doing the RIGHT thing (see above), she has my vote.

Go Elizabeth!

It is not an opinion, it is fact. She is in no way Native American.
If she can't even tell the truth about her heritage what makes you think she is telling the truth about anything else?



And you have proof of her ancestry? Please show me her complete lineage, dating back 150 years. Further, you have proof that she didn't believe she was of Native American ancestry??? Please cite that as well.

Not that I care one way or the other. I just smile at these "facts" that you claim.

As for what makes me think she is telling the truth about anything else. I look at what she has done. Everything she has done has been to fight corporatist corruption, and nothing to enrich herself. Show me another politician like that.



We have been talking about how repealing Glass-Steagall was a major cause of the financial meltdown. Please cite a Tea Party politician that has publicaly supported bringing it back.

She is anti business I consider that bad.



Nonsense. She is anti-corporatism. (Something Tea Partiers claim to be but aren't) Not anti-business.

She treats profit and evil as synonyms.
She jumped on Obama's stupid you didn't build that rant and seems to think that success flows from the government. She is a socialist and that is the last think we need.

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 12:10:18 PM   
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She is smart. She actually UNDERSTANDS the issues. And she actually DOES something about them.

She is working with McCain and our very own Maria Cantwell (who I have met) to bring back Glass-Steagall.

I said in another thread that SHE is the one to fight the corporatist corruption. Not the Tea Partiers. They frankly don't understand the issues.

http://my.elizabethwarren.com/page/s/glass-steagall

You forgot that she is a liar and fraud and almost as much of a socialist as Sanders.



You are certainly entitled to that opinion. As long as she keeps doing the RIGHT thing (see above), she has my vote.

Go Elizabeth!

No, he's not entitled to that opinion, because it is not a matter of opinion.

If he wants to present factual evidence and discuss matters of fact, grand.

In the meantime, Warren rocks. So does Sanders, incidentally.

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 12:38:22 PM   
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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 12:39:35 PM   
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She is smart. She actually UNDERSTANDS the issues. And she actually DOES something about them.

She is working with McCain and our very own Maria Cantwell (who I have met) to bring back Glass-Steagall.

I said in another thread that SHE is the one to fight the corporatist corruption. Not the Tea Partiers. They frankly don't understand the issues.

http://my.elizabethwarren.com/page/s/glass-steagall

You forgot that she is a liar and fraud and almost as much of a socialist as Sanders.



You are certainly entitled to that opinion. As long as she keeps doing the RIGHT thing (see above), she has my vote.

Go Elizabeth!

No, he's not entitled to that opinion, because it is not a matter of opinion.

If he wants to present factual evidence and discuss matters of fact, grand.

In the meantime, Warren rocks. So does Sanders, incidentally.


She did represent to several Universities that she was Native American when a trace of lineage going back to the Trail of Tears reveals that she is not. She first claimed that she believed her parents when they said she was Native American. Then she said she did it to meet other Native Americans.

Bottom line: It was a lie. Many years ago. Move on. If BamaD wants to malign her entire character and political life by calling her a liar and a fraud, he is certainly entitled to that opinion.

However, he does not hold the politicians that he supports to the same standard.

I could point out dozens of lies from every single Republican candidate (except maybe Trump) for President. Most of them would be far more serious than fraudulently checking a "Native American" box.


She has conducted herself honorably as Special Adviser to the Treasury Secretary, and as a US Senator from Massachusetts.

She rocks/

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 1:03:05 PM   
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But but......who cares ? SHE ROCKS !!!!! ๐ŸŽธ๐ŸŽบ๐ŸŽน๐ŸŽง๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽท๐ŸŽป LMAO

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 1:07:23 PM   
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But but......who cares ? SHE ROCKS !!!!! ๐ŸŽธ๐ŸŽบ๐ŸŽน๐ŸŽง๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽท๐ŸŽป LMAO



Exactly! Even with this blatant lie, she has 10x the integrity of anyone running for President (including Hilary, and every Republican)

As long she keeps doing the right thing, (which is true of VERY few in the Senate)

You are spot on!

Who cares?


