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Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/22/2016 11:24:02 PM)

Interview with Robert Gates, Obama's former Secretary:



HH: One of your colleagues, Mike Morell, said on this program, or actually agreed with my assertion that almost certainly, Russians, Chinese and Iranians had compromised the home brew server of the former Secretary of State. He agreed with that. Do you agree with his assessment of my assessment?

RG: Well, given the fact that the Pentagon acknowledges that they get attacked about 100,000 times a day, I think the odds are pretty high.


Speaking as someone that documented 13 security weaknesses in Hillary's server 2 years ago ) - passwords transmitted in PLAIN TEXT for crying out loud. No Security certificate - using an old version of windows UNPATCHED which left default Guest account enabled - this machine would have fallen to a dictionary hack in less than 3 seconds.

More or less, this server was set up with NO security, with default settings out of the box. I saw no firewall, whatsoever, although I"m told they had one.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/25/2016 8:50:34 AM)

http://samuel-warde.com/2015/10/cia-trey-gowdy-altered-documents-to-frame-hillary-clinton/

Oh, no........the effete eastern intellectuals that Spiro Agnew warned us about are about to be probed, but the nutsucker Gowdy was angling for that.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/25/2016 9:24:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

http://samuel-warde.com/2015/10/cia-trey-gowdy-altered-documents-to-frame-hillary-clinton/

Oh, no........the effete eastern intellectuals that Spiro Agnew warned us about are about to be probed, but the nutsucker Gowdy was angling for that.


Gawdy is a politician. As such, his actions have nothing to do with the investigation by the FBI and the IG's into Hillary's violations of the law.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/25/2016 9:47:16 AM)

Oh, and run that by me again? Hillary is not a politician?

I thought it was different than that somehow. So, have you heard any more inside dope from your buddies the Ass Guzzler, and the Feebleminded Blogging Imbeciles that are quitting?





Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/25/2016 10:23:46 AM)

Ok, I'll run it by you again.

Gawdy is not related to the question of whether the FBI will make a case for prosecution of clinton. Nor is he relevant to the question of whether or not the DOJ will prosecute.

No; but press reports currently suggest that the DOJ is considering prosecuting Petraeus and Paglianu. Which if true raises the spectre that clinton will be charged. My buddy says the decisions been made; as I said - I'm skeptical. Obama doesn't make any decision swiftly.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/25/2016 11:36:29 AM)

Aint happening, and your buddy the Ass Gargler aint nobody in the know.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/25/2016 11:53:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Aint happening, and your buddy the Ass Gargler aint nobody in the know.


Bitter & factless, and incapable of swaying public opinion. But keep up your diatribes - makes the right look better all the time.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/25/2016 12:21:33 PM)

as you are a bitter, hateful, imbecilic, hysterical, pants shitting, cockgargling factless nutsucker. Incapable of having an opinion, and incapable of holding an opinion, let alone have anyone with any intellect give your shitbreathing an honest consideration.




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/25/2016 3:57:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Aint happening, and your buddy the Ass Gargler aint nobody in the know.


Bitter & factless, and incapable of swaying public opinion. But keep up your diatribes - makes the right look better all the time.


personally I think if he had any sense of intellectual integrity, he'd be ashamed of his posts...




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/25/2016 4:01:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Aint happening, and your buddy the Ass Gargler aint nobody in the know.


Bitter & factless, and incapable of swaying public opinion. But keep up your diatribes - makes the right look better all the time.


personally I think if he had any sense of intellectual integrity, he'd be ashamed of his posts...


Its pretty much like the personality profiles and sociology studies show. Leftists want to smash the current power structures. Why respect their free speech or other rights when you want/need to shatter the status quo.

Other cites show conservatives are more polite.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/26/2016 8:17:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Aint happening, and your buddy the Ass Gargler aint nobody in the know.


Bitter & factless, and incapable of swaying public opinion. But keep up your diatribes - makes the right look better all the time.


personally I think if he had any sense of intellectual integrity, he'd be ashamed of his posts...


Its pretty much like the personality profiles and sociology studies show. Leftists want to smash the current power structures. Why respect their free speech or other rights when you want/need to shatter the status quo.

Other cites show conservatives are more polite.




Well, nutsuckers are not at all polite (and they are not conservatives) they are also stupid, there is a reason that people want to smash current power structures, because they are not in the best interests of America. There is no respect for propaganda, and for nutsuckers.

Now, you two cockgarglers are here disrespecting my free speech. Isnt that just like you toiletlicking catamites?




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/28/2016 2:16:11 AM)

"Hillary Clinton’s Email Scandal Appears Gravely Criminal"

(again, one can hope)

the short of it, if you don't want to read it all, or as a teaser is, the author contends Hillary purposely did what she knew to be illegal.

quote:

From the start, since we first learned about the home-brew email system then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton set up for conducting her government business, I’ve argued that she very likely committed felony violations of federal law. Yet it appears I underestimated the gravity of her misconduct -- ironically, by giving her the benefit of the doubt on a significant aspect of the scheme...

