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CreativeDominant -> Its About Time... (7/17/2015 6:01:32 AM)

Feds going door-to-door to seize illegal immigrants’ Obama amnesty approvals...

Goosed into action by an angry federal judge, federal immigration authorities will go door-to-door demanding illegal immigrants return the three-year amnesty approvals the Obama administration issued to them in defiance of a court order...

...The move comes as Homeland Security officials, fed up with slow-walking by illegal immigrants, are finally playing hardball after months of less forceful measures.

They’re scrambling to meet an end-of-month deadline set by Judge Andrew S. Hanen for recapturing thousands of three-year amnesties the department issued even after the court had entered an injunction halting the new amnesty program...

...In a new fact sheet, USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) raised the number of erroneous “Employment Authorization Documents,” or EADs, it approved from about 2,500 to 2,600 — the third time it’s boosted that estimate.

“USCIS is carefully tracking the number of returns of these invalid EADs and continues to take steps to collect the remaining cards,” the agency said.

The amnesty was supposed to be the crowning achievement in President Obama’s immigration policy. Instead, it’s been a big headache, exposing bureaucratic bungling and getting the president and his top aides ensnared in a complex court case that’s not gone his way.

Mr. Obama had been trying to expand his 2012 amnesty, which granted two-year tentative legal status and work permits to so-called Dreamers. Under his new plan, the amnesty would last for three years and would apply to millions of illegal immigrant parents...

...But Judge Hanen, in a case brought by Texas and 25 other states, ruled that Mr. Obama likely broke the law in forming his amnesty. The judge issued an injunction halting it on Feb. 16, and thought he’d nipped the entire program.

Several weeks later, however, administration lawyers admitted they’d been approving applications beginning in November, and that more than 100,000 Dreamers had been granted three-year status. Worse yet, the administration has twice come back to Judge Hanen and reported that thousands more approvals were sent even after the Feb. 16 injunction — a clear violation of the court order...

...The government fully appreciates the urgency of the situation and is proceeding with expedited remediation,” the administration’s lawyers promised Judge Hanen.

The three-year permits have already been canceled in the government’s own computer systems, and have been changed to two-year authorizations, the lawyers said.

But Judge Hanen seemed miffed that the government has not yet collected all of the erroneous amnesties, saying he detected a “cavalier attitude” from the government about its bungle.

“The government has conceded that it has directly violated this court’s order in its May 7, 2015 advisory, yet, as of today, two months have passed since the advisory and it has not remediated its own violative behavior,” the judge wrote. “That is unacceptable and, as far as the Government’s attorneys are concerned, completely unprofessional.”

For the whole story, read here:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/15/illegal-immigrants-obama-amnesty-approvals-to-be-s/?page=2




KenDckey -> RE: Its About Time... (7/17/2015 9:11:54 AM)

Don't forget to take the illegals with you when you get the cards.




mnottertail -> RE: Its About Time... (7/17/2015 9:20:02 AM)

From Sun Myung Moons newspaper and a Texas Judge, well you cant get any more knowledgeable than that.

Its much hysteria of the common kind.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Its About Time... (7/17/2015 9:22:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

From Sun Myung Moons newspaper and a Texas Judge, well you cant get any more knowledgeable than that.

Its much hysteria of the common kind.

I don't see any hysteria. But you do...is it because it's a newspaper you don't agree with? Or because some judge had the balls to call this administration on their arrogance?




mnottertail -> RE: Its About Time... (7/17/2015 10:04:23 AM)

Simply because it is slobbering hallucination. It is very unlikely the law was broken in forming his amnesty, and so on and so forth. It has no credible citations, it is rather prima facie imbecilic in nature, and so on. Nothing credible or real there.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Its About Time... (7/17/2015 10:58:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Simply because it is slobbering hallucination. It is very unlikely the law was broken in forming his amnesty, and so on and so forth. It has no credible citations, it is rather prima facie imbecilic in nature, and so on. Nothing credible or real there.
And yet, oddly enough, the Bamster administration agreed with the judge to comply with his "hallucinations"...no arguments made that he was wrong, no objections to their ordered compliance




KenDckey -> RE: Its About Time... (7/17/2015 11:17:04 AM)

I think that the only "amnesty" option available to Obama is to simply collect all 11M names, and pardon them one at a time. Happy signing amnesty paperwork. Full time work for lawyers. LOL




mnottertail -> RE: Its About Time... (7/17/2015 11:53:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Simply because it is slobbering hallucination. It is very unlikely the law was broken in forming his amnesty, and so on and so forth. It has no credible citations, it is rather prima facie imbecilic in nature, and so on. Nothing credible or real there.
And yet, oddly enough, the Bamster administration agreed with the judge to comply with his "hallucinations"...no arguments made that he was wrong, no objections to their ordered compliance




Maybe you should pick up a basic civics book. Then maybe check out an American Government and the History of America (also basic edition) the court held..........you do what the court holds (if in jurisdiction), you disagree, you go to the appellate court from there.....and so on to the US supreme court. Believe me when I tell you, just because you don't hear of lower court rulings where there is no split, doesn't mean that they didnt occur, and you dont always get fast tracked to the Supreme Court or magically argue any originating cases there.

So, hallucination.

The Bamster Administration has not agreed anywhere that is cite-able, but are complying (if you read the article, albeit cavalierly with the order) So, given that most of what you are arguing is not quite the case..........

So, hallucination.

You know Obamacare has been repealed around 55 times, right? Why is it the law of the land? (think followthru, and time running from past to present, and not the other way).

One thing happens, then another. Ask Einstein.




bounty44 -> RE: Its About Time... (7/17/2015 12:01:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Simply because it is slobbering hallucination. It is very unlikely the law was broken in forming his amnesty, and so on and so forth. It has no credible citations, it is rather prima facie imbecilic in nature, and so on. Nothing credible or real there.
And yet, oddly enough, the Bamster administration agreed with the judge to comply with his "hallucinations"...no arguments made that he was wrong, no objections to their ordered compliance



do you know cd, even apart from what you added (which should be incredibly embarrassing to the person you sent it to), given a choice between a judge understanding the law and whackos whose retorts are almost exclusively vulgar rants and who don't read well or think clearly understanding the law, I lean towards the guy with the law degree.




mnottertail -> RE: Its About Time... (7/17/2015 12:17:57 PM)

That would be Obama? He has a law degree. But you know what? People who quote Sun Mung Moon, and think that is a credible source are people I and other intelligent people laugh at. There are people out here, who have nothing but ignorant conspiratorial rants, and who bring up guys like old Goldman's book who even The American Conservative has panned as asswipe, are not any the better for not knowing common language. Pick up a book spelled dictionary, and find that vulgar means common, nothing else. Unfortunately, there are some brain damaged people who run stupid slogans and jingoes here and fancy themselves 'conservatives'. They do rant. The other fellow actually is speaking factual reality.





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