She Rocks!!!!

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 1:22:10 PM   
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I could point out dozens of lies from every single Republican candidate (except maybe Trump) for President. Most of them would be far more serious than fraudulently checking a "Native American" box.


please...

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 1:56:01 PM   
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She did represent to several Universities that she was Native American when a trace of lineage going back to the Trail of Tears reveals that she is not. She first claimed that she believed her parents when they said she was Native American. Then she said she did it to meet other Native Americans.

Bottom line: It was a lie. Many years ago. Move on. If BamaD wants to malign her entire character and political life by calling her a liar and a fraud, he is certainly entitled to that opinion.

However, he does not hold the politicians that he supports to the same standard.

I could point out dozens of lies from every single Republican candidate (except maybe Trump) for President. Most of them would be far more serious than fraudulently checking a "Native American" box.


She has conducted herself honorably as Special Adviser to the Treasury Secretary, and as a US Senator from Massachusetts.

She rocks/



She is dumber than a box of rocks

Seriously, find someone who isnt a fraud artist to hold up as your shining example

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 2:06:30 PM   
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No, he's not entitled to that opinion, because it is not a matter of opinion.

If he wants to present factual evidence and discuss matters of fact, grand.

In the meantime, Warren rocks. So does Sanders, incidentally.


Sanders, from what I have heard of him, is at least real. He isnt ashamed of being called a socialist, as most "liberals" are (which is a bit refreshing, even though I strongly disagree with him).



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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 2:25:09 PM   
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She is smart. She actually UNDERSTANDS the issues. And she actually DOES something about them.

She is working with McCain and our very own Maria Cantwell (who I have met) to bring back Glass-Steagall.

I said in another thread that SHE is the one to fight the corporatist corruption. Not the Tea Partiers. They frankly don't understand the issues.

http://my.elizabethwarren.com/page/s/glass-steagall

You forgot that she is a liar and fraud and almost as much of a socialist as Sanders.



You are certainly entitled to that opinion. As long as she keeps doing the RIGHT thing (see above), she has my vote.

Go Elizabeth!

No, he's not entitled to that opinion, because it is not a matter of opinion.

If he wants to present factual evidence and discuss matters of fact, grand.

In the meantime, Warren rocks. So does Sanders, incidentally.


She did represent to several Universities that she was Native American when a trace of lineage going back to the Trail of Tears reveals that she is not. She first claimed that she believed her parents when they said she was Native American. Then she said she did it to meet other Native Americans.

Bottom line: It was a lie. Many years ago. Move on. If BamaD wants to malign her entire character and political life by calling her a liar and a fraud, he is certainly entitled to that opinion.

However, he does not hold the politicians that he supports to the same standard.

I could point out dozens of lies from every single Republican candidate (except maybe Trump) for President. Most of them would be far more serious than fraudulently checking a "Native American" box.


She has conducted herself honorably as Special Adviser to the Treasury Secretary, and as a US Senator from Massachusetts.

She rocks/


A lie is a lie. Virtually every "lie" you point out is just that you disagree, nothing as outrageous as this. Up until the free trade agreement she simply stood at the left end of the party line, that isn't honorable service, that is a political hack.

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 2:38:08 PM   
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fake lineage and socialist tendencies aside for a moment, mj, could you elaborate for a bit on the corporate corruption you mentioned in your very first post?

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 4:11:32 PM   
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fake lineage and socialist tendencies aside for a moment, mj, could you elaborate for a bit on the corporate corruption you mentioned in your very first post?