[S]ince we’re dealing with Clintonian parsing here, we must consider the distinction between classified documents and classified information -- the latter being what is laid out in the former. It is not enough for a government official with a top-secret clearance to refrain from storing classified documents on private e-mail; the official is also forbidden to discuss the information contained in those documents. The fact that Mrs. Clinton says she did not store classified documents on her private server, which is very likely true, does not discount the distinct possibility that she discussed classified matters in private e-mails...

In sum, knowing how physically difficult it is to move classified documents from the secured communications systems to the non-secured ones, I figured Mrs. Clinton’s claim that she had never done that was “very likely true.” Instead, I reasoned that her main violation would be privately communicating the substance of the information contained in classified documents, not transmitting the documents themselves.

While that would still be a felony, it was one she hoped to obscure and, if called on it, to dismiss as unintentional sloppiness by a busy government official, not willful flouting of the law.

My bad: The Clintons have made careers of defying our assumptions about how low they can go. I should have reminded myself that anything was possible.

Now, Paul Sperry reports that the FBI is probing indications that Mrs. Clinton did precisely what I assumed, because of the time and purposeful effort involved, she wouldn’t have done.

As I noted in my National Review weekend column, we now know that highly classified information from the secure systems ended up on Clinton’s private, unsecured (and relatively easy to hack) system. That, however, is not the half of it. Sperry reports that the actual documents themselves appear to have ended up in Clinton’s unsecured system -- but carefully shorn of their classified markings.

Quoting a veteran Diplomatic Security Service special agent named Raymond Fournier, Sperry elaborates:

[I]t’s clear from some of the classified emails made public that someone on Clinton’s staff essentially “cut and pasted” content from classified cables into the messages sent to her. The classified markings are gone, but the content is classified at the highest levels -- and so sensitive in nature that “it would have been obvious to Clinton.” Most likely the information was, in turn, e-mailed to her via NIPRNet.

To work around the closed, classified systems, which are accessible only by secure desktop workstations whose hard drives must be removed and stored overnight in a safe, Clinton’s staff would have simply retyped classified information from the systems into the non-classified system or taken a screen shot of the classified document, Fournier said. “Either way, it’s totally illegal.”

Sperry believes the FBI is focusing on three top Clinton aides at the State Department -- chief-of-staff Cheryl Mills and deputies Huma Abedin and Jake Sullivan -- as the potential culprits who carried out Clinton’s suspected scheme to defeat classified information protections.

Note the evolution of Mrs. Clinton’s talking points. Remember, her initial claim was that there was no classified information stored or transmitted on her private system. When that became untenable -- i.e., the moment the emails she chose to retain (as opposed to the 30,000-plus she destroyed) started becoming public -- Clinton morphed it into an insistence that nothing “marked classified” had been transmitted or stored...

I made the apparent mistake of giving her the benefit of the doubt: I thought she was guilty of felony mishandling of classified information, but I assumed (wrongly, it seems) that she was being forced by her reckless disregard for the rules to retreat to what she hoped would be a more plausible defense.

Now, it appears there was nothing reckless about it.

Mind you, even the reckless mishandling of classified information is a serious crime. But all indications are that Mrs. Clinton was not grossly negligent. This was a thought-out, quite intentional violation of law.


https://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2016/01/25/hillary-clintons-email-scandal-appears-gravely-criminal/




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/28/2016 6:28:14 AM)

Duh.

Face it - no one buys a separate domain; sets up a server at the clinton foundation; then when information breaks moves it to a campaign booster; sets up internet backup, sets up separate firewalls because it is easy. Clinton being a smart cookie knew here documents would be FOIA'd and took steps to prevent it.




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/28/2016 7:37:00 AM)

i agree; its not just that though...

here's the abbreviated but key element from the longer version:

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Sperry reports that the actual documents themselves appear to have ended up in Clinton’s unsecured system -- but carefully shorn of their classified markings.

[I]t’s clear from some of the classified emails made public that someone on Clinton’s staff essentially “cut and pasted” content from classified cables into the messages sent to her. The classified markings are gone, but the content is classified at the highest levels -- and so sensitive in nature that “it would have been obvious to Clinton.” Most likely the information was, in turn, e-mailed to her via NIPRNet.

To work around the closed, classified systems, which are accessible only by secure desktop workstations whose hard drives must be removed and stored overnight in a safe, Clinton’s staff would have simply retyped classified information from the systems into the non-classified system or taken a screen shot of the classified document, Fournier said. “Either way, it’s totally illegal.”


so hilllary was able to say "no classified documents" by virtue of the copy/paste and retyping process that nevertheless still contained the classified information contained within the documents.

and the "marked" classified canard she kept spouting was of course also nonsense, given the above.






Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/28/2016 8:07:47 AM)

But bounty, I've been saying that for months - repeated in post after post here.

this is why two of Clinton's aides have pleaded the fifth most notably her former chief of staff Cheryl mills. As I said before, the state house email system has built in security to prevent you from sending to an unsecure email. So the only way to send the information is to cut and paste it.

Each email is punishable by multiple years in prison - and even before the deleted emails we have more than 1300 violations.




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/28/2016 8:22:04 AM)

ah---well, lets hope its that I just missed it then by not seeing it, as opposed to missing it by reading and not remembering it, or even worse, reading and not understanding it and then posting the same thing as if it were brand new!

although, why I just gave Thompson and vile critter parts some "ammunition" there is beyond me...

to revisit something else from a little bit ago:

"FBI 'ready to indict' Hillary Clinton over private email use, Tom DeLay says: 'She’s gonna have to face these charges'"

quote:

The FBI is "ready to indict" Hillary Clinton for her handling of classified information on a private email server during her time as Secretary of State, former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said.

"I have friends that are in the FBI, and they tell me they're ready to indict, they're ready to recommend an indictment," DeLay said during an interview for Newsmax TV's "Steve Malzberg Show." "And they also say that if the attorney general does not indict, they're going public. So one way or another, either she's gonna be indicted, and that process begins, or we try her in the public eye with her campaign. One way or another, she's gonna have to face these charges."

Despite the Texas Republican's assertions, the FBI itself cannot present an indictment on its own — a federal grand jury would be needed to bring charges against Clinton...

"The media's not gonna be able to ignore this when you got FBI agents and others out there, talking about what they got," DeLay added.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fbi-ready-indict-hillary-clinton-tom-delay-article-1.2509659





Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/28/2016 8:35:44 AM)

expanding on my last post..

Additionally to that, those 1300+ violations are repeated 3x more, for at least 5200 violations, and she is personally responsible.

Per the national review:
quote:


Clinton “knowingly removed such documents or materials.” t she actually committed this crime on a significant scale three separate times: First, by setting up her e-mail system to route messages to and through her unsecured server, then by moving the server to Platte River Networks, a private company, in June of 2013, and then by transferring the server’s contents to her private lawyers in 2014.


Want proof FBI people willing to resign?

quote:


Not many people remember that Comey almost resigned a high-profile law-enforcement job once before, upset because he thought White House politics were overruling the law. Back in 2004, Comey was Attorney General John Ashcroft’s top deputy. The Justice Department determined that the Bush administration’s domestic-surveillance program, run by the National Security Agency, was illegal. Ashcroft was hospitalized at the time with a pancreatic ailment, and his authority had been transferred to Comey during the hospitalization. Then–White House counsel Alberto R. Gonzales and President Bush’s chief of staff, Andrew H. Card Jr., went to the hospital to persuade Ashcroft to re-authorize the program. Comey and then–FBI director Robert Mueller raced to the hospital to lobby Ashcroft against signing the authorization papers. Ultimately, Bush agreed with the Justice Department’s assessment and scrapped the program. Comey later told Congress that he, Ashcroft, Mueller, and their aides had prepared a mass resignation in case the White House ignored or defied their legal assessment. In short, Comey’s been willing to defy a White House before, as Obama acknowledged in announcing his nomination to head the FBI: To know Jim Comey is also to know his fierce independence and his deep integrity. Like Bob [Mueller], he’s that rarity in Washington sometimes — he doesn’t care about politics; he only cares about getting the job done. At key moments, when it’s mattered most, he joined Bob in standing up for what he believed was right. He was prepared to give up a job he loved rather than be part of something he felt was fundamentally wrong.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430343/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-fbi-director-james-comey-resign-protest


The interesting question.

Clinton moved the server from the Clinton foundation to avoid implicating the foundation. But lets think about this a minute.
Criminally transmitted emails were sent to the clinton foundation. Why? Considering the quid pro quo corruption case in Haiti - at what point does the FBI subpoena the clinton foundation.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/28/2016 8:51:38 AM)

LOL.

lets think about this. The might of the federal government, and no charges? Its like Benghazi all over again. We will all be dead before something occurs. Nothing but innuendo and impugnation.





Lucylastic -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/28/2016 9:18:40 AM)

benghazi, hilaries emails, planned parenthood, they arent backing the right geegees are they
not to forget repealing the ACA.
Incompetence at its finest.

But they cling to every RW spin and wont discuss what is REALLY going on in their own side





mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (1/28/2016 10:05:41 AM)

Wonder if the FBI will almost resign over the incompetence and imbecility of the nutsuckers? One almost did it once before, almost.

Did a bunch resign when they found out their lab was putting out fake results? Almost I bet.





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