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ORIGINAL: BamaD
I don't need to add much at this point.
Next the jury contemplates death penalty.

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The question was whether he was sane or not. The Prosecution argued that his high level of scheming, preparation, and planning demonstrated that he knew what he was doing and was of a sound, deliberate mind.
From my reading, Holmes was ONE COLD DUDE. He's a very scary, mass murderer. He remains 100% indifferent to what he did and he ruined many lives on a bender. Luckily his gun jammed.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
I don't need to add much at this point.
Next the jury contemplates death penalty.

Interesting how the "insanity" plea was defeated. It wasn't that he didn't have a mental illness, but that he wasn't insane. That is, he knew what he was doing, and he knew it was wrong.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
The question was whether he was sane or not. The Prosecution argued that his high level of scheming, preparation, and planning demonstrated that he knew what he was doing and was of a sound, deliberate mind.
From my reading, Holmes was ONE COLD DUDE. He's a very scary, mass murderer. He remains 100% indifferent to what he did and he ruined many lives on a bender. Luckily his gun jammed.

Agreed.

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ORIGINAL: joether
we are perfectly 'happy' to know we are just days if not weeks from....ANOTHER....mass shooting.

I realize you don't know it, but you're only speaking for yourself.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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we assume only nut-cakes go on mass shootings

Actually, only nut-cakes try to make everything a gun thread.

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ORIGINAL: joether

Imagine if this nation had a tough stance on gun ownership. From sale to point of use and all things in between. This guy would not have been about to acquire the gun. Which would therefore prevent him from doing as much damage. All those who lost their lives, would be around today. This guy, might eventually have done wrong to someone, but on a small scale (nor injured or killed). Picked up by the police and jailed. Or gotten the help he needed.

BUT....

Our society is one that allows a greater freedom to obtaining and using firearms, than mental/emotional health centers, doctors, and therapists. That we are perfectly 'happy' to know we are just days if not weeks from....ANOTHER....mass shooting. That we go through a period of faking tears and shit, then pound our chest and say "thank God for the 2nd amendment!". That placing more guns in the open will solve the problems rather than heighten them. That we assume only nut-cakes go on mass shootings, and ignore the many each day that die by those 'honest and law abiding' citizens. Particularly in road rage moments....

And we want to say this guy is psychotic, insane and/or cold?

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

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ORIGINAL: joether

Imagine if this nation had a tough stance on gun ownership. From sale to point of use and all things in between. This guy would not have been about to acquire the gun. Which would therefore prevent him from doing as much damage. All those who lost their lives, would be around today. This guy, might eventually have done wrong to someone, but on a small scale (nor injured or killed). Picked up by the police and jailed. Or gotten the help he needed.

BUT....

Our society is one that allows a greater freedom to obtaining and using firearms, than mental/emotional health centers, doctors, and therapists. That we are perfectly 'happy' to know we are just days if not weeks from....ANOTHER....mass shooting. That we go through a period of faking tears and shit, then pound our chest and say "thank God for the 2nd amendment!". That placing more guns in the open will solve the problems rather than heighten them. That we assume only nut-cakes go on mass shootings, and ignore the many each day that die by those 'honest and law abiding' citizens. Particularly in road rage moments....

And we want to say this guy is psychotic, insane and/or cold?

Or, he would have built a bomb and taken out the whole building. Bombs are easier to make than guns.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I don't think we need to make this a gun thread to be able to look at if & how additional safety precautions are being taken at movie theaters, or anywhere else people congregate for fun.

Our local theater has had an off duty police officer working Thursday openings and all weekend long since this happened. They bring in an additional officer or two for movies that are supposed to be really big, or that may be sensitive/problematic.

A simple solution to ward off evil, without a lot of fuss, but it deserves recognition.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

So don't take the bait. Holmes has severe mental health issues and sought treatment before the shooting.

Even the staunchest gun fanatic would agree that this man had no business having access to a firearm, even if he did have the right to own them.

The psychiatrists dropped the ball on this one.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I know it is tough for some family members to take but to me there is no doubt..he is nuts... and life is more appropriate than the death penalty. If he did this for profit or revenge for instance it would be different.

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