Here are her proposals:


Hold financial institutions and individuals accountable for cheating customers
Close the auto loan loophole and extend CFPB oversight to auto dealers
Stop financial fraud recidivism by preventing any institution from entering into a non-prosecution agreement or deferred prosecution agreement if they are already operating under such an agreement
Deter future financial fraud by imposing a mandatory minimum monetary penalty at least equal to the profits generated by the illegal conduct and strengthening judicial review of deferred prosecution and non-prosecution agreements
Strengthen enforcement by requiring the Fed's Board of Governors to vote on all major supervisory and regulatory matters, and giving each Governor his or her own staff
Stop financial institutions from passing risk on to taxpayers
Cap the size of financial institutions as originally proposed by Senators Brown and Kaufman
Reinstate the barrier between commercial banking and investment banking as proposed in the 21th Century Glass-Steagall Act
Improve market discipline by restricting the Fed's emergency lending authority
Change tax policies that encourage excessive risk-taking and financial instability
Close the bonus loophole that allows financial institutions to write off billions in executive bonuses each year
Limit highly leveraged financial institutions from fully deducting their interest payments
Institute a targeted financial transactions tax
Create simple, structural rules for regulating the shadow banking sector

She is working on Glass-Steagall now.

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 4:17:33 PM   
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Actually, it should read:

An Indian, an African, and a Hispanic walk into a bar...

Just Jokin'
It's just two liberal white women and a moron.

http://time.com/3772081/jeb-bush-hispanic/

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 4:37:27 PM   
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I could point out dozens of lies from every single Republican candidate (except maybe Trump) for President. Most of them would be far more serious than fraudulently checking a "Native American" box.


please...


I could pick Scott Walker for example:

"As President, Barack Obama has not gone to the Texas-Mexico border." - Lie
"I unsealed my records at Marquette University" - Lie
"The next state budget will begin with a surplus of over half a billion dollars -- $535 million to be exact." - Lie. They are in a huge deficit
"Mary Burke "wasted 12.5 million dollars on a vacant lot" in a move that "could cost taxpayers nearly $25 million." -Lie
A poll taken "a few months ago" found "70 percent approval or higher" for the Act 10 collective bargaining law. - Lie. The poll was 2 years old, and not even relevant

Hmmm... Let's see... If I lived in Wisconsin, and Elizabeth Warren was running against Scott Walker for Governor of Wisconsin. WHo would I vote for? The candidate who lied about how people felt about his failed policies, and lied about the budget? OR. The woman who wants to restore Glass-Stegall, is opposing TPP, and lied about being a Native American.

I'll take the Faux Cherokee ANY day.

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 4:45:06 PM   
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with all due but respect, I asked for "the dozens for each candidate" not just scott walker as an example. persnickety of me yes, but...

and since those things you posted about scott walker aren't commonly known things, like the sun is bigger than the earth, they really all need references, as do the refutations too.


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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 4:49:14 PM   
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fake lineage and socialist tendencies aside for a moment, mj, could you elaborate for a bit on the corporate corruption you mentioned in your very first post?



Here are her proposals:


Hold financial institutions and individuals accountable for cheating customers
Close the auto loan loophole and extend CFPB oversight to auto dealers
Stop financial fraud recidivism by preventing any institution from entering into a non-prosecution agreement or deferred prosecution agreement if they are already operating under such an agreement
Deter future financial fraud by imposing a mandatory minimum monetary penalty at least equal to the profits generated by the illegal conduct and strengthening judicial review of deferred prosecution and non-prosecution agreements
Strengthen enforcement by requiring the Fed's Board of Governors to vote on all major supervisory and regulatory matters, and giving each Governor his or her own staff
Stop financial institutions from passing risk on to taxpayers
Cap the size of financial institutions as originally proposed by Senators Brown and Kaufman
Reinstate the barrier between commercial banking and investment banking as proposed in the 21th Century Glass-Steagall Act
Improve market discipline by restricting the Fed's emergency lending authority
Change tax policies that encourage excessive risk-taking and financial instability
Close the bonus loophole that allows financial institutions to write off billions in executive bonuses each year
Limit highly leveraged financial institutions from fully deducting their interest payments
Institute a targeted financial transactions tax
Create simple, structural rules for regulating the shadow banking sector

She is working on Glass-Steagall now.


okay, but, im not sure this an actual answer to my question. what are corporations presently doing, that is "corrupt" such that she is resonating so strongly with you in that regard? some of the answer to that might actually be hidden in what you've written above, but im looking and hoping for something more direct and specific---some intimate and actual connection between the corruption and her positions/propositions.

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Rocks - 7/11/2015 4:54:10 PM   
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